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Tread_Head
04-23-2007, 07:56 PM
Anyone know a good bore cleaner that breaks up carbon/copper build-up in rifle barrels? Some of my rifles I bought have good rifling, but I run 10-15 patches soaked in Hoppes #9 and they still come out black/bluish/green. Is there anything I can spray down the barrel that will break all this stuff up in 1 or 2 shots? Thanks.

Smokehouse69
04-23-2007, 10:50 PM
I'm interested too. I've been swabbing the bore of my CMP Garand for two days and it still comes out dirty. I've used Hoppe's Bench Rest 9 and some old G96 Nitro Solvent.
My commission 88 barrel was easier to clean than the Garand.

Teyvareb
04-23-2007, 11:04 PM
For the tough ones, or the ones used extensively, like the Yugo captured Mauser, I used Birchwood-Casey Bore Scrubber. It's ridiculously potent though, as in the whole house will reek of it to people with good noses, but it does the trick. Soak a patch, run it through, let it sit, and scrub with a brush, it'll come out wicked clean. Oh, if you have a steel or new plastic brush, use it. It'll kinda eat brass ones, but not too bad. Removes copper, lead, powder, probably a bit of the barrel... Good stuff. I believe they have a foam type cleaner too, might be something to look into.

vair65
04-23-2007, 11:32 PM
Outers Foaming Bore Cleaner works great, I have a Yugo M70 barrel that was a sewer pipe and it cleaned it out real nice, took a lot of cleanings but it worked good. A ton of blue, black crap everytime I cleaned it. When I shoot corrosive, I clean with a few hot water patches and then use it and the bore's are perfect! CLP then done.

NavajoNPaleFace
04-23-2007, 11:40 PM
I use Birchwood Casey Bore Scrubber.

There might be something out there just as good though.

Jacobite
04-24-2007, 12:14 AM
Try Wipe Out foam cleaner. Don't get it on the wood though it will remove oil finishes.

Longhorn789
04-24-2007, 08:29 AM
Foaming bore scrubber is good, but messy.

When I get a really nasty milsup that has been in storage for a million years, I foam the bore, let it work for a few hours, then go to the Hoppes until the patches come back clean.

Good also to clean the chamber real good after the foam so that you're not dragging gunk back thru the bore.

M1 Tanker
04-24-2007, 08:38 AM
Break Free Foaming Bore cleaner is better then Outers or Slick in my opionion. I use that and the Birchwood Casey Bore Scrubber.

I also use a homemade electronic bore cleaner that was easy to make.

And of course, SWEET'S 7.62 BORE CLEANER which is the best stuff I've ever used. Brownwells sells it.

XO3319
04-24-2007, 08:52 AM
Outers Foul Out III to get get rid of copper fouling

I mix up a gallon of Ed's Red for the best bore cleaner

1 part Kerosene
1 part odorless mineral spirits
1 part acetone
1 part Dextron III Automatic Transmission Fluid

you can also add Lanolin if you are in a moisture rich enviornment (by the shore)

nevada
04-24-2007, 10:48 AM
I haven't tried the Birchwood-Casey stuff, sounds good. But I have used the flashlight version of Foulout with good success. one steel rod, a cheap flashlight, some wire, a bore plug and two alligator clips.

M1, do you recall what the liquid formula is for this? I know ammonia is used.

Just for removing lead a 50/50 mix od hydrogen peroxide and white vinegar for ten minutes works great. No electrics required, plug one end of the bore and pour the mixture in, pour out in ten minutes.

Pics of the flashlight results below.

GreenWolf
04-24-2007, 10:56 AM
Shooter's Choice Quick Scrub III foaming bore cleaner is great stuff. I use that for an initial 10 minute application of a dirty barrel. My standard stuff is Ed's Red and Sweets 7.62.

M1 Tanker
04-24-2007, 10:56 AM
I used a old A/C Phone charger instead of a flashlight. I clip one clip to the front sight and one to the rod...just make sure the rod isn't touching the barrel. I have a rubber plug and a half of a rubber oring on the other. They work awesome.

2 parts Water
1 part White Vinegar
1 part Ammonia

If you want to make one, read here.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews/copperout/index.asp

Perro
04-24-2007, 02:43 PM
i second the electronic bore cleaner

nothing fancy is needed

1/8 inch steel rod - available at home depot or lowes in the metal bin
about 20 1/8 inch ID O rings - also available at home depot in plumbing
a bore plug for the chamber end - or even a cork of some sort - brownells sells these
an old cell phone wall wart charger
a couple alligator clips

use the mixture on the link above

works great - less than $10.00 and lasts a LONG time

after a couple treatments of the electronic cleaner, then brush it, and swab it with sweets 762

after its truly clean, i use the foaming bore cleaner followed by sweets, and then a patch or two of breakfree CLP to protect the bore - patch the bore just before shooting it again.


the electronic bore cleaner really does work really well
the foaming bore cleaners real do work really well
sweets really does work really well
and CLP is the best preservative in MY opinion


thats what works for me

Jacobite
04-24-2007, 03:54 PM
I have to quit being lazy and make one of those electric bore cleaners. I have old chargers laying all over the place. If I just had any electrical ability.........LOL.

Smokehouse69
04-24-2007, 08:23 PM
I used baking soda and water with a thin steel rod down the barrel. Make sure you clip the positive lead to the rod if you are trying to derust a bore. I used this method to clean the bore of a rusty 71/84. It did a great job.
I gotta picture somewhere of it somewhere. Never thought of doing it for a dirty barrel.

Tread_Head
04-24-2007, 08:46 PM
While we are on this topic...I committed a cardinal sin this weekend. I shot my 98K w/corrosive ammo and forgot to clean it for two days. :stupids: This evening I picked it up and saw light rust in the barrel. I promptly ran about 30 patches soaked in Hoppes #9 until they came out fairly clean. Then I ran a wire brush down the bore a couple of times followed by dry patches. I repeated the same process w/bore cleaner and then CLP. The patches now come out clean, but is there anything else I can do? I really doubt two days of light rust will cause real damage, but I want to be 100% sure. thanks.

kevin
04-24-2007, 08:55 PM
i found out that the tough bore brushes brownells sells are much better than the regular old bore brushes

the wire is stiffer and doesnt reduce in diameter over time like the other brushes. Ive been getting bores cleaner now since they are really tight in the bore.

XO3319
04-25-2007, 11:50 AM
Jacobite I 2nd that emotion

I tried making one of the home-made ones but eventually went the Outers Foul Out route

I swear by

Ed's Red to start
then Kroil and JB Bore Bright
then Ed's Red

Foaming for really bad bores followed by a boresnake in appropriate caliber

then Ed's Red to finish

Jacobite
04-25-2007, 04:12 PM
Jacobite I 2nd that emotion

I tried making one of the home-made ones but eventually went the Outers Foul Out route

I swear by

Ed's Red to start
then Kroil and JB Bore Bright
then Ed's Red

Foaming for really bad bores followed by a boresnake in appropriate caliber

then Ed's Red to finish

XO3319,
I was actually jokeing. I figured Perro would pick up on it. I am a journeyman wireman, member of I.B.E.W. Local #5. I am just too lazy to gather up the stuff and put it together.

XO3319
04-25-2007, 05:25 PM
Jacobite

I wasn't. I'm very industrious about picking the stuff up but too stupid to be able to wire it together! :(

rustypirate
04-25-2007, 06:24 PM
I made a couple of the electronic cleaners, one for me and one for Warty. Of course I had to make them super-delux and not just thrown togeather, so they wound up costing about $30 each, but they are adjustable on the voltage and have connectors for all the wires so you can unplug everything.

Here is a photo of mine:
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1072/cleaner3au5.jpg