Weekend with a Madsen

[TaosBob101]

This qualifies as other... A Dealer friends pre-86 papered Chilean contract
M1950 Madsen Danish LMG in 30/06 ! :worthy:

He said "here" on an annual summer time shoot we have. Gravity feed 30rd mags ..they worked , has mill cut cooling finns on barrel under the outer jacket. The barrel moves to unlock like Browningst each cycle. .

Didn't like reloads but ate up CMP Greek and the current Century import ball.

Yes it is C&R.

Edit Note* It' s an M1950 Model. Want to be correct...Changed the Mod # number

[Norton]

Man that is a cool looking MG . How was it to shoot and how do gravity feed mags load do they have any sort of mag spring? also if I remember rightI read they still used that MG in the El Salvador civil war up until at least 1983. I may be wrong but I think they called it the 'Old dog'. The article was titled 'Spreading the dog to thin'

[wonderwolf]

Were these originally 7mm?

[IMBLITZVT]

Thats pretty cool! I would love to shoot one.

[TaosBob101]

Total Gravity feed mags ,no spring. Came in 8mm,7.65mm,7mm,30/06,.303,7.62x54R. Sold to 34 countries. From the M1926 model to the M1950 model
( source: Smith & Smith "Small Arms of the World" )

[cetme]

I think this is the part were I say "you lucky bastard":worthy:

[wonderwolf]

Ok so what happens if you get through say half a magazine run a ways and hit the dirt and the gun is sideways or at some point upside down....(bear with me on this)...wouldnt the remaining rounds get turned around inside?

[TaosBob101]

Pull your knife ?

I don't know , I haven't fought with one yet.
It did feed as an serious C&R MG. No jams for what I was doing. USGI .30AP, in this ,would be deadly for those keeping track out there .:machinegun:






pic credit : Guisan Nice Swiss blade

Nice Dane LMG . Best of Europe.

[wonderwolf]

That ain't a knife....NOW THATZ-A-KNIFE.....I'm waiting for steelcore to start posting pics of blades...:catcorn:


It looks like you had alot of fun with it though. Its a unique weapon for sure

[SteelCore]

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[wonderwolf]

Took him long enough :bash:

[Cutaway]

It is in use here by Brazillian police, Circa 2007. Just proves how good the thing is lol

http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data//500/medium/Madsen_LMG.jpg

[weasel_master]

How do you keep the rounds falling out if there's no spring to keep compression on the rounds against the feed lips?

[hunter_la5]

How do you keep the rounds falling out if there's no spring to keep compression on the rounds against the feed lips?

gravity

[weasel_master]

Just make sure you don't ever tip the mag or what? I would think that the weight of the rest of the rounds wouldn't be enough to hold the top round adequately against the feed lips without having it slide out of the mag.

[hunter_la5]

Just make sure you don't ever tip the mag or what? I would think that the weight of the rest of the rounds wouldn't be enough to hold the top round adequately against the feed lips without having it slide out of the mag.

this same topic came up on the old board a while back about the madsen, and I was asking the exact same questions you were. in my mind, a gravity-fed mag is a bad idea and seems like it should jam the moment you tip the gun the wrong way. but "evidently it worked, because it's been in use since before WWI and was known for it's reliability" was the best answer I could get.

I suppose the recoiling of the gun could be enough to knock the cartridges back into place if they went askew?

[weasel_master]

My concern would be having it out of the gun. There's not that much weight to the rounds so I would think they would fall out if you jostled the magazine at all, outside the gun.

[wonderwolf]

yeah, I'm kinda curious myself

[TaosBob101]

If I re-call, it's a single stack mag w/locking tabs holding the mag to the weapon.It had sort of a hopper (?) that fed them into the chamber. I fired from the prone and "John Wayne" style. It ran great w/ "good" ammo. Won't be till Aug till I see it again.

[wonderwolf]

If I re-call, it's a single stack mag w/locking tabs holding the mag to the weapon.It had sort of a hopper (?) that fed them into the chamber. I fired from the prone and "John Wayne" style. It ran great w/ "good" ammo. Won't be till Aug till I see it again.



:book:?????????

[TaosBob101]

Nope, mag out ,loaded, no rounds fell out. I looking for a diagram/exploded drawing right now to post.

[hunter_la5]

Nope, mag out ,loaded, no rounds fell out. I looking for a diagram/exploded drawing right now to post.

that would be helpful if you could find one

i'm guessing that this is like comparing apples to oranges, but could someone try removing the spring from a G3 mag or something and see if they can get rounds to "fall out" or jam up? I would but i don't have access to them right now...

[brewskzilla]

Now I know alot of us have a meticulous "how's it work" curiosity, but dang... If it works, it works. If it's single stack, it would be easier to keep the bullets lined up. Aw, hell, I'm just as curious. SOMEONE here must have the answers.

[jfowl31]

from the pics of the magazines, it looks like the magazine is tapered thinner at the front which would keep the bullets from turning over. As far as them not coming out when its out of the gun, I'd guess that they would have to be loaded in and/or taken out by sliding them forward just like the bolt does when it "picks them up". Think of how a single stack pistol magazine works. You push them in from the front and down. I suppose the rounds could fall out if they were jostled just right, but I imagine the mags are kept in pouches until they are needed, so this isn't a problem. If everything is as I imagine it, it wouldnt matter if everything got turned sideways or upside down, so long as it was back to right side up when fired. Everything would slosh around and fall right back into place as it should be.

[RandyCOG3]

Maybe the idea is... you don't run!
Just keep feeding it 'til the other guy goes away.....?

RandyCOG3

[jettag]

I think I need a belt fed:sterb126:

[Gavin]

In the 1930,s when the British Army was evaluating LMGs prior to selecting the czech for runner of the Bren, the masden was a contender. One complaint was about the magazines in that they tended to be noisy when carried as the rounds clanked around. This would not be a good idea on a night patrol.

[MG-42]

First all my madsen magazines have springs and my madsen is not gravity fed.
You can find a great deal of info, manuals and pictures for the madsen at forgotten weapons.com