Navel Jelly for barrel?

[WildBillCody]

Anyone tried this? I have a yugo SKS that has a bore that looks like a sewerpipe, it couldn't hurt it, but i wonder if it would help at all?

[7.62guy]

as you said i don't see where it could hurt it if it is that bad. can't tell you to try it ,as i have never done it. maybe some one has. if you do let us know how it works out for you.:thumbup:

[oilhead]

'Naval Jelly' is nothing more than a viscous solution of Phosphoric Acid. The exact percentage escapes me at the moment but it will burn your skin if you let it. It's also messy to use. Much easier to make a 8:1 mixture of water and molasses, plug your barrel, pour the stuff in, and let it sit for three or four days. Disclaimer; My way stinks like bejesus so if you value your marriage etc. etc. etc.........

Will it help? No, but at least you'll be able to see what lies under the crud:thumbup:

[hunter_la5]

I don't think that navel jelly will be very useful for anything besides making your barrel completely disgusting, but naval jelly might help. :icon_razz:

I don't know about you, but my body can't even produce enough navel jelly to coat a rifle barrel...

[Buelligan]

One of my 91/30s was rusted from not cleaning it with the right stuff after shooting corrosive ammo. I used naval jelly in it with a good wire brush and now it is fine . I even used a mild metal polish on a cleaning patch to brighten it up after the rust was removed.

[WildBillCody]

I don't think that navel jelly will be very useful for anything besides making your barrel completely disgusting, but naval jelly might help. :icon_razz:

I don't know about you, but my body can't even produce enough navel jelly to coat a rifle barrel...

Thanks Hunter for the correction :)
Maybe some toe cheese as well..

Thanks B, I'm going to try it, how did you polish the inside? what didi you use...

[Anthropy]

If you can find some Kroil, I would use that instead. It is a wicking penetrating oil. My buddy who shoots 50 cal said that some use it to remove copper as it gets behind the copper to release it, but it does stink a bit. It is not corrosive.

[okie shooter]

Have you tried electrical reduction? We used to have a thread on useing a cheap phone charger, a steel rod, a rubber plug, some o-rings and a mild acid to clean off copper. For some reason I think that M1 did one a while back and said it came out good.

[Buelligan]

I think some thing like FLITZ polish . I first ran very hot water in it and ran a cleaning brush on a rod in and out to knock off the crud. Then dried it with with cleaning patches. Then I filled the bore with naval jelly. I let it sit longer the the instructins said . I may have dosed it a few times, then ran the bore brush in and out in between the sessions . When I was happy with it I the put the metal polish on a patch and ran it in and out changing patches untill I was happy with it. Then I oiled the hec out of it. That was a few years ago and it still looks ok.

[WildBillCody]

Have you tried electrical reduction? We used to have a thread on useing a cheap phone charger, a steel rod, a rubber plug, some o-rings and a mild acid to clean off copper. For some reason I think that M1 did one a while back and said it came out good.

It's not copper fouling, it's rust, I filled the bore with Hoppes copper solvent and let it sit for 24 hours, I ran a brush and patch through it and nothing came out blue/green, just black/brown mud looking stuff. It's really gross....
That's why I'm resorting to desperate measures..

Thanks B, I think I have some flitz

[WGSNewnan]

the naval jelly will also remove the blueing. do yourself a favor and use a patch with some lapping compound on it. it'll remove all the rust and clean up the bore. you can get it at parts houses like autozone and napa. just ask for valve lapping compound. it is a light grease with abrasives in it.

[cz759]

Don't know if Autozone carries this or not, but any NAPA has water based valve laping compound. Much easier than the petrolium based compound to remove after you are done. You might also try wraping a bore brush with some strands of aluminum wool pot scrubber material. It will remove leading, and rust.:icon_biggrin:

[97th Signalman]

Naval Jelly may help to remove corrosion from a barrel. However, the really destructive aspect of corrosion is the rougness of the surface. It destroys accuracy by erroding lands and grooves and creates pits where lead and powder residue can can collect. Removal of rust may make a bore look somewhat better but it won't fill in pits or sharpen lost rifling. A barrel that has been ruined by neglect is just that...ruined.

[Otis61]

Naval Jelly may help to remove corrosion from a barrel. However, the really destructive aspect of corrosion is the rougness of the surface. It destroys accuracy by erroding lands and grooves and creates pits where lead and powder residue can can collect. Removal of rust may make a bore look somewhat better but it won't fill in pits or sharpen lost rifling. A barrel that has been ruined by neglect is just that...ruined.

You know, I've been thinking about this a lot. I wonder if a person could put some sort of ceramic coating inside the barrel. Then maybe shoot some Tubb final finish bullets to even it out more. So as to fill in the pits after you clean it all out with naval jelly.

Anyone have any thoughts?

[WildBillCody]

Well I thank you all for your thoughts on this, I went ahead and filled the barrel up with the jelly. The thing wouldn't stop rusting before, I would clean it and come back a week later and still rusty. I filled the barrel up, let i sit for an hour, it looks much better then it did, and not rusty, the lands are almost gone, and it looks like it was counterbored already, so I don't think I could hurt it. It did take the bluing off in some spots, but I was going to drop in into the park tank anyway so that shouldn't matter, we'll see what it looks like afterwards. Then I'll put it back together and see how it shoots, if it's halfway decent, I'll leave it alone, but if the bullets are keyholing or something I'll have to get a new barrel for it.

[Orlando]

Naval Jelly is a fairly strong acid, it may have done more harm than good?
Anyone ever tried to make a electric bore cleaner? Never tried it myself but read of some real good results of trashed bores coming out clean when using them.

[SteelCore]

I would not have done that, but if you're happy with the results, that's cool. I figure removing a few micrometers of steel is not good...it is simply duplicating excessive barrel wear.

I clean but do not polish bores, but have used copper solvents like the one Pro SHot Products makes. It works.

[WildBillCody]

I don't think you guys can realize how bad the barrel is/was, I did not remove anymore of the metal, all it did was neutralize the rust. Look at the inside of the tail pipe on your car...... still better then this barrel. :)

If I could find a barrel cheap enough, I would try to change it myself. I got hosed on this rifle, the seller said "The bore is good with strong rifling", I really don't want to put anymore money into it. you could barely see light through the barrel, the first dozen times running a brush through it, it looked like mud coming out..

[herian67]

I made a electronic bore cleaner with a lantern battery.Works like a charm.I use ammonia 50 -50 with water.You wouldnt believe the crap that comes out of a supposedly clean barrel.It will also knock the crud out of sewerpipe bores good too.It made my dark svt 40 bore look almost brand new.Tightened up the groups in several rifles too.