let's see you AK pistols

[Planning]

this is some of mine. they are built on gen II ewbanks receivers.i have 8 of these and i am going to build 2 more.:thumbup:
i have a friend modifying the gas tube so i can put the wood hand guards (upper and lower) on one of them.
these look neat with a drum on them........:icon_biggrin:

[tanstaafl4y]

these look neat with a drum on them........:icon_biggrin:

:airtight: Awesome

[SteelCore]

If I ever did a regular AK build, my next would have to be a pistola.

[LostInTexas]

Here's mine:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k45/LostInTexas/pistol/6000047-1.jpg

[k98k792]

I don't have any. Sorry, but I don't see the point to them. They do look cool though.

[okie shooter]

I don't have any. Sorry, but I don't see the point to them. They do look cool though.
I guess its a way to build something like a krink(without the sbr, but you can take it home and play with it that day), but if you want to apply later for the sbr, you can then mount the folding stock. Just a thought, I have seen dealers pushing that point.

[Woodman in MO]

I thought once a pistol always a pistol and you can't SBR a pistol, or put a stock on it.

[okie shooter]

I thought it was the other way, once a rifle, you cannot make it a pistol, you have to make it a sbr, but a pistol can be made into a rifle, but then cannot be made back to a pistol, without doing the sbr to it.

Anyone have any links to something more definitive on this idea?

[nalioth]

I thought it was the other way, once a rifle, you cannot make it a pistol, you have to make it a sbr, but a pistol can be made into a rifle, but then cannot be made back to a pistol, without doing the sbr to it.

Anyone have any links to something more definitive on this idea?


Let me quote myself (from another forum)


When you buy a receiver from Harlan, it is a bare receiver, neither rifle or pistol. You have the 4473 marked as "rifle" (there is no such thing as "receiver only" on a 4473).

You take it home and build an AK pistol on it.
You go to fun show and the alphabet boys have questions.
They call Harlan and ask about the serial number.
He tells them it left his premises as a bare receiver.
They call the FFL that it was sent to.
The FFL tells them it arrived at his premises and left in your care as a bare receiver.

Pistol build is legal. No 'pistol'markings necessary.

Check your local/state laws on this subject.

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You buy a receiver from Harlan.
You build it into a rifle.
You sell the rifle to a friend in another state (via FFL transfer).
The friend comes to need money and sells it back to you (via your local FFL dealer)
You built it, you decide you want a pistol.
You demill it, and build a pistol on the receiver.

You've just built an illegal Short Barrelled Rifle.

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Once a rifle, always a rifle. Virgin receivers can be built into anything. Check your local/state laws as well.

The above legal pistol scenario can be further explored:

You get tired of your legal pistol build.
You strip it down and build a Romy rifle on it.
You have fun with your Romy, but notice you have no more room for rifles in your gun cabinet.
You strip the Romy rifle you built on the pistol receiver, and build the pistol back on that receiver.
You are the legal owner of an AK pistol.

Once a rifle, always a rifle.
A pistol receiver can be made into a rifle and the process reversed so long as it was legally a pistol FIRST

[jfowl31]

I wish FFL and receiver manufacturers would just all mark EVERY receiver as a pistol, so noone would ever be in violation! Sure would save all you pistol builders some headaches.

[nalioth]

I wish FFL and receiver manufacturers would just all mark EVERY receiver as a pistol, so noone would ever be in violation! Sure would save all you pistol builders some headaches. .... until somebody got the wise idea of building a pistol on his previously built virgin-receiver pistol receivered rifle receiver (that's marked 'pistol').

[G]

since it is a pistol build does that mean you don`t need compliance parts?

[tanstaafl4y]

I wish FFL and receiver manufacturers would just all mark EVERY receiver as a pistol, so noone would ever be in violation! Sure would save all you pistol builders some headaches.

Some states have varying laws reguarding the purchase of a pistol~VS~long gun. For example in VA you can only buy 1 handgun per month* but as many rifles as you want. Say all AK recievers or AR recievers are now marked pistol...can you see what I'm getting at.


* there are exceptions to the 1 a month rule.

[jfowl31]

besides the states with pistol laws... If the receiver is a pistol receiver, does it matter how many times its used to build a rifle/pistol?

I don't get your point Nalioth. If the guy you refer to wants to buid a pistol, he's got a pistol receiver right there in front of him, whether its being utilized on a rifle or a pistol, or what its past has been... if it was a pistol when he bought it, can't he make anything he wants out of it?

[nalioth]

since it is a pistol build does that mean you don`t need compliance parts?
Pistols are not accountable under the 922r law. You don't need any compliance parts.


besides the states with pistol laws... If the receiver is a pistol receiver, does it matter how many times its used to build a rifle/pistol?

I don't get your point Nalioth. If the guy you refer to wants to buid a pistol, he's got a pistol receiver right there in front of him, whether its being utilized on a rifle or a pistol, or what its past has been... if it was a pistol when he bought it, can't he make anything he wants out of it?

I guess I was thinking "virgin receiver" leading to 'once a rifle, always a rifle'. All this stuff confuses me. I don't build AK pistols, either.

[Woodman in MO]

I'm confused. If I take a take a rifle I built on a bare reciever. I can take off the stock and fix it so one can't be attached and call it a pistol? But then never turn it into a rifle again? Cause once a pistol always a pistol?

And can you take a pistol and paperwork it into a SBR? I don't see how cause that would mean it isn't a pistol anymore which is a no no....

[k98k792]

Thus the angels danced on the head of the pin.......

[pigpen]

Thats the bad thing about laws, the more you make, the more they start to contridct each other & make things confusing. Then you are more apt break a law & to go jail all because you are not a lawyer.

[Planning]

this was suppose to be for showing us your AK pistols. some how it gotten off the orginal subject, "pictures of AK pistols".

if you wanted to talk about building an AK pistol start a new thread.

thanks for hijacking the thread............:airtight:

capt ron