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bullseye
04-19-2007, 10:37 PM
Pulled this from an article:
The MSN-Zogby poll found that 59 percent of Americans do not believe stricter gun control policies would have prevented Cho Seung-Hui from killing 32 people and then himself in the worst mass murder in America's history. The poll found that only 36 percent of those polled believe stronger gun control could have prevented the shootings.

Meanwhile, a gun advocacy group, the Second Amendment Foundation, issued this statement: "80 million law-abiding gun owners in this country did not go to Virginia Tech or some other college campus yesterday to unleash carnage. They have harmed no one, and their civil rights should not be erased in response."

According to 2004 statistics, the most recent available, of all the deaths in the U.S. more than 11,500 were from gun-related homicides, and 16,750 people committed suicide by firearm. There's no official count of the number of guns in America, but one survey estimates that the number is 192 million.

Still, more than half (53 percent) of the younger adults say increased gun control won't help, an opinion that becomes increasingly popular as adults get older. Nearly three in four (72 percent) of those age 65 and older didn't think tighter gun control policies will prevent shootings.

And I lie the one from the brady bunch:
"We're all in a state of shock and very sad at what happened," says Daniel Vice, senior attorney for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. "Now is not the time to be raising political questions, but soon our country will have to ask why do we make it so easy for dangerous people to get access to these high firepower weapons. … What we're doing now certainly is not working. We have very weak gun laws, and 32 people plus the gunman were killed in this shooting. But 30 people are killed in gun homicides every day."

Last sentence said it all. Hey, 30 people are killed every day, what made this one special? Seemed to me like he was saying so, folks get killed every day, what's new? Here's a link for the article. http://men.msn.com/articlepollgc.aspx?cp-documentid=4732850&gt1=9311

MID
04-20-2007, 12:11 AM
Just in case anybody was wondering. Where some of these numbers can be found.

They can be found here.
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_sy.html
just load up how the death can take place and it will output the number of recorded deaths that happend in the selected year, based off of the parameters you enterd.

And like the artical says. Over half the gun related deaths are self inflicted homicides ( suicides).


Now on to the lawyers comment.

This whole incident happend because the people entrusted the government with their safety. The government dropped the ball AGAIN. So now he wants to take more "burden" (read rights )off the public, and give the government greater responsibility. Doesnt this seem backwards? They cant handle their current job, so lets give them more?


And the 30 people die by guns each day. Ok 1 death is a bad thing.
Well if he only wants to save peoples lives, he should start with the greatest offenders and work his way down to the lesser offenders.

29,569 people died from firearms.
And as i mentioned 16,750 are suicides. So we can subtract that form the total because those poeple will find another way to kill them selfs. So that leaves 12846 deaths from firearms.
So he better start banning people because they kill them selfs more then criminals do.

Ok, now automoblies kill
45,113 people in 04 .

Or 30,308 people got poisoned that year.
MAby we should require people to have a background check before buying cleaning products. And why would anybody need a whole gallon of any one product at any one time. So no more high capacity product containers.

Oh no, no more plastic bags.
Cause they are more deadly then a firearms. They killed 14,043 people in 2004.

SteelCore
04-20-2007, 10:02 AM
..man, I love those guys. Whatta group.

Also, yes..the libs like to use emotive shock backed up by statistics, bcuse the #s sound bg until you divide the # by the US population...about 300mil. And like you said, other things are waaay more responsible for deaths annually than firearms (at least in the US...all bets are off in Africa as they have been for 30 yrs, especially, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Nigeria, Somalia...etc)