TX Rep Calls Ft. Hood victims Combat Related

[CrossFire]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/17/gop-effort-benefits-fort-hood-victims-fuel-political-dispute/?test=latestnews

The Obama Regime seems to not like this idea.
I believe that not only should all the victims of Major Hasan be treated the same as troops caught in any ambush by enemy fighters but the two young troops gunned down in front of that recruiting station by another home grown jihadi should also be so honored.:America:
Time to start calling Congress and the Senate and get support for this idea.:thumbup:

[drine]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/17/gop-effort-benefits-fort-hood-victims-fuel-political-dispute/?test=latestnews

The Obama Regime seems to not like this idea.
I believe that not only should all the victims of Major Hasan be treated the same as troops caught in any ambush by enemy fighters but the two young troops gunned down in front of that recruiting station by another home grown jihadi should also be so honored.:America:
Time to start calling Congress and the Senate and get support for this idea.:thumbup:

Looks like Purple Hearts might be on the way for all the victims.

[brewskzilla]

I'm sorry, but if he yelled Allahu Ackbar before firing then that means he chose his side and commited an act of WAR! Of COURSE they should be treated like casualties! They were attacked by a terrorist, whom, if I remember correctly, is the enemy in this particular war. Anyone who says otherwise probably does so because they dont want to admit that the war has reached our shores... NEVER MIND the fact that it started here.

[earls]

But a political dispute has broken out over whether the shooting rampage should be called a terrorist attack. Republicans say the evidence, including the suspect's ties to a radical Muslim cleric in Yemen, clearly points to one, but Democrats caution that it is not yet clear what his motives were.

Maybe he was confused and grabbed the wrong gun. Maybe he intended to help quench peoples thirst by taking his water pistol and shooting kool-aid in their mouths.

Be for real people. He did just what he intended to do, COMMIT A TERRORIST ATTACK.

Why does anyone think it was anything else? His ties to a radical Muslim cleric aside, just his past actions / statements IMO point to him having mindset to possibly commit terrorism. His actions to me were nothing short of terrorism.

I believe anyone injured or killed through a terrorist act should be honored as those injured or killed on the battlefield. The terrorists are our enemy. It is hard for many to accept that the terrorists can be here among us, but they are.

[Arkane]

There's a lot of disbelief and anger at the presidency here in this area for not acknowledging this as a terrorist attack. I don't think he'll be showing his face around around Hood again for some time.

[Cavalryman]

The evidence seems to indicate that:

(1) The victims were targeted by a member of a group which is currently at war with the United States, by which I mean radical Islamists, not Muslims in general or Arabs. I think at this point it is pretty clear that radical Islamists are at war with us and we with them. I think it is also pretty clear that the perpetrator is a radical Islamist.

(2) They were targeted specifically because they were members of the United States military.

I would support giving any appropriate combat-related medals. It really doesn't matter whether the soldiers were at home or abroad and it doesn't matter that they didn't plan to fight a war that day. JMHO.

[bladeworks123]

Absolutely casualties of war,,,, it doesn't matter whether the invading enemy comes ashore by the thousands or if they come one at a time.

[Patria Povo]

I would support giving any appropriate combat-related medals. It really doesn't matter whether the soldiers were at home or abroad and it doesn't matter that they didn't plan to fight a war that day. JMHO.

This makes sense to me.

Did the injured and killed in the 11 September attack on the Pentagon get combat-related medals?

[bladeworks123]

This makes sense to me.

Did the injured and killed in the 11 September attack on the Pentagon get combat-related medals?

If they didn't,,,,Those who were in the military should have, to pepetutate with honor their supreme sacrifice for their service to their country. And those who were citizens should have received the Presedential Medal of Freedom, which is the highest award a civilian can receive from the President. That is the least that could be done to perpetuate, with honor, that these people gave their lives for being Americans.

[CrossFire]

If you agree that all military personel killed or wounded by Islamist terrorists, be it in Kabul or Kansas, should be recodnized the same then, please, contact your Congressman and Senator and let's start pressuring them to do it.
This will also start reinforcing the idea that we have enemy agents here on our streets to our neighbors who still think this is a far away problem.:America:

[Patria Povo]

To find your Representative:

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

Senators:

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

[Arkane]

Carter's our rep. And the Senators will no doubt get on with the bandwagon as well.

As far as medals, I had a Battalion Commander whom was wounded in the Pentagon on 9/11. He did get a purple heart. These folks deserve that.

[CrossFire]

Thanks for adding the link Patria Povo.

[Norton]

Yes Hassan did the shootings to help the other side in this Jihad against the West. Then the Fort hood shooting victims would be combat wounded or combat deaths. Hassan became a 5th columist traitor along the way or was always one.


My own opinion is he joined the Army as a way to pay for a good education.
He was treated with kid gloves from his induction and through medical school. As he was a minority within a minority.. A American Born Palistinian Muslim.
I can see the Army saying we need guys like this as he understands the enemy's way of thinking.. Let's give him a sweet gig at Walter Reed where he can play Dr Bellows for a while. It turned out the guy was no good at his job and starts getting bad feedback from his peers. Things stop going his way and he blames on the fact he is a Muslim. Thats where he move from talking about Jihad to really doing something. Even if the Grand Pooh-bah did not specifically tell him to start shooting. His motivation for doing it is clear.
He wanted to be a kamikazie and take as many American Troops with him as he could. I would say that is part of a war as we know it in 2009.. Even since 1983 if you think about it.


Cavalryman wrote
They were targeted specifically because they were members of the United States military.
It really doesn't matter whether the soldiers were at home or abroad and it doesn't matter that they didn't plan to fight a war that day. .

bladeworks123 wrote
Absolutely casualties of war,,,, it doesn't matter whether the invading enemy comes ashore by the thousands or if they come one at a time

Or in Hassan's case were already 'Native born' and here

[Arkane]

Just saw this. Well wortht he watch:

http://www.wtoc.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=4285612&h1=Editorial%20-%2011/09/09&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=186467&LaunchPageAdTag=News