Why Wally world can't sell ammo

[97th Signalman]

I tried to buy WWB 230gr FMJ at Walmart today. It took me 15 minutes to find someone in the department. When I found the guy I told him what I wanted he went looking for the keys to the ammo cabinet. After a 15 minute search he said he was unable to find them. He told me to come back later when the manager might be around. He thought that she might know where the keys were. That is what it used to be like when you tried to buy firearms there before they stopped selling them. I guess they keep making the department smaller because they don't sell much. Gee..I wonder why their sales are declining?

:2pistol:

[Rampager]

This is a good reason to support your local gunshop. Sometimes I know I'm paying a little more at my local gunshop for certain things, but they order whatever I want and are friendly and know me by name. I look at it as a donation to some degree. The only gun related thing I buy at Wally World is cleaning supplies and .22 ammo.

[turbothis]

my walmart has really down sized but still has ammo and cleaning stuff but no guns or gear any more.

i too try and support my local gun shops that treat me deceantly. the ones that are ass's i laugh and leave them to starve.

[k98k792]

I have had the same thing happen twice. Next time demand to see the manager.That is the only thing that gets their attention. The value pac boxes of 100 Winchester .45 ACP are worth a fight!

[Lon Moer]

The Wally world near me has lots of 9mm, .40, .45 WWB, but never any rifle ammo. When I asked about some .223 they pulled out a 20rd box of Remington brand. I kept trying to tell them "I want big box. Big white box. Muy cartriges. Cento. 100. Blanco box. W-i-n-c-h-e-s-t-e-r." :wall:

[SteelCore]

That and some CLP are the last thing I bout from Wally world here in town. after that, they pretty mch limited it to Painballs and BBs...

[NavajoNPaleFace]

This is a good reason to support your local gunshop.

As much as I agree economics factors in here.

A. Most mom and pop gun shops can't compete with Wallyworld's prices and...

B. Wallyworld is 13 miles from me whereas the nearest gun shop is nearly 45.


My truck gets 10 MPG on gas.

I can do the math.

[okie shooter]

Our wally here carries a good selection of ammo, and is far deeper in some calibers than the local gun shops. That said, most of my ammo comes from gun shows, then wally, then the local shop if they have it in that order.

They are tough to beat in some calibers. .22 and 9mm are cheaper than when I started shooting them twenty years ago.

I notice that those with problems with shooting stuff at wally seem to live in places with lots of compatition from other vendors, dunnhams is big up north and north east for sure(would love to have other retailers here but wally and the two gun shop/pawn shops are it for ninty miles to a big box sporting goods retailer)

[SteelCore]

1.Wally world sells neither milsurp rifles or ammo,
2. Nor do I wanna shoot the shite with the lowly paid and poorly gun-educated clerk that would serve me at wally world.

WW is 2 miles, gushop is 15. I get 15MPG. for me, Quality of life is more than math.

[nalioth]

Quality of life is more than math.

+1 on that.

[jlpskydive]

My WW gun counter is run by a genuine "good ol boy" is stocked with Remington, Ruger, and another brand of rifles as well as shotguns by Beretta, and Mossberg. I believe it is one of the last in the country. Although I buy 99% from my local shop because they are just a lot nicer about it and genuinely want good customers there.

[okie shooter]

I guess most folks have seen wally as a new thing that kick the stuffing out of the stores where they live when the moved in ten to twenty years or even less. I have lived with walmart since I was seven, store number 127 or so was in my hometown. Thus I have no qualms with them they wernt much bigger than the other stores in town, they just worked on the prices for me as a shopper, we had in the day, TG&Y, Tempo stores, ALCO, Sears, JC Penny's, Ben Franklin and the asortment of mom and pop stores. Now the demise of much of the mom and pop was already happening if not walmart, it would be k-mart(the store tried to beat sears for so long and did it but in the same reporting quarter walmart passed them for the #1 spot). Thus there is plenty of big box blame out there too. I imagine dicks, academy and others are beating the piss out of mom and pop sporting goods retailer too. The internet kicks the crap out of lots of speciality stores, inlcudeing shooting supplies. The rise of big box may be good, but in places like hardware lowes and home depot lead, in electronics its best buy, Heck even in farm and ranch there is Tractor Supply, and so on and so on.

It sucked to try to get anything on sunday or after five around here in hardware until lowes opened a store here, all the mom and pops(and some of the corprate stores) always closed at noon on saturday, and five thirty during the week. Lowes, like Wal-Mart realize that folks work and still need stuff later or on sunday.

There always will be trends in retailing, its the customer driving it, not the retailers, they give us as consumers what we want, I don't care what any one says, they dont shop wally, but enough folks out there do that for some the only choice becomes walmart for better or worse. Remember money talks, no one makes any one work for walmart or shop there.

P.S. they are down sizeing too, going smaller to hit the niche of places like dollar general too.
From this article

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070502/bs_nm/retail_bigbox_dc_1


Home Depot, Wal-Mart roll out smaller stores
By Karen JacobsWed May 2, 12:22 PM ET


The biggest of the big-box retailers are looking to get a lot smaller as they try to bring in more customers in areas where mega-buildings are neither practical nor affordable.
Discounter Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (NYSE:WMT - news), the world's largest retailer, and home improvement industry leader Home Depot Inc. (NYSE:HD - news) are rolling out stores that are much smaller as their bigger warehouse stores near a saturation point in the United States.
This year, Wal-Mart said it was changing the layout of its Neighborhood Market stores, which are typically about 39,000 square feet, to add more frozen food and bakery items and make over the health and beauty departments.
"We are tailoring specific Neighborhood Markets to provide the type of product mix that will be customized," Wal-Mart spokesman Dave Tovar said.
Wal-Mart, which opened its first Neighborhood Market in 1998, now has about 112 of these smaller stores and plans to open 15 to 20 of them over the next year. Wal-Mart supercenters average 187,000 square feet.
"The need to continue to grow the company and open up stores in places where they're not is what's driving this," said George Whalin, president of Retail Management Consultants.
Last month, Home Depot opened stores that measure 28,600 to 50,000 square feet, smaller than its average 105,000-square- foot format, in California, spokesman Anthony Wilbert said.
The home improvement chain will also roll out small-market stores in Tennessee in July, and plans to open a 235,000- square-foot super store in New Jersey next year.
Whalin said smaller stores make sense for Home Depot but pose challenges for Wal-Mart.
Wal-Mart "is so used to having a bigger palate to paint on and a bigger space to do things in that I think (a smaller format) is difficult," Whalin said.
He said stores in the 40,000-square-foot range require retailers to slim down their offerings. "I don't know that (Wal-Mart) is convinced they can do it right," Whalin said.
But he added that Bentonville, Arkansas-based Wal-Mart might put more emphasis on smaller stores now that Britain's Tesco Plc (TSCO.L) plans to launch U.S. grocery stores.
Tesco, Britain's biggest retailer, will open small grocery stores in the United States this year to focus on ready-to-eat meals and fresh and environmentally friendly products.
At Home Depot, Whalin said smaller stores can work in urban areas, particularly if they are served by independent hardware stores that can't offer the Atlanta chain's pricing and selection.
"There's a part of America that needs the kind of a hardware store and home center that Home Depot operates," Whalin said.
The New York Post on Monday reported that analysts say Wal-Mart is mulling stores as small as 20,000 square feet. When asked whether Wal-Mart was planning even smaller versions, Tovar said the chain was currently focused on its 40,000-square-foot format.
Whalin said he would be "real surprised" if Wal-Mart set up a 20,000 square-foot store.
Home Depot shares were up 38 cents to $38.81 in noon trading on the New York Stock Exchange on Wednesday, while Wal-Mart gained 33 cents to $48.66.


Maybe the future will hold we all will work for the corpration or the goverment, just those two.

[NavajoNPaleFace]

1.Wally world sells neither milsurp rifles or ammo,
2. Nor do I wanna shoot the shite with the lowly paid and poorly gun-educated clerk that would serve me at wally world.

WW is 2 miles, gushop is 15. I get 15MPG. for me, Quality of life is more than math.

Just curoius.....how in creation do you figfure buying from a higher source and paying gas, wear and tear on your vehicle make for a better quality of life?

My favorite gun shop in Prescott Valley (now under new management and ownership) has far less time to deal with "lookers" (to the point they act like you are bothering them) and far, far less ammo than they did 2 years ago.

Wallyworld has a better selection right now.

THAT IS a better quality of life when I am happier from a short ride with the results I get what I want than a longer ride and paying more for what I MIGHT want.

I am not an advoacate of shopping Walmart versus mom and pop but if mom and pop want to compete they need to compete. THAT is life!

People who advocate against mall stores like Wallworld will quickly buy at Cabella's....Sportsman's Warehouse....and the likes. DUH??????? To me there is no difference there.

I have no idea just exactly where you are from but in Arizona VERY FEW of the mom and pop gun shops have any bargains.

I would love to give them my money but they have to have what I want when I go in their stores rather than thinking I wasted my hard earned gas and time for nothing.

BTW......the guy I speak with at Wallyworld is an avid gun enthusiast and probably better gun educated than most people that go in there for goods.

[robocop10mm]

The last time I was in the local Wally World, I needed directions to find something and asked a lady stocking the shelves. Her response was "No habla Inglais." I have not been back.

[nalioth]

Just curoius.....how in creation do you figfure buying from a higher source and paying gas, wear and tear on your vehicle make for a better quality of life?

My favorite gun shop in Prescott Valley (now under new management and ownership) has far less time to deal with "lookers" (to the point they act like you are bothering them) and far, far less ammo than they did 2 years ago.

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BTW......the guy I speak with at Wallyworld is an avid gun enthusiast and probably better gun educated than most people that go in there for goods.

Depending on circumstances, you will have a knowledgable Wally employee. For most of us, we don't.

I do business with a local mom-n-pop gun shop for all my FFL transfers (i rarely buy anything they stock). I also give the place good word of mouth with others. They are always happy to see me there.

This mom-n-pop knows how to treat customers.

It is farther away than the closest wal-mart to me.

[Karl E. Hungus]

in my area walmarts only carry air rifles, and the most generic of rifles and shotguns, so theres no way they can compete with the local shops(whitch are many) except on maybe pistol and .22 ammo.

i wonder if they knew how many more customers they would get if they just started selling the AKs like Dunham's sports did. hehehe. i love that place. cheap milsurp buyer's candystore.

[iocane]

Being competetive with prices only works as far as there is customers who are willing to search out cheap prices. Mom and Pop store has a sale, not many notice. Walmart has sale on something cheap someone notices. People are already in the store anyway buying junkfood are cheap toys.
The gun store I shop at is cheaper then walmart so don't need walmart ammo.

Besides farming, and a agriculture research job I also own part of a fruit stand. That fruit stand teaches lessons on really basic capitalism. Have the best product at the cheapest price and someone might possibly notice, good luck. Its a shame, I was one of the last around here that aimed for those who did a whole lot of food canning. They bought cheap in bulk. So the aim to make money was just to produce a lot. Well most of those customers died of old age. Now shoppers want things in little containers. Half pint, whoever dreamed up something so small as a half pint. Ridiculous. People want to see the exact same thing as in the store. Not a lot cheaper. If its in a big bulky container and cheap something has to be wrong with it. Unless its Costco for some reason. Seems like the possibility that I have a whole lot of something and I want to sell it instead of it going to waist doesn't cross their minds. Theres this myth that price equals quality. They also want things to be pretty, as in pictures on walls, flowers on signs. Its all about the experiance. So instead of working on growing lots of high quality crops, everything has to be pretty and in little tiny containers. Customers have more power then they think, use it wisely.

[esninak]

the wally worlds up here are purdy good about their service. they have extensive sporting goods sections and a full rifles, shotguns, lever guns, and handguns, they even had a Springfield M1A1 last time i was there(soooo sweet, but way too spendy, even there). and the people behind the counter know quite a bit about the guns. were they lack is in the ammo department. they have a wide ramge of calibers, but not much choice for each cal, so i go to sportsman's for ammo. im sure its just because its alaska that its still this good. i feel sorry for you lower48ers.

[jfowl31]

walmart here in Austin has dropped all firearm sales, and their ammo supply is so limited, basically they are just selling what they have and not restocking anything.

I have 4 choices really... the gun shop where "they know my name"... they are a tad spendy, and over 30 minutes away, but I stop by and buy something when I happen to be down in their neighborhood. Then I got Academy, Cabelas, or Sportsmans Warehouse... Academy is easily the cheapest ammo between those, but have a HORRIBLE selection, and are always sold out of the cheap stuff...

I used to buy all my pistol ammo and 22 lr from Wally, but they have lost all my gun related business until they shape up... I do still buy fishing lures and such from them.

[Rampager]

I have nothing against shopping at Walley World, I do all the time. But I figure if all the mom and pop's go out, then Wal-mart is all that's gonna be left in my area. Wal-mart ain't gonna order an AK for me...so who do I go to then?

Anyone remember when Katrina hit and the Wal-marts in that area quit selling guns and ammo? What happens when the mom and pops are gone and Wal-mart goes the Ebay route? This is why I try to throw a few bucks to the local gunshops when I can. Folks are free to do what they want, but this is my logic.

[Smokehouse69]

First of all the people in Weird-Mart scare me! Not just the shoppers either! The Super Weird-Mart 2 miles from my house has a nice selection on firearms, saw a Mini-14 and some sort of AR-15 on the rack.
Just for schitz-and-giggles I asked the clerk behind the counter if they had any 8mm Mauser. I was surprised, he pulled out a dusty box of Remington, the price was pretty steep... $31.00 for a box of 20!
I passed and went home and reloaded the brass I had, for about 30 cents a round!

[okie shooter]

I am not sure but I imagine that would be the price for some soft point hunting ammo for one at my local gun store too, just with surplus out there, you shoot more of it, wally and everyone else is going to be expensive for less common hunting rounds. I am actually suprised he had it, they are supposed to keep stock fresh thus selling it.

[M1 Tanker]

Make sure you continue to support your Local Communist Supply Outlet.

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And yes, I shop at Cabelas and Bass Pro Shops. Yes there is a difference.