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Grasshopper
04-10-2007, 06:17 AM
Hey pardners, we are being a thorn in the BATFE's side. Lookie at what these a$$*oles are saying about us silly little firearms owners. This is good stuff!

April 9th, 2007

Howdy Partners,

Whenever they're confronted with the gun violence problem, the NRA's answer is usually "enforcement." Unless, that is, the criminals facing enforcement are their own gun dealers.


The NRA talks a good game with law enforcement (at least, to the media-- behind officers' backs at their conventions, the ATF becomes a group of "jackbooted thugs"). They claim to support police officers in their efforts to stop violent crime. They claim they want to support the ATF in their efforts to get firearms off of the streets.

But in their actions, the NRA's stance couldn't be more different. They routinely gut the funding and abilities of groups like the ATF. When they aren't fighting in Congress to give our law enforcement less and less funding every year, they're filing suit against them in the courts, claiming "infringement" at gun shows and upon gun dealers.

One gun dealer today claimed the ATF is being much too harsh in his home state of Idaho-- he says they're shutting him down for the smallest of clerical errors, and he hints that the ATF is almost singlehandedly responsible for a nearly 55% drop in the amount of firearms dealers in that state.

As we said, he couldn't be more wrong. Because the NRA has been doing such a thorough job putting the ATF out of commission, it's apparent that authorities aren't doing enough to crack down on these gun dealers-- they say they can only visit individual dealers once every 20 years. It took them five years to shut down Red's, and as we reported a few weeks ago, even then Red's is still legally allowed to sell all their current stock.

Did you catch that? Even when the ATF can fight through the red tape the NRA is strangling them with, and even when they're allowed to muster the strength necessary to shut down a dealer who clearly is violating the regulations, they still cannot keep him from selling off his firearms. The NRA has hamstrung our law enforcement so much so that even when they know where the criminals are and what they've done, they are powerless to stop them from continuing to sell firearms to criminals.

Oh, and the 55% drop figure? The ATF, in the last five years, has shut down two gun dealers in Idaho. They're not responsible for the fewer firearms dealers any more than a line of floss can be responsible for stopping a commercial airliner. So what is responsible?

Americans are plagued by violence, and fed up with the NRA's scheming and spinning. They're done with guns and gun dealers who illegally allow those firearms to fall into the wrong hands.

How ironic that the violence made possible by the gun dealers could very be the catalyst that ends their sales for good? Because unfortunately, with the situation given to them by the NRA's influence on Congress, it doesn't look like that's something the ATF will be able to do.

Please do not punch your screen, it is not its fault. These a$$78les are pathetic.

bullseye
04-10-2007, 06:40 AM
maybe we should treat them like Zumbo and flood them with nice comments about howto pull their heads out of their collective a$$es. :catfight:

M1 Tanker
04-10-2007, 07:48 AM
Where did you get this from?

k98k792
04-10-2007, 07:57 AM
Sources, please.

turbothis
04-10-2007, 10:14 AM
god, i am totally lost here. maybe i am too young.....:kid:

SteelCore
04-10-2007, 12:58 PM
Now that is interesting. makes ya wanna join the NRA!

mistersquiggles
04-10-2007, 02:09 PM
in a way the'yre kind of right about one thing, well at least for me anyway..... I DO refer to them as jackbooted thugs, well actually i call them jackbooted nazi thugs, but hey thats just me, i have issue with a system that tells us that our constituion is the highest law in the land, and then they make a whole agency just so they can try to take one of those highest laws (read RIGHTS) away from us...... but hey i'm in the NRA too...... glad to hear theyre doing what we send em our dues to do!!!

hunter_la5
04-10-2007, 02:35 PM
Where did you get this from?


kinda wondering that myself. and who was it addressed to?

cimmaronkid
04-10-2007, 11:28 PM
Don't know where his source came from, but I can direct you to the web sight of the dealer mentioned in the text, Red's Trading Post.

http://www.redstradingpost.com/atf.php

Ryan Horsley has taken on BATF and is upping the stakes against them. He has made two commericals that are being aired on the local TV stations, has a petition that is being signed to present to Congress, fighting them in court, etc. He is a fine gentleman and any help anyone can give such as signing his petition as some of you already have is greatly appreciated. All this and more is on his web site.

bullseye
04-12-2007, 12:23 AM
I went to sign this and found out I had already signed it #157.

MicroPilot
04-15-2007, 01:31 PM
Sources, please.

I tried Googling several lines from the article and did not come up with any hits.

Grasshopper - What is the source of this article?

Enigma Nostra
04-15-2007, 04:05 PM
http://www.gunguys.com/?p=2050

Gun Guys are an anti gun violence group that seems to believe that guns are the problem.

-E