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bladeworks123
05-16-2010, 02:23 PM
OK got real bored waiting for etching stencils to dry.....Got to thinking about those $50.00 + Uber Cool Genuine Hk Rear stock pin sling eyes......If you have any old stock pins laying around taking up space with some old demilled front triple frame pins, this is super easy and well worth $50.00 + you can save for ammo.......

Take an old stock pin, cut it off right flush with the spring notch. Take a 10/24 tap and thread both ends....

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Take your old throw away demill sling eye, (which are almost always too short to ever use again), get a 10/24 die and thread the thing all the way to the eye......

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Now all you need is a 10/24 x 1/2" grade eight hex cap screw (45 cents)
and you are ready to rock...

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Put a little red lock tight or a dab of JB weld on the threads of the sling eye....

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and crank it down tight...

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There you have the sling pin for $50+. that only cost you 45 cents....
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The pin will pass through the stock to the other side just short of making it all the way through....

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Tighten down the cap screw.....

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And finish to taste.....

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Smokehouse69
05-16-2010, 02:34 PM
Sweet!! Very inventive and cheap to do! :rockon:

Allwater
05-16-2010, 03:36 PM
Very nice - thanks for sharing - this is what I love about this site!

Home-made goodies rock!!!

popo
05-16-2010, 04:58 PM
Way Cool:thumbup:

Planning
05-16-2010, 05:13 PM
OK! which one of you guys is going to make up a bunch of these and sell them ???????

i want a few of them.:icon_biggrin: if you do..........:rockon:

this is a wonderful idea blade. how about you doing it?

it's your idea anyway.

ron

bladeworks123
05-16-2010, 05:35 PM
Well, I am kicking myself in the butt right now for throwing away two or three old sling eyes,,,,, and some old pins that had broken springs and chewed up ends awhile back.....

But I think I have already improved on this by changing out the cap screw for a flat head.....I trimmed the pin just a little shorter and the counter sink shoulder on the flat head tightens against the pin and allows the pin to rotate, doesn't squeeze on the stock that way either.....

drine
05-16-2010, 07:36 PM
OK, I'm copying this, unless you got the patent already. I wondered what the heck people did with those chopped sling eyelet pins they got in kits. I'm betting they got tossed when it was noticed you need that little extra to get a decent peen. Great work!

Smokehouse69
05-16-2010, 08:09 PM
Well, I am kicking myself in the butt right now for throwing away two or three old sling eyes,,,,, and some old pins that had broken springs and chewed up ends awhile back.....

But I think I have already improved on this by changing out the cap screw for a flat head.....I trimmed the pin just a little shorter and the counter sink shoulder on the flat head tightens against the pin and allows the pin to rotate, doesn't squeeze on the stock that way either.....

That's why I very seldom throw away any old gun parts, I even keep scraps of receivers "just in case."
But on the other hand I am so disorganized that half of the time I can't find the stuff I need to finish anything. I think I have a small black-hole somewhere in my work room that eats stuff. :eek:

Planning
05-16-2010, 08:58 PM
That's why I very seldom throw away any old gun parts, I even keep scraps of receivers "just in case."
But on the other hand I am so disorganized that half of the time I can't find the stuff I need to finish anything. I think I have a small black-hole somewhere in my work room that eats stuff. :eek:

i seldom ( if ever) throw away any gun parts. i have empty ammo spam cans and old ammo cans that i throw the used parts in and dig thru them often. disorganized is good, it must be because so many of us do it well.:icon_biggrin:

many time someone here will need a screw or some small part and i will send it to them. it works the other way also, i have needed a small part or something and some one will just send it to me. i don't try to keep track of who or what because it works out good in the end. what goes around comes around. ( my wife has told me that for years :icon_biggrin:)
ron

bladeworks123
05-16-2010, 09:22 PM
OK, I'm copying this, unless you got the patent already. I wondered what the heck people did with those chopped sling eyelet pins they got in kits. I'm betting they got tossed when it was noticed you need that little extra to get a decent peen. Great work!


Well like I said, I had some, and my thought was I would just weld a little rod to them and dress them up and then I said,,,,,why?, RTG has new ones cheap...Who knew....

Planning
05-16-2010, 09:50 PM
i have one of the twins that the rear sling mount broke off. just never welded it back on ( always some day going to do it) i think i have the pins and an old eyelet pin to do this so i think i may look for them and just try to do one myself.
thanks blade for the idea again.
ron

jfowl31
05-16-2010, 11:28 PM
Anyone got a spare short sling eye they want to part with?

jfowl31
05-17-2010, 04:45 PM
Ordered everything from RTG along with some forend pins I've been needing... This Ambi-sling pin will work AWESOME for the GSG, and I'll swap it to the Cetme if I ever carry it with a single point...... or just make a new one. Now its off to Home Depot to redeem some old gift cards to get a 10-24 tap and die.

rustypirate
05-17-2010, 07:46 PM
What I did was to ream out the head of a G3 pin, and press the eyelet pin into it.

I had to shorten the spring a little to make it work but it is plenty strong enough to keep from pulling out.

bladeworks123
05-17-2010, 08:11 PM
I thought about that too. Ream the hole out and then solder or tig the eye in place. The cool part is that the hole in the pin is perfect for threading with the 10-24 and the shank on the eyelet is good to go for the right diameter for the die. Maybe just a smidge big but if you go slow, keep the die oiled and clean you chips out it works perfect.

jfowl31
05-25-2010, 02:34 PM
Just about ready to roll on this...

jfowl31
05-29-2010, 12:35 PM
BW... having trouble getting the pin to thead correctly. Any tricks? Right when the threads start to grab, it will slip and ruin the end.

jfowl31
05-29-2010, 02:02 PM
NM... got it. can't decide if I want to cut off the spring end and thread that side too or just let it ride. For now I'm leaving it with only 1 side threaded and the other side intact. If it becomes a problem with the pin wanting to pull out, I'll change it.

bladeworks123
05-29-2010, 09:28 PM
I would be afraid it would pull out, but maybe not.....Hook a sling on it and give it a couple of tugs before you go out in the field with it. I would hate to see you lose the rifle by the pin pulling out. Apparently Hk was too, that is probably why they make the back end solid.

jfowl31
06-02-2010, 12:02 PM
I would be afraid it would pull out, but maybe not.....Hook a sling on it and give it a couple of tugs before you go out in the field with it. I would hate to see you lose the rifle by the pin pulling out. Apparently Hk was too, that is probably why they make the back end solid.

I changed my mind on this... ended up cutting off the end and tapping it for a machine screw like you did.

Mine is on the GSG3, and the more I looked at it, I realized there's no reason to NOT do it that way.Basically, disassembly of the gun requires tools after you get the buttstock off, so there's no reason to make the buttstock so easy to take off.

I still think on my Cetme though, I won't tap both ends simply because the pins are SOOOO tight that I am confident it would hold since the weight is pulling more sideways on the pin than straight out.

I fit my stock to my Cetme so that it would be a tight almost hammer fit and its ROCK solid on the back because of that. It doesn't need a hammer, but maybe a screwdriver handle tap to get the pin in and out. I'm not overly worried about quick disassembly in the field, but I do like it so that I can grab something crude around wherever I am and remove it if needed. In other words, I don't want to HAVE to use a specific tool (allen wrench or flathead screwdriver) to remove it, so I'll probably just leave it with the spring end of the pin.

In reality, I probably will never use this pin in my Cetme because its damn heavy for a single-point, and I like how my 3-point attaches in the rear.

p.s. I just used a flat-head machine screw from Home Depot for the one on the GSG3. Figure a flat head will be much easier to come by if I need to remove it than the right size Allen wrench just in case I'm not near my tools.

rustypirate
06-02-2010, 08:18 PM
I would actually use mine through the pin retaining holes in the buttstock on my MP5 clone.

This way I could remove the weapon from the sling without the buttstock coming off, and the weight of the MP5 was such that I did not need to worry about the pin pulling out.