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Jagman
04-18-2007, 07:22 PM
Heres a 5 min. vid. on a flourishing gun trade and manufacturing center in the mountains between pakistan and Afghanistan.
Look out for the kids reloading ammo - hi tech stuff.
Jagman
http://www.glumbert.com/media/gunmarket

Norton
04-18-2007, 07:33 PM
That was facinating, I wish I could dig thru that rack of Lewis LMGs or the pile of muskets. But that kid reloading AK rounds with a mallet was to much for my brain. Thanks for the vid post I will pass it on.

Tread_Head
04-18-2007, 07:40 PM
One JDAM followed by a 500lb cluster bomb and that problem is solved. :plane:

BTW: I wouldn't want to fire those handmade auto-weapons, especially the handmade bullets (squib load anyone)! I've seen more than one Haji w/a blown up hand from poorly manufactured/maintained weapons.

nevada
04-18-2007, 07:51 PM
Gun control takes on its true meaning there. Good link!

M1 Tanker
04-18-2007, 07:56 PM
I think that's where the importer found my mortar....

1 Ranger Bat and some Air support :terrorist:

kevin
04-18-2007, 09:33 PM
i think ill pass on the ammo but how about a group buy on the rifles and pistols, especially those pistols if they are nazi marked:)

Schmitty
04-18-2007, 10:05 PM
Wow, that's amazing in a lot of ways.

bullseye
04-19-2007, 12:06 AM
one thing comes to mind..exchange student. we need some exchange students from there to help out at build parties and we can send them some kids to learn to build to keep our future build parties going. :)

Otis61
04-19-2007, 06:08 AM
And I'll bet they've been doing that all winter long. After the spring thaugh they'll be down the moutain shooting at our guys again in places they don't expect.

cimmaronkid
04-19-2007, 08:59 AM
I see Century has some competition!

In all seriousness, this is not new. The Dafaar region has been producing arms for many years. One of their favorite to build used to be the Enfield bolt action rifles and if someone did a search you would find pictures of those kid's grandfathers filing to shape an enfield action. It has always been a large arms market area and a spot where arms were easily attainable by anybody. Soldier of Fortune did a piece on these people many years ago. If the truth be known, there is probably more collector arms there than can be imagined. The artillery lugers were a good example.

okie shooter
04-19-2007, 09:00 AM
These guys have been makeing guns and ammo, I imagine since the days of brown bess muzzleloaders and martni henry rifles were carried by the british to today. Many are good and many are bad, just they make what they want due to the cheap labor.

Geilt
04-19-2007, 09:52 AM
ok, so now we know two things...

1) Don't shoot Indian 7.62x51 ammo
2) Don't shoot Pakistani 7.62x39 ammo made by little kids with mallets

okie shooter
04-19-2007, 10:38 AM
ok, so now we know two things...

1) Don't shoot Indian 7.62x51 ammo
2) Don't shoot Pakistani 7.62x39 ammo made by little kids with mallets

Ya that would be right, but if I had some made there by the little kids, for me it would be a nice collectable.

Heck whats the difference in the kid there, and some one here with a the lee hand loaders that you hit with mallets too. Didnt some one here say they were going to train the kids to run the reloaders anyway. :)

Geilt
04-19-2007, 01:24 PM
With enough kids you could get a nice assembly line going. Give em all progressive presses, a constant feed of materials and the occasional nap... ammo prices would go back to where they were a few years back inside of a month.

Advertising would look like some sort of Christian Childrens Fund;

"This is little Mohammed. He's helping arm the free world but doesn't have a decent reloading press. He's forced to used a 60 year old rubber mallet and a block of steel from a burned out T-72 tank. For as little as $1 a day you can help him, and countless others like him, keep ammo cheap."

SteelCore
04-19-2007, 03:00 PM
thanks for the link.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

weasel_master
04-19-2007, 03:16 PM
Not only are kids a tax right off, they're cheap labor as well. I better get started on a family.

Fido Dog
04-19-2007, 06:31 PM
I wonder if there's any JOB OPENINGS!!!

Very in interesting indeed.

turbothis
04-19-2007, 08:03 PM
:087: sweet jesus this is one of the best threads i have ever read on here.

Fido Dog
04-19-2007, 08:04 PM
:087: sweet jesus this is one of the best threads i have ever read on here.

No Sh!t!!!!!:D

Norton
04-19-2007, 08:17 PM
With enough kids you could get a nice assembly line going. Give em all progressive presses, a constant feed of materials and the occasional nap... ammo prices would go back to where they were a few years back inside of a month.

Advertising would look like some sort of Christian Childrens Fund;

"This is little Mohammed. He's helping arm the free world but doesn't have a decent reloading press. He's forced to used a 60 year old rubber mallet and a block of steel from a burned out T-72 tank. For as little as $1 a day you can help him, and countless others like him, keep ammo cheap."

OK you sold me.. I want to help that poor child with the mallet just a RCBS press , good set of 7.62x39 dies and a set of callipers. Thsi vid needs to shown to the entire reloading community.
:lol2:

Jagman
04-19-2007, 08:58 PM
I keep wondering how the old guy lost his tongue, accidentally shot it off in a fluke mis-hap?
:popcorn:
Jagman

Fido Dog
04-19-2007, 09:23 PM
I keep wondering how the old guy lost his tongue, accidentally shot it off in a fluke mis-hap?
:popcorn:
Jagman

That would be my SECOND guess........:icon_wink:

RandyCOG3
04-19-2007, 10:02 PM
one thing comes to mind..exchange student. we need some exchange students from there to help out at build parties and we can send them some kids to learn to build to keep our future build parties going. :)

It would never work, because their heads would explode when we tried to explain the concept of a "parts count" to them. Or WHY there's a MB instead of a flash-hider on the business end of certain weapons, or perhaps nothing at all.
Or single-stack AK's.

Nice movie, thanks for the link.:popcorn:

RandyCOG3

turbothis
04-19-2007, 10:07 PM
oh my god single stack would destroy them alllllllllll.........wtf! is this single stack? they would ask each other.

Geilt
04-20-2007, 12:14 PM
It would never work, because their heads would explode when we tried to explain the concept of a "parts count" to them.

Heck, quality control would be a foreign concept to them.

The 922r piece is easy to address. All we do is provide them with the parts. Parts is parts after all. I don't think they'd care too much where they were made. Although they may be confused by using NEW parts and not 30 year old pitted steel components.

Geilt
04-20-2007, 12:30 PM
I keep wondering how the old guy lost his tongue, accidentally shot it off in a fluke mis-hap?

I think it was cut out by an eight year old after the old guy was talking smack about his work.

<< as translated from the original Pakistani >>
Aaban (old tongueless guy): Mohammad, you hairless camel scrotum. How many times must I tell you to deburr the case mouth after trimming?

Mohammad (8 year old with his rubber mallet): But sir all I have is this rubber mallet and a block of steel.

Aaban: I don't want to hear any more excuses. Check your cartridges OAL when you're done too. We're getting reports that your rounds aren't feeding properly either.

Mohammad: Of course sir, what would you like me to use to measure them?

Aaban: Use this piece of straw.

(Mohammad looks at his mallet, his nice new piece of straw and then back up at Aaban)
Mohammad: Sir may I please use you knife to trim other pieces of straw for the others?

(Aaban hands over his knife with disgust for the little boy)

Mohammad: INFIDEL!!!
(Mohammad and ten other little kids jump the old man and cut his tongue out)

turbothis
04-20-2007, 12:40 PM
haha, i love on the movie "hostel" how the kids run the streets.

Woodman in MO
04-20-2007, 02:19 PM
I'd guess the tongue was his first 'write up' for performance issues.

iocane
04-20-2007, 05:27 PM
Kids being cheap labor, many who grow up on a farm learn kids can do a lot of work. Unfortunately they learn this by being the kid who does the lot of work.

RandyCOG3
04-20-2007, 06:07 PM
..wtf! is this single stack? they would ask each other.

"That's it, I QUIT. I've seen everything now. I can fix your musket or harquebus, but you can just shove this thing, 'cause I ain't working on it. "

RandyCOG3