ar-180b?

[Karl E. Hungus]

aye, i just found an ar-180b on sale for 700 bucks... i dont know anything about stoner/ar rifles. can anyone give me an idea of these things?

ive never had rifle in .223. im more of a big caliber guy. how much difference is there from say, a .308?

also, how is accuracy? deos it make much of a distance rifle?

[nalioth]

Well, the 5.56 ballistics are well known.

It was originally designed to be an infantry weapon, so accuracy will be "combat accurate" as opposed to 'shoot the nads off a gnat at 1000 yards accurate'

It uses a gas piston operating system (a REAL BIG PLUS in my book) and shares many internal parts with the AR15 (the ar180b uses AR15 mags, too).

I'd have one over an AR15 any day of the week.

[hunter_la5]

Ive heard pretty good things about them for the most part. the only negative thing I heard was from a forum member here that had to send theirs back due to canted sights or something of the sort? correct me if I'm wrong.

according to one review I've read is that the accuracy is between that of a mini-14 and an AR, so probably decent accuracy but not a tack driver. according to another review (Cruffler.com (http://www.cruffler.com/Features/JAN-02/review-January-02.html)), it got as good as .75 inch groups at 50 yds, so take that for what its worth

the only thing that bothers me is that the lower is made of polymer instead of the original stamped steel, but thats more of an aesthetic preference than anything. All in all, I will be wanting to buy my first .223 rifle some time in the near future, and the AR180b very well might be it. as Nalioth said, the gas piston operation is a HUGE plus