PSG-1 Trigger in a G3 Group?

[JayGeeWentWorth]

I think I have finally found a place to buy a PSG1 trigger and shoe without having to buy the whole trigger group. So my question is: does anyone know if a PSG1 trigger can be used in a G3 navy group?

[The Great 308]

I am not sure what the difference is between a Hk91 trigger and a PSG1 trigger. I know that the PSG1 adjustable trigger shoe will fit a regular HK91 trigger. The trigger shoes are fairly easy to find I have two of them. If you want to use the PSG1 trigger shoe just make sure that the back of the trigger is hollow rather than solid. I think most of the US made triggers are solid. My PTR91 triggers are and If I remember right my Century Cetme trigger was solid too.
If you want the performance of a PSG1 trigger group for significantly less than the cost of a PSG1 FCG then you should contact Denny at Williams trigger Specialties. You can get your standard HK FCG converted for $175 to $200 to a 2.5 pound pull.

http://www.williamstriggers.com/

Here is a link to my review of my Williams set trigger:

http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=154

[JayGeeWentWorth]

Thanks for the info .308. I wasn't aware that a shoe would fit on a standard 91/G3 trigger. That was the main reason I wanted the actual psg1 trigger because it is more streamlined and I thought the shoe was designed only to fit on that trigger.

If all I need is the shoe, do you have any idea where I can get one? I have been looking around and can't seem to find one.

[The Great 308]

I have one I would sell you for $30 shipped. PM me with your address if you want it.

[JayGeeWentWorth]

Is it an official HK one or a williams one?

[The Great 308]

I apologize I just took my G3 parts kit out to check it with the PSG1 trigger shoe and it does not fit. I had been told that they would fit and bought a few about two years ago but then I had the Williams set trigger job done with an adjustable trigger shoe so I never bothered to try them. If you are still interested just let me know. It may be possible to make it work I am not sure. The standard G3 trigger is slightly wider than the inside of the trigger shoe. To make it work you would have to modify the trigger.

The ones I have are actual HK

[JayGeeWentWorth]

Thanks for checking. I think I'll hold off at the moment, but if I do find a psg/msg trigger and also find that it will work in a G3 group I will definitely take a shoe. :thanks:

[The Great 308]

JayGeeWentWorth, good luck on your search and I will keep my eye open for a trigger for you. I have never seen one for sale separate from the entire PSG1 FCG which normally runs around $550. You might PM Perro and ask if he has one he would be willing to part with. I know that Perro bought some of these trigger shoes at the same time I did from the same source.

[The Great 308]

I was curious so I just called Gordon Miller at http://www.hkspecialist.net/index.htm . He said that he could not get the triggers seperate from the FCG. He does have the PSG1 FCG listed for $550.
He also said that he did not think that the PSG1 trigger would fit in an HK91 FCG.

[JayGeeWentWorth]

I talked to Marc from http://www.hkpartsonline.com and he said that he does have the triggers in stock, but confirmed that they won't fit in a G3/91 group. So I guess I'm out of luck as I'm really not willing to spend $550 just for a trigger group :icon_sad:. I appreciate your efforts though .308

[texlurch]

Guess you could always add the shoe, if that is what you were looking for originally

[JayGeeWentWorth]

Guess you could always add the shoe, if that is what you were looking for originally

Yeah, at this point all I really wanted was the look, feel, and adjustibility the psg/msg shoe offers. The problem is that Hk's shoe will only fit on a psg/msg trigger which won't work in a G3 group.

[texlurch]

Yeah, at this point all I really wanted was the look, feel, and adjustibility the psg/msg shoe offers. The problem is that Hk's shoe will only fit on a psg/msg trigger which won't work in a G3 group.


I imagine if you're creative enough you could get it to fit.....

[JayGeeWentWorth]

True, but I don't want to become known as Bubba.:bash:

[rustypirate]

Just get an extra G3 trigger to modify and keep the origiinal one as stock. No permanent modification means no "bubba" status.

[JayGeeWentWorth]

I'd eventually like to try to make a trigger shoe work with a standard G3 trigger. Right now, though, I am just a college student with little more at my disposal than a dremel and some wrenches and pliers and I'm not sure this will get the job done. I've also been spending way too much money on my rifle. I keep telling myself that I'm done spending, but I can't seem to stop.:2pistol:
Nonetheless, it's definitely something I'd like to pursue in the future.

[Otis61]

I'd eventually like to try to make a trigger shoe work with a standard G3 trigger. Right now, though, I am just a college student with little more at my disposal than a dremel and some wrenches and pliers and I'm not sure this will get the job done. I've also been spending way too much money on my rifle. I keep telling myself that I'm done spending, but I can't seem to stop.:2pistol:
Nonetheless, it's definitely something I'd like to pursue in the future.

As far as the spending, I think it gos up and down, For many here it's a life long thing.
As far as the dremel, you would be suprised at what you can acomplish with enough time, and patience. I'd say it's one of the most versital, if not the most versital, tools that you can use.:thumbup:

[The Great 308]

I'd eventually like to try to make a trigger shoe work with a standard G3 trigger. Right now, though, I am just a college student with little more at my disposal than a dremel and some wrenches and pliers and I'm not sure this will get the job done. I've also been spending way too much money on my rifle. I keep telling myself that I'm done spending, but I can't seem to stop.:2pistol:
Nonetheless, it's definitely something I'd like to pursue in the future.

After looking at a standard G3 trigger and the PSG1 trigger shoe side by side I am pretty sure that with a dremel and regular hand tools you could modify the trigger and make it work.

[JayGeeWentWorth]

As far as the spending, I think it gos up and down, For many here it's a life long thing.
As far as the dremel, you would be suprised at what you can acomplish with enough time, and patience. I'd say it's one of the most versital, if not the most versital, tools that you can use.:thumbup:

I don't mind putting money and effort into my rifle because, quite frankly, it's a lot of fun for me. As a college student though I'm trying to find a balance between what I want to buy and what I need to buy:nonono:

You're absolutely correct about the dremel. It has served me incredibly well over the few years I have had it. I'm not sure what I would have done without it in many cases.:rockon:

[JayGeeWentWorth]

After looking at a standard G3 trigger and the PSG1 trigger shoe side by side I am pretty sure that with a dremel and regular hand tools you could modify the trigger and make it work.

Good to hear. I am very much a do-it-yourselfer so it sounds like a fun little project. I was initially unsure if it could be done with a dremel because all I have ever seen are pictures of the shoe, psg1 trigger, and g3 trigger. The assembly I am using right now is a Cetme one. I have a navy G3 group coming in on Wed. so I'll see the g3 trigger soon enough. I've only seen profile pics of the psg-1 trigger and it looks to be remarkably slimmer than the g3 trigger. I also have no idea how the width compares to a g3 trigger and from the pics I have seen the psg1 trigger looks to be solid whereas the g3 trigger looks like it is hollow like me cetme trigger.

I was considering the possiblilty of welding the lower portion of a psg trigger to the upper portion of a g3 trigger. I'm not sure this is practical and I'm confident it won't be cheap because I myself don't know how to weld nor do I have the access to welding tools. That and with the fact of how difficult psg triggers are to find leads me to believe they will not be cheap.