CETME handguard supposed to get HOT?!?!?

[Tread_Head]

Anyone else have the wood front handguard of their CETME get REALLY hot during firing? I shot 2 1/2 mags through mine and had could no longer hold the wood handguard! Can't imagine what a Spanish soldier would have done after firing 4-5 mags in combat!

[nalioth]

Anyone else have the wood front handguard of their CETME get REALLY hot during firing? I shot 2 1/2 mags through mine and had could no longer hold the wood handguard! Can't imagine what a Spanish soldier would have done after firing 4-5 mags in combat! Yeah, that wood is thin, aint it? No heat shield in it, either.

Guess the soldiers wore gloves or something . .

[Tread_Head]

It makes it hard to shoot while standing, but I usually just use the magazine for support when on the bench. Finally properly sighted the CETME in today. 18 out of 20 rounds in the head of an E-type silhouette at at 100m from the bench. :g3: Also shot my new Hakim for the 1st time. That thing is LOUD but also surprisingly accurate. I was using those targets that turn yellow at the point of impact (cant remember the name of them), and the Hakim put all 10rds w/in the 7 ring at 100m. Not bad for an Egyptian military rifle on a windy day.

[Darkwatch]

I have the thin cheap ass Tapco plastic on mine. It came with no heat shield but I got some muffler tape (the stuff with the reflectice side) and I lined the inside of the hand guard with it and it seams to help some.

[JayGeeWentWorth]

I put about 60 rds through my cetme with that cheap ass thin plastic forearm that century cetme's come with and the rifle was almost too hot to handle at that point. After that I upgraded to a HK wide forearm with a heat shield, but I haven't had a chance to test it out yet. Another cheaper option is to get a slim HK forearm that has a heat shield.

[Rampager]

I'm wondering if you could JB weld a tin shield in the HG, if that'd help.
I've never seemed to notice a big problem with mine, does get warm though.

Just as a precautionary though...don't get in the habit of holding it by the mag either cause if you ever have a kaboom that's where most of the force is going to go.

[rustypirate]

Since it was lost on the old site, I will repost it here....

Plans for making your own aluminum heat shield just like the one sin the HK handguards:

All you need is some tin snips or heavy scissors.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2299/heatshieldno5.jpg

[Rampager]

Thanks Rusty...might try making one myself. Is this a pressure fit that holds it in place?

[nevada]

That was one of the first things I found out about shhoting a cetme alot: hot wood! I put some foil inside mine, not near as nice a solution as Rustys.

[Tread_Head]

Damn Rusty, I might have to give that design a try. Where would I find the thin ribbed aluminum sheets? I doubt my local Lowe's has them.

[Smokehouse69]

Way cool! I'm heading out tomorrow to look for some thin aluminum!!

[hunter_la5]

Guess the soldiers wore gloves or something . .


Ive seen lots of CETME pics with spanish soldiers holding the rifle by the magazine instead of the foregrip when firing... maybe they shot like that after it heated up?

[Perro]

happiness is a warm gun momma

[bullseye]

As I was told by a spanish friend, the men in spain are REAL men and like the heat. He was either talking about the food, women, or CETME fore-ends, I can't remember. :)

[ocharry]

you guys might check out some aluminum flashing ,,, it comes in a roll and it's used for roof work(valleys and point tucking) just a thought.

ocharry

[mritt4]

Hey Perro, how many rounds did it take to smoke like that? I have never had the opportunity to put more than 40 rounds at a time through mine. Oh yea, flashing would be perfect...

[AK AJ]

Hey Perro, how many rounds did it take to smoke like that? I have never had the opportunity to put more than 40 rounds at a time through mine. Oh yea, flashing would be perfect...

That can't be Perro's Cetme It doesn't have the correct muzzle attachment.

[okie shooter]

I remember the comment about shooting so much the barrel was hot enough to light a cig. Thats above 450 deg f. Thus they will get hot for sure.

Now only to be able to afford the ammo to do that alot. :)

[SteelCore]

SHoot-N-See targets...

For aluminum flashing, just drink a coke and use the aluminum from the can! It is thick enuf and easy to do.

I tellya, AKs are for mag dumps, not CETMEs...I've never had much of a heat issue with my CETME...course I have the mega-vented Mod B steel HG...

http://www.arminse.es/fotos_productos/inutilizadas/subfusiles%20y%20fusiles/cetmeb.jpg

[Woodman in MO]

I tellya, AKs are for mag dumps, not CETMEs...

Shoot...nowadays, my ruger 10/22 is about the only thing I dump the mag in.

It's all prone slowfire in the CETME and AR and Standing with the AK...

[okie shooter]

Shoot...nowadays, my ruger 10/22 is about the only thing I dump the mag in.

It's all prone slowfire in the CETME and AR and Standing with the AK...

I will second that, I got bunch of cci stuff for less than seventy cents a box, need to find the mag loader and high cap 10/22 mags and go back to where I started to be affordable.

[Perro]

That can't be Perro's Cetme It doesn't have the correct muzzle attachment.
not my cetme
someone posted that pic a long time ago and i saved it to my harddrive. unfortunately i dont know how many rounds it took to get it to that point, or who the picture belongs to.

[Reloader_26D]

That was one of the first things I found out about shhoting a cetme alot: hot wood!

I find I get that way after a good round of shooting. I then just have to settle down, and relax a bit... know what i mean!:nar:

[jfowl31]

A cold shower helps too...

as far as hot handguards go... Ive heated mine up to smoking more than once. Its much easier to handle with a wide handguard when it gets hot compared to wood.

[Lon Moer]

I can't believe nobody has said it yet..........Oven Mitt!:woohoo-1:

http://www.alldressforms.com/betty-boop/betty-boop-chef-oven-mitt.jpg

[rustypirate]

For a while I thought it was just my CETME that got so hot, then I started shooting AKs, FALs etc., and I quickly figured out that I can get just about ANY semi-auto to smoke the handguards.

[okie shooter]

I think I remember many machine guns with quick change barrels were issued asbestos gloves to change them out, but with a machine gun I have read you can get them hot enough to see the bullet travel down the barrel, not sure if true but neat idea. For sure I have smoked the ak handguard many a time, and the sks-d too.

[Tread_Head]

Mine took 40rds to smoke like that.

[Phirebug]

hehehe...we have an asbestos oven mitt on the tank. comes in handy, too. ever do a mag(belt) dump with a 240 when it's 110 out? ouch!

[SteelCore]

"It's all prone slowfire in the CETME and AR and Standing with the AK..."

Yep. The only thing I've mag dumped recently was my Wasr10 Hi-cap with the 75-rd drum...THAT made the bbl turn grey and some smoke was present. at current prices, that's about 14bux for 20seconds of pure excitement.

"I have read you can get them hot enough to see the bullet travel down the barrel, not sure if true but neat idea."
-->THat does sound neat, but I don't think opaque metal turns translucent when it is red hot. In my observation, when glass is blown and it gets red-hot, it loses its transparency as it becomes molten. Also, It is really hard to see slmething moveing at 2700ft per sec.

Maybe what they're describing is observing the bbl, while red hot, expand as the pressure behind the bullet swells the bbl, and contract as the bullet leaves the bbl.

[97th Signalman]

Yeah, my CETME hanguard gets HOT too. That's normal. For that matter, you should see my M1 Garand cook. When I burn through three or four clips in rapid fire my hanguard boils off WWII oil like a mouse in a microwave.

:nuked:

[arnaiz]

New rifles HG fires.
They get internal surface carbonized and later things go cooler.
HGs dimensions are not identic, I have seen HG flaming.
If wood touch barrel continuos firing will made it fire, tarnish and grease will help wood to fire.
This is what everybody want to do with the rifle of other owner, but no with their one.

[texlurch]

I've had a couple of the AKs I built smoke pretty good.. guess I missed some cosmo... :)

[bullseye]

I smoked my CETME worse than that bumping 3 mags as fast as I could load them. Under no circumstances do you touch the barrel after that when standing it up against a table though. :nonono: It hurts. :hammer:

[KMURPHY]

i had 'er smokin to beat hell last memorial day. now i wish i did not piss all of that surplus ammo downrange

[arnaiz]

Ive seen lots of CETME pics with spanish soldiers holding the rifle by the magazine instead of the foregrip when firing... maybe they shot like that after it heated up?Just ignorance.
And remember spanish soldiers shot not may during their stance in Army. Me 60 shots....