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ptrthgr8
03-19-2007, 06:01 AM
I've only got one at the moment - a DSA G1 collectors edition:

http://images14.fotki.com/v21/photos/4/47955/2165530/G1_lft2-vi.jpg

Overall it's a great rifle, but I do hate the phony flash hider. I'm going to have to replace it one of these days.

Cheers,

~ Greg ~

tump
03-19-2007, 05:16 PM
only 1 but thats all it takes going to switch it around when the cash flow picks up.

Genocide
03-20-2007, 01:21 AM
I've only got one at the moment - a DSA G1 collectors edition:

http://images14.fotki.com/v21/photos/4/47955/2165530/G1_lft2-vi.jpg

Overall it's a great rifle, but I do hate the phony flash hider. I'm going to have to replace it one of these days.

Cheers,

~ Greg ~

Thats some slick wood!

Player
03-20-2007, 02:04 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/baylorhenry/DSC_3857.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/baylorhenry/DSC_3875.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/baylorhenry/DSCN6191.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/baylorhenry/DSCN6370ed.jpg

my FAL para will be completed as soon as i get it put together and the remaining $3xx kit in!!!!

Old Dominion
03-20-2007, 05:16 PM
Here's mine, an STG built by Coyote Gulch Armory. It uses an Imbel receiver.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/TimDawg/Picture140.jpg

fal_762x51
03-21-2007, 08:24 PM
This what my G1 clone looked like when I built it many years ago. It now sports a wood stock and flash suppressor. Oh yeah, no jokes about the stubby mag; California sucks.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/calegal/3-19-0508.jpg

rep30cal
03-21-2007, 11:15 PM
You won't hear stubby jokes from me, at least you got a Fal.
I sold mine years ago and have never replaced it, nice rifles
guys.

:rocker:

the_weasel
03-23-2007, 04:08 PM
Here is mine, it's an Imbel built on a Century receiver... Entreprise "slight blem" Furniture, FSE HTS. Finished with Brownells Matte Black baking lacquer.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/The_Weasel_/FAL1.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/The_Weasel_/FAL4.jpg

M1 Tanker
03-23-2007, 05:03 PM
First is an Imbel GL on an excellent Imbel Kit I got from Tapco for $89.

961

Next is a true Franken Fal from a $99 Tapco mixed kit

Imbel GL Receiver
South African Lower
British Charging handle, rear sight, selector, bolt/carrier
Argentinian barrel cut to 16.25 inches
Israeli front sight/gas block

962

Next is a DCI Type I receiver on a G-1 kit from Tapco for $89. It took a lot of work, but shoots excellent.

963

bataanboy
03-23-2007, 06:10 PM
I've been toying with the idea of building a FAL kit. Who still has receivers and are they complex builds? I'm pretty handy with mechanical things but have never built a rifle. Thanks

M1 Tanker
03-23-2007, 06:21 PM
As far as builds go, FALs are easy....with the right tools. Nodakspud is making receivers again, as is DSA. Both are top notch receivers. You will also need a receiver wrench, a barrel vise, headspace gages and a pin gage set. If the barrel will hand time to 11:00, you torque it over to 12, check TDC to make sure your sights are aligned and then use the pin gages to see what size locking shoulder to order. Fairly simple build.

texgunner
03-24-2007, 11:31 AM
Ok, here's my Imbel on Imbel. It was built by Randy Kline, of Sledgehammer Arms Works. He assembled and reparked the rifle. I did the furniture. It's Penquin's economy stuff. I re-located the handguard mounting hole to eliminate that "crooked" look and finished them with bedliner and Krylon OD green, covered with a matte clear acrylic spray.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/FALfullviewright.jpg

mutter
03-25-2007, 05:23 PM
They're in the back. this is the picture I carry with me to lift my spirits when I'm down.The one in the back is a an Izzy HB on an imbel logo I got cheap about a year ago and the other is a century on an imbel logo.

Norton
03-25-2007, 07:54 PM
This is my FAL built on a Australian SLR parts set dated August 1966. It could have been carried in Vietnam.The P 35 is a 1944 Canadian contract

grifter95
04-17-2007, 08:52 PM
:fn-fal: Its my favorite FAL!:coolgun: Its an Imbel kit built with bipod on a DSA type 1 reciever. It has a DSA extreme duty full length rail with a Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x50 FireFly rectical. It has DSA's x-series stock set, DSA's HTS which have been "tweaked" to a crisp 4.5lbs, and DSA's cocking handle. It was completely refparkerized by me (with the help of a gunsmith/friend). It also has had the bolt reciever "squeezed" and the bolt lapped in. It routinely shoots 1 to 1.5 inch groups with my various handloads. I also have a Century L1A1. Yeah its a Century....but hey it got me started with FAL's. I also have another imbel kit sitting around waiting to be built as soon as I get through building my CETME, 35 Whelen, and redblueing my MKII target. I'm planning on cutting the barrel down to 16 inches and making it a carbine.

nhbandit
04-22-2007, 03:43 PM
FAL # 8 for me of the ones I've built for myself. It took 2 years to locate all the correct parts and there are still a couple thing I need to find. It's a clone of an early Belgian T-48 like those used in the US trials against the T-44 which became the M14. LOTS of time and money invested in this one..

texgunner
04-22-2007, 04:06 PM
Wow Bandit! That's a fine looking FAL dude. Looks like time and money was well-spent indeed. Thanks for showing it to us. Gary

Bluedog
05-23-2007, 09:05 AM
I re-located the handguard mounting hole to eliminate that "crooked" look
Texgunner, How did you do this? I know it is simple enough to re drill the hole, but how did you fill in the original hole to give a solid fit. I really wan tot get my Penguin furniture lined up.

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/PB070006.JPG

SteelCore
05-23-2007, 09:54 AM
Cool to see quite a range in tastes and builds, old and new stuff.

Mutter, that is quite a collection you got there...Love that VZ in front!:rockon:

Longhorn789
05-23-2007, 10:37 AM
Old pic....but here she is...

StG58 with a 8x42 POSP. I prefer the open sights however..

Solid shooter.

4 brigada
05-23-2007, 08:43 PM
Here are pics of my CA legal Fal, argie para at sis house in GA (not CA legal)

All built on new parts, Stg 58 clone and T 48 clone of DSA (DSA T 48 not total copy either),T 48 one with nice wood furniture the other with the evil black to scare the folk at the range or CA DOJ. I miss my para

wandering_ronin
05-23-2007, 11:33 PM
Here is my Century L1A1 with Izzy furniture:

bas@gunpics
05-24-2007, 09:08 PM
My G1
(already posted it, but what the heck) :D
http://www.gunpics.net/german/g1/G1_016.JPG

yongxingfreesty
05-31-2007, 09:13 PM
Hey, noobie here. purchased an FAL with the CETME.
Here is the FAL

Younggun
05-31-2007, 09:37 PM
What This thread needs is a Correct early model Aussie L1A1 and I'm glad to be of assistance This is an old pic before I go the Locking shoulder and the pivot pin

Player
06-08-2007, 03:40 AM
took these today

i know, i know, my friend really should get rid of those thumbhole stocks, but he doesn't want to for some reason...

M1 Tanker
06-08-2007, 09:44 AM
Henry, did you take the Para yet?

rep30cal
07-10-2007, 02:16 AM
A long, long time ago, I seen a rifle that I thought one day I'd like to have
one of those. There was a picture in like Time or Newsweek or some such
that had a couple of women walking on a tennis court, somewhere like
South Africa or some such place, one of the women had a FAL slung across
her shoulder and I swear I thought that sweet rifle was longer than she was
tall. Well I got one of those monkey built ones and it worked OK, but when
I needed some cash, off it went and I hated it ever since. Today, I got a
better one than the one I had (I believe anyway), I traded one of my AR15's
for an Entreprise Arms/Imbel STG58C, it looks to be fairly well built and now I
have a new rifle to learn about. Aren't you supposed to learn before you buy?

tump
07-10-2007, 08:51 PM
nice looking rifle. mine is also built on a EA reciever and i have had no problems so far.:icon_biggrin:

Pirate
07-10-2007, 09:20 PM
these are 2 of my favorites, my HB Izzy and an STG58 para. I also have a DSA sa58 and an LiA1. I am waiting on a receiver to build a nice pistol to round out the set.

rochte
08-10-2007, 09:17 PM
Ah, gentlemen... It's been a long time... I had actually forgotten that CETMErifles was gone and the redirect brought me here... Well, while I'm here, I thought I'd post some FAL pics!

Not the greatest quality - taken in the basement in a hurry a few months ago - but you'll get the idea, anyway:

Early Century "Made in Canada" L1A1 on Argy receiver


Israeli light barrel kit built by Gunplumber on a DSA type 2


Onyx import Israeli light barrel (SBL "Made in Israel" receiver)


Mutt carbine (Izzy furniture, StG kit, Inch parts here and there, DSA hooded rear site on Izzy 700 meter base, etc.)

MID
08-10-2007, 10:29 PM
2 more of my builds,

SA rhodesian with cammo, x-long stock.
SA rhodesian without cammo,x-long stock.

Is that a grenade sight on the front of that?

Player
08-11-2007, 04:05 AM
FAL para.. here we go!!!

photos by David. I did editing for these

hunter_la5
08-13-2007, 03:47 PM
Henry, sweet pics, so I guess you finally finished your para FAL. How do you like it compared to the L1a1?

Nazgul
09-01-2007, 08:20 PM
Here's my sweet FAL Belgian DPMS. My punk friend in the pic loves it as much as me!

RIPPER
09-03-2007, 11:31 AM
I'm down to one...


PAC/Imbel STG58
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/RIPPER334/MBR/FAL.jpg

...and yes, that an M1 Garand sling on there. I picked up an original Australian one, a few months ago...just never put it on.

jfowl31
09-03-2007, 11:49 PM
Hey Henry...

Whats the deal with the little bit of"flare" comin out of the gas port? In the pictures with muzzle flash, there is also a flash back where the ejection port is... possibly a leak? or do they all do that?

Player
09-04-2007, 01:02 AM
Hey Henry...

Whats the deal with the little bit of"flare" comin out of the gas port? In the pictures with muzzle flash, there is also a flash back where the ejection port is... possibly a leak? or do they all do that?

i think they all do that, my L1A1's flashhider hides all the flash from the muzzle, but it spits a small little flash up top like that when it's real real dark

IMBLITZVT
09-07-2007, 08:26 AM
Just got done reparking mine. Its a Aussy L1A1 kit on a Imbel receiver. The DSA cocking handle came out a little dark but you know different steal comes out different color.

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/phiteshe/L1A1Imbel.JPG

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/phiteshe/L1A1ImbelL.JPG

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/phiteshe/L1A1ImbelR.JPG

I really like the wood cocking knob. I do not really like the inch folding cocking handle and I love having a wood matching cocking knob. I also changed out the BHO so it holds open on an empty mag.

zb-30
09-08-2007, 08:23 PM
Nice build! How do you like that Trilux scope?

IMBLITZVT
09-10-2007, 01:59 PM
Thanks,

Its pretty nice! Its a little hard to get your head around but it works for a lefty too.

AndyC
09-10-2007, 02:07 PM
Hey Henry...

Whats the deal with the little bit of "flare" comin out of the gas port? In the pictures with muzzle flash, there is also a flash back where the ejection port is... possibly a leak? or do they all do that?
That's the gas-port venting gas, as it's designed to do. You can close the gas-port all the way down so that none gets out, but then you've got full-power gas cycling the piston, which will give you full-throttle ejection... but will also hammer the internal parts quite hard :wink:

mojojojo
10-01-2007, 02:24 PM
Here's a pic of my FN heavy barrel.

Templar
10-01-2007, 07:26 PM
I have two, both are DSA StG-58's, one a post ban "A" model and another no-ban "Standard" model.

The Standard was turned into a clone of a Rhodesian/South African R1, I put the walnut stock off of the StG-58A on it, and replaced it with a synthetic for the post ban.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/G3%20and%20R1/DSC00243.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/G3%20and%20R1/DSC00242.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/G3%20and%20R1/DSC00241.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/G3%20and%20R1/DSC00240.jpg


The Post Ban is now wearing a synthetic StG-58 buttstock, but here it is with the walnut.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Range%20Day%204-01-07%20Old%20School/OldSchool023.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/Range%20Day%204-01-07%20Old%20School/OldSchool011.jpg

SLUF
10-01-2007, 08:51 PM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/SLUF1354/L1A1.jpg
Pretty decent old piece. Lots of fun and accurate. Had to put fresh tritium pellet in the SUIT.

zb-30
10-01-2007, 09:10 PM
Thats what I'm talking about!

I love the inch rifles! I will be building a Brit L1a1 soon, and Ill have a spare stock set so it can do double duty as an Aussie. I'm also going to build an Aussie SAS b*tch rifle as well. I'll be sure to post pics when I'm done.

Patria Povo
10-01-2007, 09:24 PM
Thats what I'm talking about!

I love the inch rifles! I will be building a Brit L1a1 soon, and Ill have a spare stock set so it can do double duty as an Aussie. I'm also going to build an Aussie SAS b*tch rifle as well. I'll be sure topost pics when I'm done.

Haha, I grew-up in Swanbourne, Western Australia - a few blocks from SASR Campbell Barracks. Used to see them running all the time, and doing the helicopter insertion - beach swim-in.

zb-30
10-01-2007, 09:35 PM
Very Cool!!

jerrymrc
10-06-2007, 07:34 PM
I am new here and have a few. Have helped many build there first one.

First one. Like your Fal but wish it was a little different? So if you have a G-1/Izzy/Imbel/STG-58 what do ya do?

jerrymrc
10-06-2007, 07:39 PM
So ya want the normal Fal....... Just in Camo. P.S. this was a normal metric build that one day I got bored looking at it. 3 hours later my first (and only) Camo job.
Only gun I have with camo.

jerrymrc
10-06-2007, 07:46 PM
So nothing trips your trigger. Got to be out there.

What to build? 7.62X25 Mostly aluminum under 6lbs
blow back carbine. No recoil, fun to shoot and accurate out to 200 yards.

I have the standard Fals but thought you here might like to see some of the oddballs.:thumbup:

gunnysmith
10-06-2007, 07:51 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/gunnysmith/Misc%20gun%20stuff/FNG19.jpg
Original G1, and yes it is, so is the short one above it

gunnysmith
10-06-2007, 07:54 PM
So nothing trips your trigger. Got to be out there.

What to build? 7.62X25 Mostly aluminum under 6lbs
blow back carbine. No recoil, fun to shoot and accurate out to 200 yards.

I have the standard Fals but thought you here might like to see some of the oddballs.:thumbup:

I would like to see that adapter block in close up if you have the time.
Excellent job.:thumbup:

jerrymrc
10-06-2007, 08:10 PM
I would like to see that adapter block in close up if you have the time.
Excellent job.:thumbup:

I can do that. It will take a couple of days since I am going out tomorrow and it is going with me.

Have to have something to shoot all that cheap surplus besides the CZ52.

gunnysmith
10-06-2007, 08:15 PM
I can do that. It will take a couple of days since I am going out tomorrow and it is going with me.

Have to have something to shoot all that cheap surplus besides the CZ52.

N problem on the time, and thank you :thumbup:

Patria Povo
10-06-2007, 08:15 PM
So nothing trips your trigger. Got to be out there.

What to build? 7.62X25 Mostly aluminum under 6lbs
blow back carbine. No recoil, fun to shoot and accurate out to 200 yards.

I have the standard Fals but thought you here might like to see some of the oddballs.:thumbup:

I love your garden! And the FALs are interesting, too. :thumbup:

hunter_la5
10-06-2007, 08:25 PM
I am new here and have a few. Have helped many build there first one.

First one. Like your Fal but wish it was a little different? So if you have a G-1/Izzy/Imbel/STG-58 what do ya do?

woah, CETME handguard on a FAL.... trippy....

those are some very interesting FALs, I've never seen anything like 'em. nice job

Norton
10-06-2007, 08:30 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/gunnysmith/Misc%20gun%20stuff/FNG19.jpg
Original G1, and yes it is, so is the short one above it

Gunny Tell us about the Resing!

gunnysmith
10-06-2007, 09:11 PM
Gunny Tell us about the Resing!

I picked it up from J Curtis Earl in 1972 in Phoenix. Got 3 20 roundmags with it. It was surplus military previously, but the last registered owner before me was the Las Vegas PD
It's never failed in all those years.
Jesus, that's 35 years now, time flies I guess.
The magazines cost more today than I paid Curtis for the Reising in 1972 LOL
Some of the stories about them failing are more rumor than fact.
It is very accurate out to 100 yds, 3 to 4 inch groups.
Auto fire is very controlable because of the slow cyclic rate.

jerrymrc
10-19-2007, 01:13 PM
N problem on the time, and thank you :thumbup:

Here ya go.

gunnysmith
10-19-2007, 01:26 PM
Very nice workman ship.
Thank you for the pictures

W.E.G.
01-24-2008, 08:08 AM
Accuracy tests at http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1761162

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/targets/100yards-hirtenberger.jpg

Otis61
03-09-2008, 12:02 PM
This is my newest build. IMBEL with Entreprise reciever.

machineguneddie
03-09-2008, 02:35 PM
my 2
http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL611/2657843/8320428/289481745.jpg

texlurch
03-09-2008, 02:40 PM
This is my newest build. IMBEL with Entreprise reciever.

That is pretty much i-darn-dentical to mine... :thumbup:

AGG1
03-10-2008, 10:00 AM
Here's a pic of my FN heavy barrel.

Awesome 50:42!!! :rockon:

Tony

torquemada055
03-14-2008, 06:06 PM
Here's the Family so far, a set of metric triplets
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x140/torquemada55/tripletsL.jpg
Mom the All American Para, with a hint of Brit heritage

And Pop the Aussie transplant!
[Cousin Bubba from the backwoods
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x140/torquemada55/Curt2.jpg

And soon there will be 2 more members of the Family, a Maple clad carbine and a Short gas Inch Para as soon as I can afford to have them built.

7.62mm
04-06-2008, 01:52 PM
This is my CAI R1A1.

Rexican
04-07-2008, 08:55 PM
Here's my Israeli Fal, yes with the crap thumbhole stock it came with. I won't be able to change the furniture for a long time: I have all my funds in other projects. really sweet shooter, though.

Buelligan
04-07-2008, 09:09 PM
Mine is nothing to brag about, just a CIA L1A1 from 7 years ago or so. I removed the noise maker. before that I couldent hit the brod side of a barn with it. i hope this helps , I havent shot it since i took it off.

Planning
04-07-2008, 09:45 PM
a few of my rhodia & zimbabwe ( south africian) fal's,
they have the required U.S. made compliance parts.
the fal rifle were barreled, headspaced and timed by ken kubin.
i then assembled the rifle and finished them.

ron

LorDiego
04-07-2008, 10:09 PM
Wow Planning,

that looks great. Reminds me of the "Swamp Thing". :D

Templar
04-09-2008, 06:20 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/G3%20and%20R1/DSC00243-1-1.jpg

KMURPHY
04-09-2008, 08:17 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/G3%20and%20R1/DSC00243-1-1.jpg

Yes.....most definitely!:airtight:

mojojojo
04-13-2008, 05:27 PM
Took some quick pics of my Belgian FALs for insurance purposes...my poor camera doesn't do them justice.

AGG1
04-14-2008, 09:17 AM
Awesome early 50.00, 50.42 (don't see too many) and 50.64!!! :rockon:
Where's the 50.41 and 50.63?

Tony

Woodman in MO
04-14-2008, 09:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/G3%20and%20R1/DSC00243-1-1.jpg


Right click....save as....

KMURPHY
04-14-2008, 02:34 PM
Right click....save as....


hehe mee too

Bulletboy
04-14-2008, 02:58 PM
Heres one, my other one is in pieces right now..

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f258/suckaf00/faldone2.jpg
Has a red dot sight on the top cover now. I'm swapping that out for an EoTech.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f258/suckaf00/faldone3.jpg
Overly expensive but cool flash hider;
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f258/suckaf00/faldone4.jpg
Single point sling channel between stock and receiver;
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f258/suckaf00/done1.jpg

AGG1
04-15-2008, 01:06 PM
Awesome FAL goodness, Templar and BB!!! :rockon:

Tony

Otis61
04-15-2008, 01:56 PM
Nice Planning. You've been busy.

AGG1
04-15-2008, 02:15 PM
That's very nice, P!!! :eek:
Looks like a factory build! :rockon:

Tony

KMURPHY
04-18-2008, 10:45 PM
Beautifulllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ctdemolay0405
04-19-2008, 04:12 PM
god i want a FAL....

nowhereman
04-19-2008, 04:21 PM
I want one too!!! I have been going inbetween a CAI FAL and a DPMS .308... The FAL will win if I can hadle one and its good to go... Those are nice Plan!

LorDiego
04-19-2008, 06:38 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/lordiego/FAL.jpg

This is my CAI Fal. Its got a DSA rail, SAW pistol grip and buttstock, and a T48 handguard.

Its missing some sort of scope, a bipod, sling and a Bill Springer (sp?) trigger. Which I hope to be able to afford soon.

rifleman
04-19-2008, 11:24 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c191/lordiego/FAL.jpg

This is my CAI Fal. Its got a DSA rail, SAW pistol grip and buttstock, and a T48 handguard.

Its missing some sort of scope, a bipod, sling and a Bill Springer (sp?) trigger. Which I hope to be able to afford soon.

that is bad ass, i want one now too...:icon_neutral:

JustJohn369
04-20-2008, 07:59 AM
7978
I dunno if this will go through, but here's a go...

JustJohn369
04-20-2008, 08:01 AM
O.k., it went through. It's a I.O. kit built on a new run Enterprise type 3. I know Enterprise has a rep, but mine was pretty straight forward. No problems with it what so ever.

M1 Tanker
04-20-2008, 10:32 AM
Mojo, you don't see many Belgian HB's...thats awesome!

animator
04-21-2008, 09:48 PM
My first FAL build:


It's an Imbel Kit built off an Entreprise Type 02 receiver, with a 21" DSA medium-contour barrel.

The Stanag-style optic mount is going to be replaced very soon with something that sits a bit lower.

I'll build another one one of these days...

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm21/animator752/fal.jpg

Drew
04-21-2008, 10:52 PM
Planning, That one looks great! I need to stop looking at pictures of ya'lls FAL's I'm already thinking about getting one... or two and I've still got half my Tour left over here.

Templar
05-27-2008, 10:37 PM
Armscorp Para....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/FAL/Armscorp%20FAL%20Para/DSC06380.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Tim_Orrock/FAL/Armscorp%20FAL%20Para/DSC06384.jpg

AGG1
05-28-2008, 01:05 PM
Sweet and clean, Templar!!! :eek:
Posted elsewhere on that "other site"! :rockon:

Tony

jettag
06-21-2008, 09:43 PM
Here's hers:

Otis61
06-28-2008, 11:27 AM
Nice. I like those Izzys.

k98k792
06-28-2008, 12:08 PM
I don't think I ever added mine to this thread. Imbel kit built on a Century. It took some tweaking but now it runs like a watch. Penguin blems,Duplicolor 1200 header paint. DSA Belgian brake,Tapco piston.

Templar
06-28-2008, 07:18 PM
Great lookin' stuff guys!

The Fusil Automatique Leger is my all time favorite battle rifle.

thedave8
07-13-2008, 09:09 PM
CAI L1A1

DSA SA58



Both are awesome shooters!!!!!!!!!

mojo00
08-04-2008, 05:48 AM
My L1A1 and L2A2 SUIT

Norton
08-24-2008, 06:36 PM
A better shot of my retro SLR in Wild Geese trim.

Otis61
08-24-2008, 09:08 PM
Wow. Some really nice ones have been added here latly guys. I especially like yours K98. I dont know what it is about black,and green together in a rifle.

Buelligan
08-24-2008, 09:20 PM
I wish I could get a 22cal convertion kit for my FAL. Does any one make one????

Planning
08-25-2008, 09:46 AM
a few STG58 Built On New Demilled Rifle Kits. it Has Gear Logo Imbel Receiver.

HAVE NOT BEEN REFINISHED. ORIGINAL FINISH.

have the required U.S. made compliance parts.

the fal rifle were barreled, headspaced and timed by ken kubin.
i then assembled the rifles.

Otis61
08-25-2008, 03:14 PM
Just one more rifle for me to be jealous over Planning. VERY nice.:rockon::rockon::rockon:

Templar
08-25-2008, 06:41 PM
I wish I could get a 22cal convertion kit for my FAL. Does any one make one????


There were some, they are few and far between, and the're 'spensive!

KMURPHY
08-25-2008, 07:54 PM
There were some, they are few and far between, and the're 'spensive!

Understatement...

Planning
08-26-2008, 02:12 PM
another: rhodia ( south africian) fal,

this one has the light green and the dark green and i will add a blue-green mixed for a third color later. i will add pictures later of it with the third color ( i am letting each color dry hard first before adding the next color. also i have not knocked ( rubbed off) off the paint to show battle field wear.
the carry handles is cut off this one.

it has the correct number of 922r parts, century receiver, very smooth action, rhodia parts kit ( a rare very good condition kit).

this fal rifle was barreled, headspaced and timed by ken kubin.

i then assembled the rifle and finished it.

Drew
09-03-2008, 11:29 PM
century receiver, imbel parts kit, excellent 18" barrel.

finish is hi-temp paint.

it has the required 922R parts.

this fal rifle was barreled, headspaced and timed by ken kubin.

i then assembled the rifle.

ps: i found a mag, so i put it in there for those that like mags in the pictures.

Wow, I like that one!

Drew
09-04-2008, 08:12 AM
drew, if you liked that one, then you probably are going to like this one.


Yes sir, I like that one too! I've decided on getting a FAL eventually, just haven't figured out what flavor yet. This thread is helping me decide though!

Planning
09-04-2008, 09:26 AM
Yes sir, I like that one too! I've decided on getting a FAL eventually, just haven't figured out what flavor yet. This thread is helping me decide though!

thanks, i was digging this morning in a box and found a new late 80's L1A1 scope mount. i had to modify it for a FAL and do some fitting for the cover part, but i like it.

Planning
09-07-2008, 11:37 AM
SA (RA) para build

i got up this morning and i was going to work on the argentinia fal some more, but i am not sure yet where i want to go with it. i saw the other SA (RA) that was barrelled and ready to be assembled, so i figured i would work on it some. it is a really nice SA FAL kit with the para lower, extra nice barrel ( 18"), etc. i build it using the israel front handguards, i didn't use the SA gas regulator sites, i used an imbel gas regulator. i was going to use a imbel flash hider (u.s. made), but i am out of them so i installed a u.s. made stg58 looking flash hider, it is a little longer, but i like the looks on it. i also used the SA charging handle, i like it better than the tapco u.s. made ones. ( i think i am going to go back on the FAL'S and replace the tapco ones with the original ones where i can). i still need to find the bolt carriers for it. ( i will have to recheck the head space on it.)
it has the required 922r compliance parts.
ken kubin installed my barrels, check head space, and timing.
i assembled it and put the hi-temp paint on it. it, like all the rest of the FAL's will be dark parked later.

Drew
09-07-2008, 01:41 PM
SA (RA) para build

i got up this morning and i was going to work on the argentinia fal some more, but i am not sure yet where i want to go with it. i saw the other SA (RA) that was barrelled and ready to be assembled, so i figured i would work on it some. it is a really nice SA FAL kit with the para lower, extra nice barrel ( 18"), etc. i build it using the israel front handguards, i didn't use the SA gas regulator sites, i used an imbel gas regulator. i was going to use a imbel flash hider (u.s. made), but i am out of them so i installed a u.s. made stg58 looking flash hider, it is a little longer, but i like the looks on it. i also used the SA charging handle, i like it better than the tapco u.s. made ones. ( i think i am going to go back on the FAL'S and replace the tapco ones with the original ones where i can). i still need to find the bolt carriers for it. ( i will have to recheck the head space on it.)
it has the required 922r compliance parts.
ken kubin installed my barrels, check head space, and timing.
i assembled it and put the hi-temp paint on it. it, like all the rest of the FAL's will be dark parked later.

I like that one the best so far Planning! :thumbup: Think you made up my mind on which flavor to get (Izzy style). I've still got 5 months left over here and my gun list just keeps getting longer

BIG 54R
10-26-2008, 11:02 PM
here's my fal contribution.

she's an dan's imbel kit on an century new crapper rec'r:

mojo00
11-03-2008, 04:31 PM
Planning, have you built anything on a Enterprise receiver?

I cant get anyone locally here to touch them..just wondered if you had any thoughts on them? Personaly I see nothing wrong with it, compared to a Century or a Hesse. I have an Inch'er that needs barreling and headspaced.

bladeworks123
11-03-2008, 05:21 PM
An STG58 "carbined" (not by myself) Shoots pretty well. 4" at 100 yards. No malfunctions at 80 rounds. It was built on the dreaded Hesse receiver. I modified the Israeli HBAR furniture to fit. Brought it up to snuff on 922 parts and aside from replacing the imitation combination device and waiting on a few small parts, she's part o' da family.

Planning
11-03-2008, 05:49 PM
Planning, have you built anything on a Enterprise receiver?

I cant get anyone locally here to touch them..just wondered if you had any thoughts on them? Personaly I see nothing wrong with it, compared to a Century or a Hesse. I have an Inch'er that needs barreling and headspaced.

no i have not. i have built on imbel, century and springfield receivers.
i have not had any problems with the century, except for 1 and i sent it to ken k.. the last 12 or 15 fals (i don't remember how many) i just sent to ken kubin to install my barrel, headspace and timing. he has the tools and knowledge to do it and is very resonable in price. i then just assembly the rifle from there.

Planning
11-03-2008, 05:50 PM
An STG58 "carbined" (not by myself) Shoots pretty well. 4" at 100 yards. No malfunctions at 80 rounds. It was built on the dreaded Hesse receiver. I modified the Israeli HBAR furniture to fit. Brought it up to snuff on 922 parts and aside from replacing the imitation combination device and waiting on a few small parts, she's part o' da family.

looks very good:thumbup:

bladeworks123
11-03-2008, 06:06 PM
looks very good:thumbup:

Due in large part to excellent advice from the guys on this forum, and a very well placed order for some excellent left over stuff at your house:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

The furniture is NICE. Not a scratch on it..... :icon_biggrin: I inletted the buttstock to accept a rotating swivel. Built a jig for the press, cut the metal ring on the forearm in two spots for relief and pressed it down to the right diameter. Fits pretty good, tight and no rotation. Found the buttplate spring guide and spring and am now watching for a plunger or maybe I will build one when I have the time.

BIG 54R
11-03-2008, 09:58 PM
blade that izzy looks awesome,I wanna fraken fal mine into an izzy also once I come across some reasonably priced furniture.

KMURPHY
11-03-2008, 10:10 PM
Bought a DSA Type II, so now I can assemble the IMBEL kit i have onto it soon...

bladeworks123
11-04-2008, 12:41 AM
blade that izzy looks awesome,I wanna fraken fal mine into an izzy also once I come across some reasonably priced furniture.


Wasn't sure if I would like the HUGE handguard but.....Oh yeah! Beats the crap out of the old metal biscuit baker....The furniture I bought from Planning was immaculate. I'd say brand new. I still need to put the larger carry handle on, but I'll do that when I strip the gas tube off during my annual gun skrubbin' this winter.

Daffy
12-12-2008, 01:16 AM
Both built on Century rec. Only issues I had was the lower rec lock up, and Falcon hammer. Now they both run oh so sweet.

Top one: German/Turk. G1 (vet-bring-back look) 8 US compliant parts. Will be swaping out the tapco alum/plastic charger for a nicer one with US alum. knob I just got. Need to ding it up to match.

Bottom is my mutt. Aussi sand cut carrier and bolt, L1A1 mag release and bolt hold open (pin installed), US made AK type brake (works great) on 19" barrel, Brit made Izzy scope on l1a1 cover, Penquin butt and p. grip, p.grip modified to accept cleaing/oiler kit, Ecuadorian handguards (I believe) and I believe an early Izzy open ear gas block as I needed to use a short aussi plug and long US izzy piston, l1a1 rear sight. Rest of parts either US or Imbel. (11 US compliant parts)

Both are very accurate.

Schultz
12-12-2008, 07:20 AM
I thought i had posted mine. It's a STG58 w/Century reciever.

Grizzly45
01-05-2009, 07:09 PM
Here's my L1A1
As a practicing survivalist, I rely on three cal. 45acp, 308/7.62, and 12ga. So old school simple, 1911's Fal's and pump mossberg. And Benchmade blades. Bug out with security.
:2pistol:

BigBoy99
01-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Since we are showing pictures of ours guns, I thought I post pictures of the my FN Model49s, FALs and FNC.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t308/i422twains/FALs1.jpg

1. FN Model 1949, Sniper Model, Caliber 7.62x63mm, Receiver marked "AL" which stands for Armee Luxembourg.
2. FN Model 1949, Caliber 7.62x63mm, Receiver marked "AL" which stands for Armee Luxembourg.
3. FN Model 1949, Caliber 7.62x63mm, Receiver marked "AL" which stands for Armee Luxembourg. This is the deactivated selective fire model. The BATF approved this modification for importation prior to the GCA 1968.
4. FN Model 1949, Caliber 7.62x63mm, Receiver marked "AL" which stands for Armee Luxembourg. This is the standard model.
5. FN Model 1949, Caliber 7x57mm, Receiver marked with crest of Venezuela. This model has the left side of the receiver cut for a scope mount.
6. FN Model 1949, Caliber 7.62x63mm, Receiver marked with crest of Columbia. This model has the left side of the receiver cut for a scope mount.
7. FN Model 1949, Caliber 7.92x57mm, Receiver marked crest of Egypt.
8. FN Model 1949, Caliber 7.62x51mm, Receiver marked with crest of Argentina and "ARA" in a box. The rifle was initially manufactured in the 7.65x54mm caliber but was modified to change the caliber to 7.62x51mm.
9. T-48 FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This FAL has the unique wooden hand guard that was originally Belgium produced T-48's that were submitted to the U.S. Army for competition with the T-44 (which became the M-14.) The inscription on right side of receiver is, "Armscorp of America, Inc. Baltimore, Maryland USA".
10. Australia FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is one of standard L1A1 models that were imported from Australia. Initially 300 were to have been imported but only 158 made it in before the Bush ban on imported military rifles was enacted.
11. Australian FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, When the L1A1s were banned from further importation, very small quantities (less than 50) of the finished receivers were imported. An Australian L2A1 Heavy Barrel model parts kit was installed upon on this receiver.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t308/i422twains/FALs2.jpg

12. British L1A1 FAL parts kit assembled on Australian L1A1A receiver. This is truly a Commonwealth FAL. The receiver is Australian and the rest of the rifle is British.
13. FN FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is the standard version of the FAL (Model No. 50.00). The hand guard and pistol grip are made of black plastic.
14. FN FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is the paratrooper model of the FAL series (FN Factory Model No. 50.63).
15. Argentinean FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is the paratrooper model with 18-inch barrel and black synthetic hand guard, pistol grip and metal folding stock.
16. Austrian STG58, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is an Austrian STG58 parts kit assembled upon an Enterprise receiver.
17. Argentinean FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is the standard model with black synthetic hand guard, butt stock and pistol grip. The flash hider is the barrel type with lines of angled holes.
18, FN FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is the paratrooper model of the FAL series (Model No. 50.61). It has a folding stock with 533mm (21 inch) barrel.
19. FN FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is the Heavy Barrel version with the attached bipod of the FAL (FN Factory Model No. 50.42).
20. Indian FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is a parts kit for India FAL assembled upon an Armscorp receiver.
21. Israeli Heavy Barrel Model FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is an all Israeli FAL with an Israeli parts kit assembled upon an Israeli receiver.
22. Israeli Standard Model FAL, This is an all Israeli FAL with an Israeli parts kit assembled upon an Israeli receiver. This model of the Israeli FAL does not have a flash hider. The

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t308/i422twains/FALs3.jpg

23. FN FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is one of the G-series FAL, permitted to be imported before the BATF stopped them.
24. DSArms FAL, Standard Model, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is a US manufactured standard model FAL with black synthetic hand guard, butt stock and pistol grip.
25. Springfield FAL, Model SAR-48, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is the pre-ban model with the standard model with black synthetic hand guard, butt stock and pistol grip.
26. Argentinean FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is the heavy barrel model with black synthetic hand guard, butt stock and pistol grip. The flash hider is the barrel type with lines of angled holes.
27. FN FAL, Caliber 7.62x51mm, This is the standard version of the FAL (Model No. 50.00). The hand guard and pistol grip are made of black plastic.
28. FN FAL, , Caliber 7.62x51mm, This rifle was originally a G-Series FAL and then I convert it to selective fire. Adding the sear trip lever and grinding off the catch on the safety to permit it to move the "A" position was all that was needed to convert the rifle. Now I see why the BATF was so upset when they banned further import of them. The original wooden hand guard has been replaced with a German G-1 metal hand guard and folding bipod.
29. FN FNC, Caliber 5.56x45mm, This is the fixed stock model with black plastic hand guard, pistol grip and butt stock.

Bill

jlpskydive
01-06-2009, 02:35 PM
OK you win on this one..... Very nice collection!!!

LostInTexas
01-06-2009, 02:38 PM
Bill,

Thanks for sharing! That is a great collection and nice history of the different versions!

Schultz
01-06-2009, 02:39 PM
Wow nice collection. Are those 40 rnd mags?

Norton
01-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Man you are the King of FN 49s and FALs hands down.

Otis61
01-06-2009, 03:11 PM
Ahh!!! Woww!!!

Buelligan
01-06-2009, 04:06 PM
DAFFY, Where did you get that fancy plastic grip for your FAL. I have an L1A1 and I hate the P-grip.

KMURPHY
01-06-2009, 05:58 PM
Holy man...what a collection

wwIIBuff
01-06-2009, 06:53 PM
Wow, that is one hell of a collection

Planning
01-06-2009, 07:13 PM
WOW! really great collection of fal's :thumbup:
:airtight:

Rocky
01-06-2009, 08:46 PM
Here are some pics of my .223 sar 4800, kind of heavy for a .223 though.


Rocky :rockon:

thedave8
01-07-2009, 06:55 PM
you say # 28 is select fire........bet thats a handfull!!!!!!!!!

BigBoy99
01-08-2009, 02:41 PM
you say # 28 is select fire........bet thats a handfull!!!!!!!!!

It is a hand full if you fire 7.62x51mm ammo in it.

However, I have an H&K .22LR conversion kit and I shoot mainly .22LR in it. Full auto with .22LR is a blast and affordable!

Bill

BigBoy99
01-08-2009, 02:47 PM
Wow nice collection. Are those 40 rnd mags?

Those are two 20 round mags that were joined together to get a larger capacity magazine. The bottom of one 20 rd mag was squared off and the top of another 20 rd mags was squaed off. The two squared portions were welded together to make a greater than 30 rd but less than 40 rd magazine.

I do have some original 30 round magazines in both metric and inch pattern.

Bill

thedave8
01-08-2009, 04:57 PM
it is a hand full if you fire 7.62x51mm ammo in it.

However, i have an h&k .22lr conversion kit and i shoot mainly .22lr in it. Full auto with .22lr is a blast and affordable!

Bill

sweeeeeeet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thedave8
01-08-2009, 05:01 PM
Here are some pics of my .223 sar 4800, kind of heavy for a .223 though.


Rocky :rockon:

I would love to add a 223 fal to my collection....where can i get one?

Rocky
01-08-2009, 08:22 PM
They are very rare, if you see one buy it!


Rocky :rockon:

Buelligan
01-10-2009, 01:16 PM
My FAL , its fun to shoot and runs like crazy, but it grupes 10 to 12ins at 100yards, Mybe the head spacing is off?

Planning
01-10-2009, 01:45 PM
My FAL , its fun to shoot and runs like crazy, but it grupes 10 to 12ins at 100yards, Mybe the head spacing is off?

pull your flash suppressor off and try it.:airtight:

Buelligan
01-10-2009, 02:01 PM
I have not tryed it with the G3 FH thats on now . It used to have the CAI NOISE MAKER on it. I have not shot it since about 3 or 4 years . I will try it again.

Schultz
01-10-2009, 02:43 PM
I first posted this in the "Saved an IMBEL" thread but wanted to wait till i put the right furniture on it to post a pic here.

oramoc
01-10-2009, 03:30 PM
here is my very early stg58 orig. finnish imbel rec.

chili
02-09-2009, 06:06 PM
Here are two I cobbled from a few boxes of parts. All 922r compliant.

thedave8
02-09-2009, 08:13 PM
Here are two I cobbled from a few boxes of parts. All 922r compliant.

i love the camo one...............whatya call it ????????????

jerrymrc
02-09-2009, 08:32 PM
i love the camo one...............whatya call it ????????????

A Fal without a locking shoulder:wink:......

19Charlie_84
02-09-2009, 09:56 PM
I just aquired a FAL, needs to be checked for headspace and timing. I put TAPCO green SAW furniture on it, but its not done yet so no pics. Its a century with the combo muzzle device and I want to put an STG ribbed one on. Are the century combo's permenantly attached or just mega hard to take off. Also are they standard threads or reverse? Its an all metric R1A1.

chili
02-10-2009, 05:44 AM
i love the camo one...............whatya call it ????????????

Haven't named it, yet. Wife-n-Kids call the black one Black Beauty.

BTW, the camo paint is Krylon Camo. The black one was done in Gun Kote w/the stocks done in Krylon Fusion.

Cheers
Chili

chili
02-10-2009, 05:47 AM
A Fal without a locking shoulder:wink:......

Good eye! I am busted! :rolleyes: Picture was made before the LS arrived since the one with the kit was the wrong size.

dvutah
02-10-2009, 06:04 PM
Just sold my DSA Stg58 to get this DSA:

Stainless SA58:

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n347/dvutah/dsasa58ss.jpg

thedave8
02-10-2009, 08:37 PM
Haven't named it, yet. Wife-n-Kids call the black one Black Beauty.

BTW, the camo paint is Krylon Camo. The black one was done in Gun Kote w/the stocks done in Krylon Fusion.

Cheers
Chili

Looks sweet!!! someone has to give a step by step/ tips on doing camo jobs like this....i have done many rifles, but never camo.......scared i will mess it up.....please someone give me the confidence to do a camo job!!!!!!!!

chili
02-10-2009, 09:38 PM
Looks sweet!!! someone has to give a step by step/ tips on doing camo jobs like this....i have done many rifles, but never camo.......scared i will mess it up.....please someone give me the confidence to do a camo job!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the kind comments. Don't sell yourself short. That was my first camo paint job on a gun and I was scared I would screw it up too.

What I did:
Clean the rifle's surface with mineral spirits
Paint the base coat in tan
Draw in pencil the patern for the green paint
Paint the green spots
Let dry
Total time was about 90 minutes give or take.
A space heater near by will help cure the paint a little quicker.

HTH

Chili

jerrymrc
02-10-2009, 09:52 PM
Good eye! I am busted! :rolleyes: Picture was made before the LS arrived since the one with the kit was the wrong size.

Just busting the newbs chops. Good looking toys ya got.:thumbup:

19Charlie_84
02-11-2009, 06:22 AM
I posted this somewhere else on here. Its a paintball forum but he uses a 10/22 stock for demo of tiger stripe. Its friggin sweet too:

http://forum.specialopspaintball.com...howtopic=36970

I would switch black and green tho, more green w/ black stripes.

thedave8
02-11-2009, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the kind comments. Don't sell yourself short. That was my first camo paint job on a gun and I was scared I would screw it up too.

What I did:
Clean the rifle's surface with mineral spirits
Paint the base coat in tan
Draw in pencil the patern for the green paint
Paint the green spots
Let dry
Total time was about 90 minutes give or take.
A space heater near by will help cure the paint a little quicker.

HTH

Chili

Thanks for the tips........i'm just gonna have to say the hell with it and just go for it!!!!!!! maybe on one of my VZ-58's i am doing......

cevgunner
03-29-2009, 01:56 PM
Some really nice looking rifles here - used to have an STG58 years ago , traded for a G3 clone.

The L1A1 I still have , got a bit of a facelift , and currently graces the consignment rack at Fletcher`s in Waukesha ( Wi).

Shoots a lot better , after having chopped 2 1/2" of blunderbuss tube from the business end.

Ironwood Designs buttstock , PG , DSA long Browning Flash hider, HTS from that guy up in Minnesota (senior moment ! grr) Stock finish is RIT dark brown dye , hand rubbed oil , topped with a coat of Butch`s bowling alley wax.

If it wasn`t for creeping up on the rear sight , I`d shoot it more than every 2 years ...

chili
03-29-2009, 11:37 PM
Nice! I love the short FALs. Aww, who am I kidding? I love all FALs!

Otis61
03-29-2009, 11:41 PM
Ya. FALs are nice. I like the stainless one of dvutah's.

KMURPHY
03-30-2009, 12:06 AM
Some really nice looking rifles here - used to have an STG58 years ago , traded for a G3 clone.

The L1A1 I still have , got a bit of a facelift , and currently graces the consignment rack at Fletcher`s in Waukesha ( Wi).

Shoots a lot better , after having chopped 2 1/2" of blunderbuss tube from the business end.

Ironwood Designs buttstock , PG , DSA long Browning Flash hider, HTS from that guy up in Minnesota (senior moment ! grr) Stock finish is RIT dark brown dye , hand rubbed oil , topped with a coat of Butch`s bowling alley wax.

If it wasn`t for creeping up on the rear sight , I`d shoot it more than every 2 years ...

I might stop over there to check it out!

rudrules
04-11-2009, 10:42 PM
Here is my Safe Queen SA58 DSA
with a 21'' Israeli Pattern Heavy Barrel, FN MI Hammer Forged Blanks, Chrome Lined, Threaded. High Quality Military Replacement Barrel. U.S. Made and a few other goodies I added here and there as you can see.
And she is called A Safe Queen because she is a virgin (unfired)
Im waiting to put a better FH and then I will take her to the range and brake that barrel in.

Otis61
04-12-2009, 10:27 AM
Nice rud. Where'd the barrel come from?

BIG 54R
04-12-2009, 11:04 AM
Since we are showing pictures of ours guns, I thought I post pictures of the my FN Model49s, FALs and FNC.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t308/i422twains/FALs1.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t308/i422twains/FALs2.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t308/i422twains/FALs3.jpg


Bill

uuhhh bigboy99 you my friend are a very lucky man!:kookaid::America::airtight:

You know have capt ron status!
and that's saying a mouthful!!!!:rockon::eek::thumbup:

Buelligan
04-12-2009, 11:28 AM
WHAT, OMG BIG54R you are off the chain with all of those FNs.:rockon:

rudrules
04-12-2009, 12:41 PM
Nice rud. Where'd the barrel come from?
Is From DSA

http://www.dsarms.com/21-Israeli-Pattern-Heavy-Barrel/productinfo/00121IS/

Otis61
04-12-2009, 02:45 PM
And that fit inside your handgaurds?

Nazgul
04-12-2009, 03:01 PM
And that fit inside your handgaurds?

That was my question too Otis! Nice rifle Rudy!

KMURPHY
04-16-2009, 12:13 PM
I am not done yet. Waiting on the locking shoulder. But I tried to do it myself (had lots of help, borrowing tools, headspace gauges, and the use of a lathe and plenty of advice) , and want to get it to the range, run some 7.62 through it and function test. IMBEL on DSA Type II.

cevgunner
04-17-2009, 06:18 PM
Nice STG Kevin !:rockon:

Wallymart had Federal 308 Win. for about $14 box , 150 gr softpoint - clean & consistent , about 2600 fps.

19Charlie_84
04-27-2009, 12:02 AM
Newly DuraCoated R1A1 parts kit build from Century. Tapco SAW stock/pg and DSA handguards, STG Flash hider, FN style lite bipod.

concretus
04-27-2009, 04:21 AM
Nice job! I like working with Duracoat too,,,,:coolp:

Grizzly45
04-28-2009, 01:50 PM
I picked up a bipod out of shotgun news and it works great on the barrel

cwo4uscgret
04-29-2009, 10:48 AM
http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/EBR/Fal_times_2.jpg

Yep, a repeat, but you got to love those custom FALs...21" DS Arms bull barrel...

concretus
05-05-2009, 10:09 PM
I picked this up last week, took it all down, cleaned it up, refinished the wood (I didn't take all the dings out of the wood to maintain the charater), got some U.S. parts coming; flashider, piston etc., and she's ready for a test run:

chili
05-06-2009, 09:17 PM
concretus-- now that is one nice rifle...er...carbine. Nice wood...on the rifle that is. :rockon:

concretus
05-07-2009, 08:32 AM
Thanks alot....

DaCapster
05-07-2009, 08:37 AM
not tri-lux?

rudrules
05-10-2009, 12:06 PM
concretus, the wood came out awsome, it looks like a new rifle!
Great job man.
Rudy

swissrifles1
05-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Here is my Fal... stg-58.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/jd46561/MyFal004.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/jd46561/MyFal002.jpg

Norton
05-10-2009, 07:19 PM
[QUOTE=swissrifles1;139739]Here is my Fal... stg-58.


Swiss
That is one of the best looking FALs I have ever seen, it looks perfect. The stg 58 has it all.. Wood metal, cool flash hider. The hand guards look great although I can't see using them in low temps or when you have shot 500 rds. These Germans and Austrians seem to like metal forearms

Norton
05-10-2009, 07:21 PM
Swiss one more thing How did you get that great tiger stripe grain on the buttstock to come out so clear?

KMURPHY
05-12-2009, 06:52 PM
That is one of the best looking FALs I have ever seen, it looks perfect. The stg 58 has it all.. Wood metal, cool flash hider. The hand guards look great although I can't see using them in low temps or when you have shot 500 rds. These Germans and Austrians seem to like metal forearms

I could not agree more with your description, sir.

Buelligan
05-16-2009, 07:05 AM
CONCERTUS, Wait a minet Bro . you have to step back and smell the COFFEE . You said mine is a nice FAL. Dude yours ROCKZ the house. end of story .:rockon:

Grizzly45
05-16-2009, 10:24 AM
That is really sweet, the wood is fantastic it adds a super look! Envy all over!

concretus
05-16-2009, 11:24 AM
CONCERTUS, Wait a minet Bro . you have to step back and smell the COFFEE . You said mine is a nice FAL. Dude yours ROCKZ the house. end of story .:rockon:

That one (L1A1 carbine) is gone .... I traded it yesterday for a standard bbl STG58. I found it on GB and the dealer was about an hour from me. It doesn't have F/H yet but it will soon. And a wood butt stock. I'll post pics Mon.

Buelligan
05-16-2009, 11:56 AM
CONCRETUS , I am talking about the one you have show cased with the wood set. Is that the one you traded ?????

swissrifles1
05-16-2009, 01:18 PM
Thanks for all the kind words. I got the tigerstriped stock off a board member he got it from Ironside i believe?. Here it is...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/jd46561/th_003qke.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/jd46561/?action=view&current=003qke.jpg)http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/jd46561/th_002yge.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/jd46561/?action=view&current=002yge.jpg)

concretus
05-16-2009, 02:29 PM
CONCRETUS , I am talking about the one you have show cased with the wood set. Is that the one you traded ?????


Yes Buelligan it is... I know the wood set was hard to part with, but I was Looking for the longer barrel. finding this gun was cheaper than rebarreling the L1A1. I refinished that wood set and the person I traded with said that was the selling point. It's all good though. I found a buttstock on Gunbroker to put on the StG. I dig the way they look with the metal handguards...Later I'll look for a wood pistol grip. I think the wood kind of jewels them off....:thumbup::fn-fal:

concretus
05-16-2009, 02:31 PM
CONCERTUS, Wait a minet Bro . you have to step back and smell the COFFEE . You said mine is a nice FAL. Dude yours ROCKZ the house. end of story .:rockon:

You do have a nice rifle. I think it's fine and even better that it runs good!!!

wwIIBuff
05-22-2009, 06:20 PM
My lone DSA SA58C Fal with Ironwood stocks

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/baietim/DSCF1342.jpg

chili
05-24-2009, 10:18 AM
I put this one together for my freshly retired (21 May 09) Squid friend. This is his first FAL. It has mostly South African parts (bolt, bolt carrier, lower) Argie barrel, inch rear sight to counter the higher gas block.

922r:

Entreprise receiver
Gas piston
Hammer
Trigger
Sear
Hanguards
Pistol Grip
Butt stock

Final finish on the receivers is Gun Kote matt black. I would hate to see the gloss! This was my first build on the Entreprise receiver and everything went together just fine.

chili
05-24-2009, 10:47 AM
Here is one I built about 3 or so years ago but never got around refinishing it until a week ago. I used Gun Kote matte OD green for the major parts and GK matte black for the smaller parts. Looks better in person.

wwIIBuff
05-24-2009, 10:59 AM
looks great

Norton
05-24-2009, 11:26 AM
Great looking rifles Chili :thumbup: I like the first one the best. What is that background camo from? A parachute from the 1950s. Is it an item of surplus?
A bet you didn't think anybody would ask you a question about that did you

rudrules
06-03-2009, 08:45 PM
Nice looking rifle Concretus!
The wood looks great on it.:thumbup:
Rudy

concretus
07-18-2009, 03:30 PM
I got a hold of some different wood and got a p/g from Matt @ Ironwood... Any body know wher I could get an STG 58 leather sling? :cheers:

oramoc
07-18-2009, 03:55 PM
i am looking for some stg58 slings also not long ago you could get three for like 15.00 wish i got more when i had the chance how often do we say that.

Otis61
07-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Here is one I built about 3 or so years ago but never got around refinishing it until a week ago. I used Gun Kote matte OD green for the major parts and GK matte black for the smaller parts. Looks better in person.

Chili. I like how you put the little Air Force wings, and star on the build for your squid friend. Nice build too.

chili
07-22-2009, 10:54 PM
Thanks for the kind words! I put those on most of my plastic (composite?) stock guns for no other reason than "just because". I bet they would look right at home on my M1.

For Father's Day my wife gave me some 2"x3" Don't Tread On Me flag stickers. One is on the AR15. For the rest, I think I'm gonna cut the snake out and put that on the gun stocks.

concretus: That is one sweet Stg 58 you have.

rudrules
07-26-2009, 05:12 PM
1)The first Pic is my old new Unfired with the bersa pods and Magpul PRS stock and short belgium FH!

2) The second pic is my new addition just got her yesterday with the Ergo grips and the Xstock and molded bipods and the DSA Scope mount and the Scope and the Sling.
I'm HAPPY HAPPY!

concretus
07-27-2009, 11:44 AM
Nic rifles Rud... You got to shoot them now and give us a report.......:thumbup:

Grizzly45
07-30-2009, 06:27 PM
Yes, very nice! Fine looking tools of the trade!

Noskov
08-28-2009, 06:57 PM
I don't even own a FAL but I'm surprised this thread isn't stickied. :eek:

MAK2263
08-29-2009, 10:30 AM
She's not fancy but she is totally reliable.It's an L1A1 built on an Imbel reciever.It has a Bushnell 4X12X40 mounted on Leupold rings and is a pure joy to shoot.(PS:The NHM90 lost that T6 stock and now has a Romanian folder.)

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb96/MAK2263/P1010001-3.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb96/MAK2263/FAL1-1.jpg

concretus
08-30-2009, 11:59 AM
Nice!! Is that a .308 Saiga?

MAK2263
08-30-2009, 01:39 PM
Nice!! Is that a .308 Saiga?

Yes,it's a 16" with a 3x9x40 POSP.It's a blast to shoot as long as you wear hearing protection.The muzzle blast and fireball are really spectacular!:eek:

concretus
08-31-2009, 12:08 PM
Yes,it's a 16" with a 3x9x40 POSP.It's a blast to shoot as long as you wear hearing protection.The muzzle blast and fireball are really spectacular!:eek:

How does that stock fit up w/ the scope? Do you have a good cheek weld?

MAK2263
09-01-2009, 09:16 PM
How does that stock fit up w/ the scope? Do you have a good cheek weld?

When you roll the cheekpad up you get a great cheekweld for the scope.When you roll it down you have a great cheekweld for the iron sights.

Buelligan
09-02-2009, 12:08 PM
CONCRETUS, I will take the FAL out in the next few weeks . I really like the SHOTY FALs, I might cut mine off 1 day.

Nazgul
12-19-2009, 01:04 AM
It's over...my daughter who just turned 10 wants my STG58. I knew I was in trouble when she said "Dad I'm going rapid fire!".

Beprepared
12-19-2009, 07:27 AM
A better shot of my retro SLR in Wild Geese trim.

Nicely done Norton! I love the wood and the contrast with the camo.

Black Wolf
12-23-2009, 04:35 PM
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/rterwilliger/FAL/FAL034s.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/rterwilliger/FAL/FAL026s.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/rterwilliger/FAL/FAL031s.jpg

mikeb71
01-10-2010, 01:47 PM
My FrankenFAL.

Imbel on DSA type 2 with Izzy LB furniture, Izzy forward assist, DSA Steyr short flash hider and SAW pistol grip:

http://www.bergan.us/post/fal-1.JPG

http://www.bergan.us/post/fal-2.JPG

Norton
01-10-2010, 01:59 PM
[QUOTE=mikeb71;163916]My FrankenFAL.

Imbel on DSA type 2 with Izzy LB furniture, Izzy forward assist, DSA Steyr short flash hider and SAW pistol grip:



It looks Fierce

kbar-04
02-10-2010, 03:31 PM
My Belgian 50.61 and a SAR48 built into an L1A1:


My DSA Rhodesian type FAL:

thedave8
02-11-2010, 07:26 AM
nice rifles.....i like the Land Rover too!!!!

7.62guy
03-01-2010, 03:44 PM
nice looking fal ron. i just have the one century sporter, but the fever is starting to rise.

Planning
03-01-2010, 05:26 PM
Rhodesian type FAL PARA.

i got up this morning and it was raining so i dug out another one of the para's i had stuck back in a safe to work on today.

i needed to cut the slot in the receiver for the cover nose to fit into it.

i installed some israel handguards and black pistol grip ( u.s. made) on it for now.
it was an all matching kit when i started it. ( Rhodesian kit). it has a Rhodesian folding stock. 17-3/4" barrel. ( moses cut, threaded and crowned the barrel)
stg58 style muzzle brake ( u.s. made)
falcon FCG, bolt carrier, and cover.( all u.s. made)
it has the b-b-q type paint on it for now and i will blast it and dark park it later after i make sure there is no more work to be done on it.
it's raining again, so inside pictures, not so good.
i think i still have 2 or 3 more para's to finish up someday.
(PS: ken K. did the barreling and headspace for me.)
rifle is 922r compliant
ron

Evilblackgunsrfun
03-02-2010, 09:16 PM
Planning that thing is sweet looking

MasterGunner
03-11-2010, 11:45 PM
Back in the days when FAL kits were plentiful and there were lots of aftermarket parts, I decided to replicate four Commonwealth rifles: 1) Australian L1A1 (Vietnam); 2) Australian L1A1-F1 (Papua New Guinea Defence Force); 3) British L1A1 (Falklands); 4) Canadian C1A1.

The core parts for these replicas is Australian, the Inch-receivers are from Entreprise, and the cosmetic parts are from their respective countries.

The early handguards on the Aussile L1A1 and Canadian C1A1 are part of a set from Ironwood Designs. These were modified to take the steel inserts and bushings from scrap early handguards. The conversion was very labor intensive and should not be attempted without access to a fully equipped shop.

MasterGunner
03-11-2010, 11:59 PM
Less than 5,900 L1A1-F1 rifles were produced by SAF Lithgow, New South Wales, Australia beginning in the 1970s through the end of production in the 1980s. The majority of production went to the Papua New Guinea Defence Force. The difference between the standard L1A1 and the F1 were two parts: 1) the L1A1-F1 is fitted with the short length wooden butt stock and 2) the barrel is fitted with the specialized F1 flash eliminator. Together, these parts shorten the overall lengh of the rifle by 2-3/4 inches and make it handier in the bush.

My L1A1-F1 has a set of beautifully redone laminate hanguards from GunParts guy. Assembly and final finsh was done by Sledgehammer Arms.

MasterGunner
03-12-2010, 12:22 AM
The British L1A1 rifles had the most changes to them over the years they were in-service. Early British L1A1's had wood furniture and had butt stocks in one of four lengths: 1) Short, 2) Normal, 3) Long, and 4) Extra Long. Early wooden handguards were prone to development of cracks and splits in the wood ends around the gas block. This tendency to split and crack was cured by stronger and cheaper to manufacture laminated handguards. These laminated handguards were easily recognized from earlier handguards by the three round cooling holes near the gas block (the first wooden handguards had two, oval-shaped holes).

Early in the 1970s the British began experimenting with all plastic furniture. The resultant handguards, pistol grip, butt stock, and carrying handle were made in a black plastic pebble grain called Marnyl. Plastic handguards reverted to the two oval-shaped cooling slots.

Since it was assembled and finished by Sledgehammer Arms, I have replaced the top cover of my L1A1 with an A.R.M.S. No. 3 top cover that allows the mounting of either an AN/PVS-4 starlight scope or EO Tech 512 halographic sight.

MasterGunner
03-12-2010, 12:39 AM
The Canadian C1A1 rifle is the hardest of all the Commonwealth FAL rifles to replicate. The Canadians destroyed the C1A1 barrels and lower receivers. There are a few dealers that have C1A1 parts, Marstar of Canada being the largest, and Sarco, Inc. in the USA has some too. The hardest parts to find are the solid wood C1A1 handguards (in good condition), the 600 meter folding dial sight, cast butt plate, lower sling swivel, special half-length top cover with charger clip guide, to name just a few.

Since I completed my C1A1, the Canadian parts situation has gotten worse and even Marstar is having problems with certain parts. For some strange reason know only to Canadian politicians, the ownership of either a Commonwealth or Metric-pattern FAL is not permitted (except for certain individuals with proper licenses). However, Canadians can own AR-15 type rifles and M1A/M14 type rifles. The Norico Model 305 is an affordable, reverse-engineered clone of the venerable M14.

MasterGunner
03-12-2010, 01:05 AM
The Israel light barrel FAL came into limited service with the IDF just prior to the Suez Campaign of 1956. It fought in the 1967 Six Day War and the 1973 Yom Kippur War. It was phased-out of service with the IDF in favor of the domestically-produced Galil 5.56 NATO rifle in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

My Israeli FAL was built on an Armscorp SBL Industries Ltd (Israel) Type 3 receiver. I had acquired the receiver many years previously when Armscorp first brought these rifles made from demilled parts to sell in the United States. When I decided to put it together, I decided to replicate a very early Israeli light barrel FAL. Technically, the Type 3 receiver is more correct for a late model FAL than an early version. However, the availability of parts allowed me to build a FAL similar to the ones used in the 1956 Suez Crisis.

Very early light barrel Israeli FALs used the wooden metric pistol grip. This was soon changed to the hollow plastic type that typified production post-Suez Crisis and onwards. Early FALs did not have a flash suppressor and took the FN Type A bayonet that was designed to act as flash suppressor. The Type A had two prongs brazed to the muzzle ring and the blade iself acted as a three-prong flash suppressor. These smooth-muzzle barrels took a separate rifle grenade launcher. Late model Israeli FALs had the FN-designed combination device that acted as a flash suppressor, blank fire adapter attachment, bayonet mount, and rifle grenade launcher.

MasterGunner
03-12-2010, 01:30 AM
The Austrian StG 58 FAL was made under FN license by Steyr GmbH. Austrian StG 58 rifles came with steel handguards, folding bipods, and plastic furniture. The StG 58 had the STOLL device that was designed to be a grenade launcher, blank firing adapter attachment, flash suppressor, and barbed wire cutter. The StG 58 also had a special gas cutoff for launching rifle grenades.

StG 58 butt stocks are unique that they do not have the "hump" of most Metric and Commonwealth butt stocks at the heel of the butt.

MasterGunner
03-12-2010, 01:40 AM
The German G1 FAL was very similar to the Austrian StG 58. However, the German G1 had a detachable flash suppressor that snapped-on over its smooth-muzzle. Like the StG 58, the G1 was not issued with a bayonet. It was issued with a separate snap-on rifle grenade launcher. The G1 also shared the steel handguards and bipod of the StG 58. Early G1 rifles had wooden pistol grips and later production guns used the commonplace plastic grip. The G1 butt stock had a metal ferrule that reinforced the weakest part of the butt stock where it joined the lower receiver.

MasterGunner
03-12-2010, 01:44 AM
Imbel in Brazil became a licensee of FN to produce the FAL there. The 964 rifle was adopted by the Brazilian armed forces in 1964. The rifle was produced with and without a folding bipod. This rifle replicates a late Model 964 FAL with plastic furniture and folding bipod.

MasterGunner
03-12-2010, 02:17 AM
In the early 1950s, the Army's Ordnance Corps was in the process of replacing the venerable M1 rifle with a new infantry arm. The contest came down to two rifles: 1) the product-improved M1 rifle known as the T44 built by Springfield Arsenal and 2) the FAL rifle known as the T48 designed by Fabrique Nationale in Belgium. Col. Rene Studler was the head of the Ordnance Corps and he had two major objectives: 1) get NATO to adopt the T65E3 cartridge (eventually became the 7.62x51 NATO) and 2) the T44E4 for American troops (eventually became the M14 rifle).

The other rifle in this contest was the T48. The T48 Program was overseen by the Boston Ordnance District because it would have been a conflict of interest for Springfield Arsenal to manage the Army's new rifle program when one of those rifles was its design. Early T48 rifles were purchased directly from FN for testing. Later, T48 rifles were built by High Standard and Harrington and Richardson Company.

At the end of 1956, all of the Army's and Marine Corp's tests had been completed and the T44 and T48 had battled to a draw. Springfield Arsenal advised the Secretary of the Army that it could reuse a good amount of the former M1 rifle tooling to produce the T44 as the M14. [This was later proved to be false, because the M1 tooling was too worn-out to be used and new tooling had to be procured.] However, the tooling savings was enough to tip the scales in favor of the M14 for Springfield and the T44 was type classified as the U.S. Rifle, 7.62 NATO, M14 on 1 May 1957.

My replica of the T48 represents the No. 37 FN-built variation of the rifle brought to the U.S. for trails. This rifle has the early round handguard and wooden furniture. The actual rifle did not have a stacking swivel, but I decided to use one because my barrel was cut for it.

The T48 bayonet is difficult to find and is expensive when found, I decided to use a late production FN Type A bayonet with plastic grips as a substitue. This bayonet the prongs ground off for the flash suppressor function. It did, however, fit the long Belgian-type suppressor with some minor work. T. Mark Graham of Arizona Response Systems is responsible for this exquisite replica of the American T48.

Evilblackgunsrfun
03-12-2010, 03:49 AM
Damn nice FAL's Mastergunner

Planning
03-12-2010, 06:24 AM
mastergunner, those are some really nice rifles. the fal's and L1A1's, etc. are my favorite rifles. i have a few of them.

ron

cevgunner
03-12-2010, 07:16 AM
Thank you for sharing the history behind the pictures - that allows me a greater appreciation of the work you did.

What sources did you use for the historical background?

Many thanks, for your work, and the history

cevgunner

Evilblackgunsrfun
03-13-2010, 05:47 AM
CAI STG58 Clone (R1A1)
PTR91F
CAI CETME

cwo4uscgret
03-13-2010, 07:25 PM
Mastergunner - nice; very nice. I only have three; this is the latest, an Israeli standard barrel clone, made on a DSA receiver. It was made locally here in east central Michigan (Port Huron) by a smith who goes by G2 over on the FALFILES. All three of mine have be built by him as a matter of fact. Here's a few photos of the Izzy and then another group shot:

http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/EBR/izzy_6.jpg
http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/EBR/fal_1_002.jpg
http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/EBR/izzy_12.jpg
http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/EBR/izzy_12.jpg

Family Photofun:

http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/EBR/fal_7_001.jpg
the top gun is built using an Imbel receiver from Century while the standard Imbel gun is made on what was a virgin Century R1 receiver.

MasterGunner
03-13-2010, 09:03 PM
R. Blake Steven's is the bible when it comes to the FAL. I invested $89 in the three volume set combined into the one volume. If you don't have it on your book shelf and you have a FAL of any kind, you NEED this book!

I also have old copies of W.H.B. Smith's "Small Arms of the World" and Interarms "International Armament" on my book shelf. These books are collectors items at this time.

I found a lot of information on the various Commonwealth rifles on FAL Files from various collectors and other sources. Kevin Adams from New Zealand was fabulus and shared many arcane insights into the Commonwealth FALs. Ian Skennerton has done serveral books on British and Australian SLR's (self-loading rifles). The Australian SLR FAL book has serial number ranges for L1A1, L1A1-F1, L2A1 rifles and years of production. Pat Jones is a great source of parts and information. Joe Poyer another firearms enthusiast, author, and importer gave me a lot of information on the L1A1A rifles he brought in from Australia. Tim Wind, ex-Army Special Forces, was a great source of information on the Canadian C1A1. Tim has built several C1A1 replica rifles. Kevin Adams provided a "how to" Word file that assisted me in building the C1A1 replica.

A lot of the Metric information came from Steven's FAL series, plus other contacts in Europe.

The T48 information wss assembled form many sources, including Cruffler.com. Two of my correspondents were granted access to the USMC vault at Quantico, VA where they have over 200 examples of various FAL rifles, including various T48 and T48E1 rifles among the collection. These photos were priceless and showed the development of the rifle during its trails period.

The T48 is one of my favorite FALs. Although it never made it through selection for an American main battle rifle, it has an aura about it that is hard to describe. During my quest for parts, I ran across a FAL fanatic in Belgium (!) that sold me two of the early double-diameter handguards with their front bands. One of the handguards had the screw escutcheon for the mid-handguard sling swivel and the other did not. I used the first and sold the second.

I also learned some trivia bout these early FN handguards for the T48. The ones for the standard rifle used a smaller barrel band than the handguards designed for the automatic rifle role (T48E1). The latter handguard was more robust and more heavily relieved internally to vent off the barrel heat caused by automatic fire.

Information on the Israeli FAL is rather spotty and Steven's book just scratches the surface. Fortunately, I'd purchased an SBL Industries Ltd. light barreled gun from Armscorp before they disappeared from the market. The Israeli FAL is probably the most expensive, over engineered rifle put into the hands of troops. This is probably a good thing because from what I have seen, the Israelis really beat the living daylights out of their equipment.

What's the hardest FAL replica to build? I think that would be the Dutch contract FAL. These rifles have Dutch-specific parts and I have yet to discover any of them for sale at any price. Some collectors that just must have one of the Dutch rifles, manufacture the parts from scratch!

Putting these rifles together today is just about impossible for a reasonable price. Many of the parts are no longer obtainable and the aftermarket American producers of section 922 (r) compliant parts have stopped production. I am very proud of my FAL collection and I learned a tremendous amount about the various pieces when replicating "the free world's right arm."

cevgunner
03-14-2010, 12:16 PM
Mastergunner:

Many thanks, once again. Looks like I have more books to put on my want list - I only have a copy of Duncan Long's "the FN-FAL Rifle , et al. "
and that's just enough to whet one's appetite for the main course.

I do enjoy my reading, perhaps I'll put a bug in my daughter's ear about birthday gifts...

Knowing where to begin looking may help others search for data on these tools. Tipping my hat to you, good sir!

cevgunner

KMURPHY
03-14-2010, 01:12 PM
R. Blake Steven's is the bible when it comes to the FAL. I invested $89 in the three volume set combined into the one volume. If you don't have it on your book shelf and you have a FAL of any kind, you NEED this book!



I totally agree. I received the book as a gift and it is absolutely great.

MasterGunner, I really enjoy the attention to detail that you have put in to your rifles. I really like the thumb relief cut in the receiver on the C1A1.

MasterGunner
03-14-2010, 11:11 PM
One of the small items not really noticed unless they are seen together is there are subtle differences in how Australian, British, and Canadian receivers are machined. Most of these differences stemmed from manufacturing techniques used by SAF Lithgow in Australia, Enflield or BSA in the UK, or Canadian Arsenals, Ltd. in Canada.

Of the three receiver types, the Aussie is the more elegant, followed by the Canadian, followed by the British. None of these differences affect either form, fit, or function -- they are purely visual.

A manganese phosphate (Parkerized) finish was applied to all three rifles. The Aussies went to a combination of satin black, high temperature stove paint over phosphate in the 1970s. British rifles used the P&P finish from the very first rifles. Why paint and phosphate? Because the two finishes are the toughest and longest lasting that can be applied to a firearm and provide superior corrosion resistance in hot, humid, salt air or salt water environments.

The photos below show a motage of the three receivers beginning with Aussie at the top, Brit in the middle and Canadian at the bottom.

MasterGunner
03-15-2010, 12:05 AM
During the late 1960s and early 1970s the British Army experimented with various quick reaction sights. They eventually standardized on the SUIT (Sight Unit, Infantry, Trilux). The Trilux was an optical sight that incorporated a series of roof-type prisms. Use of these prisms allowed for a shorter optical unit buy bending light around two 90-degree angles.

The Trilux optical unit had a very pronounced tapered post that projected down from the top. There was a tritium radioactive insert in the top that when a lever was turned, caused the tapered post to glow so that the sight could be used under low light conditions. The Trilux had a large, flexible rubber eye cup to protect the shooter and had a quick release lever to allow the optical unit to be installed or removed from the rifle's special top cover without loss of zero.

The cover for the Trilux optical unit had a welded-on bracket that had a latch hook attachment and a block for the elevation cam on the rifle. The sight unit itself had a lever that enabled shooting at either 300 or 600 yards by the flip of the lever.

I fitted a Trilux unit to my L1A1 replica soon after it was completed. For various reasons, I could not get used to the eye relief or get a proper stock weld to use it effectively. My Trilux unit (as shown mounted on my rifle) has a battery-powered LED installed in the top that allows the tapered sight post to glow red in low light conditions (like the original with the tritium insert).

The photos of the Trilux unit removed from the rifle is a different unit that shows a complete SUIT unit including its carrying case.

I eventually sold the SUIT and its manual to another collector. I have since replaced the original L1A1 top cover with an A.R.M.S. No. 3 cover. This cover has a built-in Mil-Std 1913 rail that allows the use of the AN/PVS-4 night vision sight or the EO Tech 512 halographic quick reaction sight. My L1A1 with the AN/PVS-4 night scope has been posted previously. I'll profile the EO Tech 512 sight in another installment.

KMURPHY
03-15-2010, 11:07 AM
Thanks for the side by side of the Commonwealth receivers. I would love to do a C1 with the Type I style cuts and the thumb releif milled into the rec. for the charger. Like on p.82 of the Stevens book. I love the different variations in machining, and as nerdy as it sounds those machining variations are why I find the FAL/SLR so interesting. Thank you for the pictures and write ups.

MasterGunner
03-15-2010, 11:21 AM
I replaced my L2A2 SUIT 1970s vintage quick-reaction sight with the more modern EO Tech 512A65 unit. The EO Tech is powered by two AA alkaline batteries. Controls are very simple. There are two brightness controls at the back of the sight; the right button turns the sight ON. The "dot-in-circle" reticle then appears in the field of view. To turn the reticle OFF, push both buttons at the same time.

My EO Tech sight was a combination package offered through GG&G. The package includes the GG&G flip-up lens caps (installed) and the GG&G single throw-lever mount (installed). All of the necessary tools for the adjustment of the EO Tech are provided in the handy plastic and foam-lined box.

Installation of the sight on my L1A1 was straight forward; I had already installed the A.R.M.S. No. 3 top cover to mount the AN/PVS-4 night vision sight. The EO Tech dropped right into place, but the single latching lever was not adjusted to allow the lever to close and latch. A quick consultation to the manual showed how to adjust the lever: 1) unscrew the retaining screw on the bottom of the lever, 2) use the Allen wrench (supplied) to move the clamp adjusting screw, 3) install the retaining screw on the bottom of the lever, 4) do closure and latching checks. That's it.

When I got the sight adjusted to my top cover, I found that the reticle was pretty well centered-up. I have not yet had a chance to check the zero of the sight, but it looks like there won't be much to do to in the windage or elevation departments.

The EO Tech 512 sight that projects a "dot-in-circle" reticle onto the optical glass of the sight. The reticle itself resembles the reticle used by the gunsights of fighter aircraft. Once the reticle is zeroed, then any misalignment of the eye behind the sight will not matter. What the reticle paints will get be hit by the rifle. Does it work? You bet it does.

Why the "dot-in-circle" reticle? Because the human eye is naturally drawn to such a reticle.

MasterGunner
03-15-2010, 12:24 PM
Here's a handy thread pitch guide I compiled while doing my L1A1 and C1A1 replica projects.

L1A1/C1A1 Thread Pitches
(All pitches are SAE or in inches)

Barrel Assembly
1. Muzzle (for flash eliminator) 9/16-24 RH
2. Chamber 1-16
3. Gas block
a. Front sight 10-40
b. Sight setscrew 8-36
c. Gas piston tube 17/32-36
4. Front sling swivel screw 8-40
5. Front handguard screw 1.25x10-32
6. Gas piston tube nut 9/16-24 RH

Upper Receiver
1. Magazine catch screw -- 10-32

Lower Receiver
1. Rear sight screws (2) 8-36
2. Pivot (hinge) pin -28 (inch)
3. Pivot (hinge) pin -32 (metric)
4. Pistol grip screw 1.25x-28
5. Trigger plate screw wood screw
6. Trigger guard screw
a. Wooden grip 8-36
b. Plastic grip wood screw
7. Recoil spring tube
a. Outside diameter 17/32-36
b. Inside diameter 15/32-36
8. Recoil spring tube screw
a. Outside diameter -- 15/32-36
b. Inside diameter -- -28
9. Frame lock lever screw 10-32


Butt Stock
1. Wood butt stock
a. Upper butt plate screw wood screw
b. Lower butt plate screw 10-32
c. Front butt stock screw wood screw
2. Plastic butt stock
a. Lower sling swivel screw 8-40
b. Butt plate screw (SHORT) 1.25x1/4-28
c. Butt plate screw (NORMAL) 1.5x1/4-28
d. Butt plate screw (LONG) 2x1/4-29
e. Butt plate screw (EXTRA LONG) 2.5x1/4-28
f. Front butt stock screw wood screw
g. Arctic butt side sling swivel screw 10-32

MasterGunner
03-15-2010, 12:45 PM
While searching through my archived files, I discovered the MS Word document by our New Zealand Commonwealth Rifle guru Kevin Adams. This document explains the "how to" of building your own C1A1 rifle.

If anyone is interested in this file, e-mail me at MasterGunner02@msn.com.

MasterGunner
03-17-2010, 11:22 PM
One of the little known variations of the FN FAL and its Commonwealth cousins is the Indian 1A1 rifle made at Ishapore Arsenal. At first glance, the Ishapore looks like a standard L1A1, but it is not. Instead, the Ishapore is a composite of both metric and inch-pattern rifles.

How did this happen? Well, during the early 1960s, the Indian Army was looking to modernize its World War 2 small arms that were mostly clones of British weapons. The Indian Army bought examples of both Commonwealth pattern L1A1 and C1A1 rifles as well as metric pattern FN FALs. The Indians then made a list of the things that they liked on both the Commonwealth and metric pattern rifles.

For whatever reason, a satisfactory licensing arrangement could not be reached with FN in Belgium on the Indian manufacture of the FAL. So, the Indians decided to "reverse-engeneer" their metric and Commonwealth test rifles. The result is that some, but not all parts of the Ishapore 1A1 rifles can interchange as assemblies with either metric or Commonwealth parts. However, there are parts that are unique to Ishapore rifles only and do not fit either metric or Commonwealth rifles.

Here are Ishapore-unique parts: 1) butt plate and screws; 2) butt swivel and screws; butt stock and reinforcement ferrule; 3) lower receiver; 4) barrel with gas block; 5) rear shight assembly (aperture is shorter than L1A1); and 6) front sight parts. Most other parts of metric or Commonwealth origin can interchange with Ishapore parts as assemblies.

The good news is that Ishapore and Aussie, Brit, and Canadian inch-pattern magazines interchange. The only difference is the markings on the Ishapore magazines and that they are 1/4-inch longer than those of the ABC countries.

Ishapore rifle slings follow those of the British pattern -- webbing with hooks on both ends -- the difference is the Ishapore slings are slightly wider than the Commonwealth issue. Isapore bayonets also interchange with Commonwealth bayonets. The difference is the Indian patter have wooden grips held on with screws and Commonwealth bayonets are all steel with riveted grips. Indian bayonets for the 1A1 rifles come in two lengths: 1) the same length as the Commonwealth and a longer (about 2 inches longer) variant. Finish on Indian bayonets is a black phosphate or black oxide coating.

The following photos show actual Ishapore 1A1 rifle part details and rifle (photos 1 through 4). The 5th photo and subsequent photos show a replica 1A1 rifle built from an Ishapore 1A1 parts kit. On the replica, the strange lettering on the butt stock in white is the rack number of the rifle in Bengali.

MasterGunner
03-17-2010, 11:44 PM
The Indian 1A1 rifle as built by Ishapore Arsenal uses a copy of the Commonwealth inch-pattern 20-round magazine. This magazine is easily recognized from its metric equivalent by its prominent latching lug silver soldered or brazed to the front of the magazine body.

Although Indian magazines resemble the other Commonwealth pattern equivalents, they are actually 1/4 longer in the body. This does not affect form, fit, or function of the magazine when used in Australian, British, or Canadian rifles. Indian pattern magazines also carry distinctive markings that easily identify them to their origin. The following photos show the marking location on various production batches of magazines for the 1A1.

All Commonwealth bayonets and Indian bayonets will interchange between the different nation's rifles. The Indian bayonets are quickly identified by their screwed-on wooden grips and black finish. In the phtos below of the various bayonets, the Australian is at the top, followed by the British, followed by the Canadian, and the Indian is last.

bladeworks123
04-29-2010, 11:29 PM
Just finished putting it together tonight....Coonan type III receiver, DSA barrel, headspaced by Global Gunsmithing...Thanks Ken:rockon::rockon::rockon:
DSA rail cover, Coonan stainless piston, US fcg parts and safety. Have a matching green SAW style PG coming. All the other parts were blasted and mag parked. I am super happy with the way it went together and came out....

Evilblackgunsrfun
04-29-2010, 11:35 PM
Very nice

cevgunner
04-30-2010, 07:16 AM
That is fantastic! That's got to be the best looking FAL I've seen in a while.. :cheers::cheers: