Cetme Manuals - Updated 26 Sep 2010

[M1 Tanker]

Here is the original Spanish Cetme Manual in english. Its free, so don't let me catch ya selling it on Ebay :)

You need acrobat reader from www.adobe.com to view it.

Spanish Cetme Manual (http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/manual/2.pdf)

MARS Cetme Manual (http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/manual/3.pdf)

SAR8 Manual (http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/manual/4.pdf)

[drhall762]

Thank you. You are most certainly a gentleman and a scholar.

Dave:D

[brewskzilla]

This was very useful. Thank you.

[Rldr7]

Thank You, very useful!

[Smokehouse69]

Here's another Cetme Manual.

Another Cetme Manual (http://www.smokehouse69.com/Another%20Cetme%20Manual.pdf)

This is the Mars CETME manual.

[grifter95]

I noticed on page 26 there is a typo in the photo descriptions. It seems that the safe and semi-auto positions were reversed. Not a big deal unless the person thinks their weapon in safe and violates the no finger on trigger rule and bang.
P.S. Thanks for the manual. Great aid!

[Snowman]

Big help THXS!:airtight:

[-COK-]

It still gets to me how beautiful those mag loaders are.
Great linkey BTY/TYVM

signed,
NUMB THUMBS. :wink:

d

[jbruney]

Copied and saved...Thanks for your efforts.

[Planning]

thanks:thumbup:

[commandrcody]

I just love having a lot of reference material around...Thx

[Brian O]

Here's another Cetme Manual.

Another Cetme Manual (http://www.smokehouse69.com/Another%20Cetme%20Manual.pdf)

This is the Mars CETME manual.

Every time I try that link qwest says it's not there. Any body else having this problem?

[cma g21]

Every time I try that link qwest says it's not there. Any body else having this problem?

Same here, the sever appears to be down.

BTW, this is a better alternative (IMHO) to Adobe for viewing .pdf files:

http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/reader-interstitial.html

[holyfire]

On the next to the last page of this manual there is a ballistics table for the Nato round. I don't understand the ANGLES columns. What units are these in? I understand drop but what is projection? Also in the 5th and 6th columns it lists ELEMENTS OF THE VERTICES OF THE TRAJECTORY. I do not know what that is. Anyone able to explain this to me?
Thanks.
Bill

[Buddymack]

Thanks a lot, this will come in handy saved to the laptop.

[bladeworks123]

On the next to the last page of this manual there is a ballistics table for the Nato round. I don't understand the ANGLES columns. What units are these in? I understand drop but what is projection? Also in the 5th and 6th columns it lists ELEMENTS OF THE VERTICES OF THE TRAJECTORY. I do not know what that is. Anyone able to explain this to me?
Thanks.
Bill

I've always found that chart fascinating but somewhat amusing. I imagine, in my twisted mind, a platoon of Spanish soldiers who are ballistic scientists trying to shoot something at 1,000 meters, based on 50% relative humidity (higrometric state), and at 755 mm of mecury barometric pressure. Very similar to the image I have of Chinese soldiers, hunkered down in a hole trying to open a huge galvanized sardine can full of ammo with a pair of pliers whilst in the middle of an intense fire fight....but I digress.

Anyway, here goes my best try from ballistics class from almost 30 years ago, and keep in mind I was probably hung over that day.....Hopefully some other younger more mathematical member here will jump in. I am asssuming that the entire chart is metric, and that the bullet drop and projection is listed as mm in thousands or centimeters. The angle of projection would indicate the angle of the bore in relation to the rifle being sighted in at each particular range given, so for example, at 1,000 meters the muzzle of the barrel would need to be elevated 18.2 centimeters. The angle of drop would be the impact below the straight line of the muzzle. The chart does not indicate any sight in range or benchmark for the rifle, so it appears to only be ballistic characteristics of the round.

The elements of the vertices of the trajectory do not indicate what unit of measure they are in, but basically they refer to the arc of the bullet at those particular ranges. So at 500 meters, If you were to draw an x-y chart that was 268 whatevers long, the arc of trajectory would drop .85 whatevers in that distance. If you were good at this sort of thing, and I'm not, you would be able to chart the trajectory or angle of the path of the bullet based on the measurements given, and know what angle the bullet would impact the target from. Now I need a shot, of whatever......

So basically what I am trying to tell you is.....the chart is pretty much worthless for using for anything other than a complicated math lesson, or else it lost a lot in the translation from spanish to 'merican english.

The only bit of information that means anything to me from that chart is that if you are shooting at something 1 meter in diameter, 1000 meters away, anything within a 30 meter radius would be in danger of being hit.....

You would be well served to erase that page and substitute a NATO ballistics chart.

Somebody else want to try this one????

[Perro Del Diablo]

The elements of the vertices of the trajectory do not indicate what unit of measure they are in

Ramone translated most of this manual

i can tell you that the chart is in METERS in that category

the original manual has the words
abcisas in metros for the left column, and ordenadas in metros for the right column

abcisa is basically like saying horizontal
ordenada is basically like saying vertical

[bladeworks123]

Thanks Mike, so that answers the whatevers, I assumed it was probably in meters just because that matches what you might expect. Even still, when you look at this chart and compare it to say for instance 7.62 white box, the chart here shows a little more flat shooting cartridge, so that was why I questioned what else may have been on the chart. I really expected that it might say a tolerance like plus or minus "x" meters. That is very interesting.....Thanks!

[holyfire]

OK, thanks for the explanation....I guess....

Think I'll go shooting in the morning. Will have to use the bolt action 308 though, the Cetme is down waiting on trigger parts. Since I already printed this chart out and it appears I won't be using it maybe I can draw a circle on the back and tack it up at 300 yards......

Later,
Bill

[thor32382]

This was a lifesaver! It was certainly more useful than the one I got from Century arms. Thank you very much!:sparta:

[Vagabond]

Every time I try that link qwest says it's not there. Any body else having this problem?
This link still seems to be broken, any other links for the mars cetme?

[M1 Tanker]

Mars Cetme and SAR8 manuals added to first post. They are hosted here and work fine.

[JordiAMX]

Thank you.:thx::thumbup:

[jimbeaux82]

Many thanks!!