Century done building Cetme's ?

[Evilblackgunsrfun]

i was on the century arms site tonight, didnt see the cetme on the semi auto rifle pages. looks like the run might be over

[HKILLER]

no more :century::machinegun::monkey:

[RandyCOG3]

Maybe their webmasters are as skilled as their gunsmiths....it's hard to type with hammers and grinders, ya know.

RandyCOG3

[Noskov]

Might make sense since they have been building these things for years and Spain was the only country to ever field them (I think); compared to AK's which will probably never run out of kits.

That being said; will the price of the CETME's go up now that no more are ever going to appear? Maybe.

On a side note...one of the reasons I hardly visit the Century website is that again they're one of those companies who "make up gun laws" rather than read them. 99% of their semi-auto line is legal in Hawaii but they list them all as being prohibited. The only semi-auto firearm they sell that isn't legal here is the Draco.

[Evilblackgunsrfun]

LOL good one Randy. but hey, i am happy with the cetme i ended up with. shame they put out so many with problems. but other then a barrel repress a person with alittle bit of skill and the right info could normaly fix them.
i do plan on keeping mine

[Planning]

a few years ago my contact at century said that they were about out of the good kits and were taking apart the not so good kits and sorting out the best parts to build rifles with. they still had some that had been sent back that they were using to get parts off of to repair sent back rifles(warranty work). they will use them to finish building rifles, so it sounds like they may have finally got to the end of the line on them. barrels are a problem to get. all this just drives up the cost of building them. the prices of them (if they are out) will go up. slowly at first then they will take a big jump in price. look for them to be at $700 to $800+ at the end of the year. if there is the threat of another AWB then the sky will be the limit on them and everything else. it will depend a lot on how the election this fall goes. if the dems stay in power, get ready.

maybe a good investment item to sell later..:wink:
this is just my guess.........:rolleyes:

looks like this is happening with the galil type rifle also and the M76.

note; for those that don't like century stuff, just don't buy them. it is that easy.

ron

[jfowl31]

If I remember right, there have been times in the past when Century didn't list the Cetme on their site. Maybe a year and a half ago a new wave of Cetmes started rolling in, but I think for a year or so before that, they were scarce at dealers, and mostly used.

[Noskov]

Century Arm's prices are hard to beat for finding surplus military firearms but it's their lack of quality that seems to burn a lot of people.

Most of their flaws are negligible but can you imagine if a company like Barrett, Noveske, Charles Daly, Krebs Custom, DSA were to ship out dirt/sand/metal shaving filled rifles with canted sights and ground bolts?

The only Century Arms rifle I own is one not even built by them; it's a Mosin Nagant M38 but even they got that wrong by marking it as a Swedish M38. :rolleyes:

Sometime down the road though I may purchase another Century Arms rifle but older models, rather than their current batches.

[M1 Tanker]

+1 to Planning's expertise and experience in this department. Since I've known Planning, he is never been wrong when it comes to price increases and availability with both weapons and ammunition.

Hard to dog Century hard when they are the largest importer in the US. I have a lot of rifles that were imported by them, but only my Cetme was assembled there.

[Evilblackgunsrfun]

my cetme is supposed to have a new US barrel

[Evilblackgunsrfun]

so far so good here with guns from century, out of my 2 ak's from them, my 2 fal's, and my cetme, none have had any problems other then the tight fitting mag in my latest fal from them

[Norton]

My Century rifles have been good buys as far I can see.
My FAL has ran perfect on the range. My CETME has had no trouble except the mag well need to be de-burred and it is still hard to remove the mags.
My MAS 49/56 7.62 NATO conversion has shot perfect. But I do see the other side of the coin, I know what poor products they have sent out in the past.

[Planning]

something i have noticed with century guns, enterprise, etc. the list of gun suppliers is very long, is that the same people are the ones that almost always have problems. why is that?:rolleyes:
just go back on this site or any gun site and look for it and you can find them.
if you bring up a gun made by or imported by anyone they had problems.
some even post on several gun sites over and over.

in 35+ years of buying guns i can maybe remember less than 5 that were a problem and 3 of them were recalls and i don't remember what the other 2 were, if there were 2 more.
almost all of the guns i have bought were used surplus guns or built from used surplus gun parts. most were less than 1/2 or more the cost of new built guns.

if you are looking for a new gun then buy a new gun, even then there has been problems.

i have had a lot of guns over the years because they were "CHEAP" if not i would only have had a few and that would not have been much fun.

i guess i just got lucky....:icon_biggrin:

ron

[Mortal_Wombat]

the cetme just takes a little love to get it working right.
after replacing a few parts (including a locking piece the monkeys at century actually ground down which i believe was the source of the problems) my bolt gap has settled at .015 and the gun just plain runs.

i cant wait for values to go up lol.

[Smokehouse69]

I think what we see here is the "problem" guns. Most of the rifles are probably just fine or at least function good enough that people don't go looking for help.
We see the people looking for help.

[Mortal_Wombat]

which is usually how it goes for everthing. haha
cars electronics doesnt matter
but like i said i love my cetme! i never badmouth the gun just the tards who built it.

[Evilblackgunsrfun]

got to admit, the tards at century have turned out some nice guns that dont need worked on.
i wonder if century is like the tire recapping place east of me, they hire college kids to recap truck tires over the summer so the kids can make some cash and a good bit of the recaps are not right.

[Steve68]

:2pistol:I have to say I was lucky with my first CETME, and it has only needed minor adjustments here and there. It is a good MBR for the price, and I still see a good supply of them at the gun shows in south Florida.

[Noskov]

Century Arms had a much better reputation before their original factory or whatever it burnt down.

Maybe it was to save costs or something and they hired less skilled labor?

[Steve68]

Century Arms had a much better reputation before their original factory or whatever it burnt down.

Maybe it was to save costs or something and they hired less skilled labor?

I don't know where the main factory was but they have a large building in Delray Beach Florida about 5 miles from me. I'll have to find out what they do there.

[gtty]

I bought a CETME kit from Century. It was listed as a kit without a barrel. Well I'm here to tell ya, it was not what they advertised. Those guys had the nerve to send me a full kit without a barrel, and a whole front half of another CETME w/ barrel. The nerve :icon_biggrin:

So I just had to build 2 of them.

[jdub3]

Not telling you guys anything. So, Century has provided me with surplus and new guns at affordable deals. Provided me with lots of satisfied days at the range. They are nearly solely responsible for getting me into collecting rifles. I like the old milsurps and the new rifles from WASR's up. I have returened 2-3 rifles to them. They made it right each time and some were just nit picky things I didn't like about my rifle. The ALWAYS made it right. I even remember one of the customer service ladies working the phone for 2 HOURS trying to get UPS to ship my rifle back to them. I think she sorta threatened them with "DO YOU KNOW HOW BIG OUR CONTRACT IS WITH YOU?" The poor lady called me back an hour after she was supposed to get off and said "your rifle is ready to ship."

I had her name and should have written her a thankyou letter. Now I have my UPS delivery guys number and he calls the HUB ahead of time to let the "new girl" know its ok for me to send a rifle to an FFL.

Off soapbox.

Oh yeah, my CETME was sent back 2-3 times, ended up w/ brand new gun and a brand new barrel. They paid for the last couple of times it went back too.

[jfowl31]

anyways... we all love or hate Century... but back on topic. Just because the Cetme is not listed does NOT mean they are done with them. We had this discussion a few years back when the Cetme dropped off the website, and everyone thought that they were done. Lo and Behold they came out with another HUGE group of stamped rifles again.

I'm torn whether I want them to be done or not. Part of me wants them to be done so the value of mine goes up... another big part of me would love for there to be TONS more of them so more shooters can enjoy them... and since I have no plans to sell my Cetme, I lean toward the latter option.

[Sturmvogel]

A big +1 to jfowl, I want more folks here with CETME's so that I have the benifit of good reading and good ideas!:rockon:

[bladeworks123]

I think what we see here is the "problem" guns. Most of the rifles are probably just fine or at least function good enough that people don't go looking for help.
We see the people looking for help.


Smokehouse has a good point here,,,, you know it is easy for us to short sheet the monkies when we see and hear the problems. And most guys who buy them and have no issues with them are probably a pretty silent group here because of that maybe. Given the number of CETME's that they have apparenty built, It would be interesting to do a poll that says Century CETME....I got a good one, I got a bad one.... And if they are out of business on the CETME, what in the HE double toothpicks will we have to do now for entertainment???
Will we have to get rid of the famous :century: century smiley?
We'll be like the Maytag repairmen of the mil surp weapons world..... Guess we'll have to look around for somebody new to pick on.....Like _______________.

[Planning]

i think i am down to a few of them now.:rolleyes:
i only have 1 with a gap of .004 the rest were well with in spec ( i have not messed with it yet). no canted sites, etc.
a little bragging here(again): a few, but not all of them......:icon_biggrin:
i got some of them cheap years ago. this is one of the reasons i like century guns.
i have several ( not shown) with the green stock sets, one with the tan stock set.
PS: i bought up a bunch of U.S. made century parts when they had a big clearance sale. it helps to keep them in 922r compliance. ( the parts are not for sale in case i buy some more of them)
ron

[Sturmvogel]

Braggart!! OK, just a little envy creeping in there... sorry, will try not to let it happen again... no promises. OK, your mag wells and the bottom of your bolt assemblies are bright and shiny, which I like from an asthetic point of view and more so from the practical side; did you use Flitz and a dremmel to get them that way? Or perhaps just silver plated...

[Planning]

Braggart!! OK, just a little envy creeping in there... sorry, will try not to let it happen again... no promises. OK, your mag wells and the bottom of your bolt assemblies are bright and shiny, which I like from an asthetic point of view and more so from the practical side; did you use Flitz and a dremmel to get them that way? Or perhaps just silver plated...


braggart is ok, it took a long time to get there.:rolleyes:
they came that way. i sprayed some cleaner in them and wiped them out with a cotton rag, that's it. i don't do much to shine up anything. some have not even been cleaned yet. just out of the box into the safe. if i shoot them then i give the a good cleaning before and after, but no polishing or buffing.
ron

[jdub3]

anyways... we all love or hate Century... but back on topic. Just because the Cetme is not listed does NOT mean they are done with them. We had this discussion a few years back when the Cetme dropped off the website, and everyone thought that they were done. Lo and Behold they came out with another HUGE group of stamped rifles again.

I'm torn whether I want them to be done or not. Part of me wants them to be done so the value of mine goes up... another big part of me would love for there to be TONS more of them so more shooters can enjoy them... and since I have no plans to sell my Cetme, I lean toward the latter option.

I remember when that happened actually. Bam they were back. They will run out of parts one day though. But, since there are still sooo many G3's out there I wonder when we will see them flooding the scene instead of the CETME... Surely they are being replaced just like the FAL.