ejection lever problems?

[Karl E. Hungus]

allright soo...

on my initial firing, my cetme had an ejection problem, around every 10 rounds(i say "around" because it seems to be random, and i really havent had the chance run enough ammo through it to get a straight idea.) the gun fails to eject correctly, it pretty much ran through the gamut of different types, too.

its stovepiped, didnt correctly charge a new round, and a few times it didnt eject at all and tried to ram a new round in along with the spent case.

the rifle has a BG of .008 and i have parts in the mail that should get it back up to nominal, and i should also mention that i basically fired it directly after getting it from the shop, and the gunsmith at the shop may have lubed it incorrectly. since then ive cleaned/degreased and applied a better lube job. unfortunately i havent been able to fire it again BUT....

when i removed the trigger pack, i noticed that the see-saw ejection lever was a bit "wobbly". it's side to side is pretty bad, up and down is not as bad but noticeable. could that be part of the problem? or for that matter all of it? the lever still tracks well when the action is moved but i dont know how much play is too much... considering its just a thin piece of stamped metal.

anyhow, how do i fix that? and if i have to buy some more parts, do i make sure they are us made?

any ideas?

thanks in advance as usual.

[hunter_la5]

i began to have stovepipes when my bolt gap got too low. is your bolt head ground or unground? if it is ground, perhaps you have lower gap than you think. that is what happened to me. as soon as I replaced the bolt head and +4 rollers, it is ejecting great again.

[Perro]

the ejector lever is supposed to be wobbley left and right

take your magazine out of the rifle
flip the rifle upside down so you are looking inside of the magwell

pull your bolt back with the cocking handle and look to see how close the ejector lever is from touching the bottom of the bolt head with the ejector lever flush with the face of the bolt head

it needs to be touching - if its not, shim the pack up a bit

[jfowl31]

Im with Perro, and if you cant shim much, you can replace the ejector with one from makarov.com

Century ground and/or bent some of the ejectors to get the rifles to work sometimes, and aparently they did it a tad too much on some rifles.

your choice though, shim the pack, or just buy a new ejector.

how far are the shells that do eject going? Mine chunks em about 30' or so, and yours should get close to that if everythings times right and in the right spot.

[Karl E. Hungus]

to answer your questions...

no i dont have a ground bolt, after reading all the posts here and on the surplusrifle forums i made sure of that. so im fairly sure my BG is really .008.

and when it deos eject correctly they do go flying forward and to the right about 20-30 feet. when its workin its actually consistant at that, so its easy to tell when something goes wrong.

i will try what you said, perro, thanks alot. hopefully ill get this thing sorted out once and for all.

[mprtech]

30'?? Damn my CETME must be broke. :blink2: I only get like 15', still way to far in front of the firing line to worry about though. As if you could reload my brass anyway.:wohow:

Heed Perro's advice, sounds like a ejector height problem.

[mprtech]

Also I'd recommend at least measuring your rollers. A cheap mic and 5 minutes and you can find out if you can + size your CETME, priceless...

[SSwee]

I had the same problem with mine, .006" gap, while trying to shoot commercial ammo. Mine was also extremely dirty in the trunion area that the bolt head goes into.
SS

[texlurch]

That is a good question, what kind of ammo are you shooting? Being as random as you say it is, could be ammo related.

Also, have you cleaned the chamber flutes real good?

The gun is basically a blowback, so if the shell sticks in the chamber at all, it will slow it down enough that the ejection gets all screwed up.

[Karl E. Hungus]

at the time the only thing i could get my hands on was commercial remington, i was hyped to fire my new rifle i guess. i definitely wont ever be doing that again though considering how much bank i needed just to buy 2 boxes. ouch. not only that but i heard about major problems with commercial ammo after the fact.

also ive cleaned the flutes very well as specified in other posts. and when they were ejecting the shells did have the ol' cetme pinstriping on them so i dont think that was the problem. i was actually worried for a second since i had never fired a rifle like it before and seen that.

also, im looking at the ejector levers on makarov.com right now. i may as well get one or two considering they are only 6 bucks, as for the 2 styles go, the small hole is where the spring goes i assume, is there any difference other than that? just trying to make sure i get the right one.

[texlurch]

It this point I wouldn't worry about the lever, just try some NATO spec ammo and see if it runs consistently. Sounds more like it had some case swelling and sticking, and the rifle itself is fine.

Not familiar with the ones they have, maybe one is G3 and other is CETME.

[jfowl31]

+1 about just shooting some NATO ammo and checking it out... i you want spares on hand go for it, but id try it out before installing anything to determine exactly what was wrong.

the different ones are for I believe the modelo b and modelo c

just look at the ejector you have and duplicate it as far as where the holes are... if they are in the wrong spot, you can always drill a new one, no big deal.