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nalioth
05-22-2007, 11:07 PM
Can anyone tell what this is?
bullseye
05-22-2007, 11:26 PM
Ak, wierd folding stock, barrel extension, 100 round banana mag trying to fill an anti-aircraft role with an eotech? If not it's a zombie rifle. :zombie:
kevin
05-22-2007, 11:31 PM
im actually thinking that may be a shotgun? with an extended mag that may hold 30 rounds or so

i think it looks retarded!
kevin
05-22-2007, 11:51 PM
speaking of it, is there a place out there that will convert the saiga 12 to ak like configuration?
bullseye
05-22-2007, 11:52 PM
that could explain the break on it.
nalioth
05-22-2007, 11:56 PM
speaking of it, is there a place out there that will convert the saiga 12 to ak like configuration? Yes, there are several, you can even do it yourself (converting a saiga is easier than building an Ak from a kit).
kevin
05-22-2007, 11:56 PM
what i noticed first was the size of mag, mag well, muzzle break, extension on barrel, and front of the receiver below the front of the bolt carrier

i think its a saiga 12 guage with a homemade 30 or so rd mag
kevin
05-23-2007, 12:04 AM
are they fairly accurate ? if i would convert the saiga 12 would i have to do anything to the barrel? it would be fun to be able to blast away with 10rds of 12 guage in rapid fire!
nalioth
05-23-2007, 12:06 AM
are they fairly accurate ? if i would convert the saiga 12 would i have to do anything to the barrel? it would be fun to be able to blast away with 10rds of 12 guage in rapid fire!
Converting a saiga involves moving the fire control group and for the rifles, modifying the mag well to take military surplus mags. Since you are doing a shotgun, all you'd be doing is fixing the fire control group.
kevin
05-23-2007, 12:08 AM
im just wondering where this would fall in the law, my state doesnt allow full auto, SBR, AOW's etc

would this be considered a rifle or shotgun? I cant see any legal issues, but you never know

i assume i would have to play the 922r game?
nalioth
05-23-2007, 12:09 AM
kevin917z see PM please
MicroPilot
05-23-2007, 12:10 AM
I don't think this is a Saiga. Notice the mag well and gas tube.

This is a picture of a Saiga:

http://www.saiga-12.com/images/Large/Saiga_12K.jpg
jonboy20
05-23-2007, 12:39 AM
Damn....nightmares of the 12 ga Saiga!!!! Nalioth know my pain!!!
Optimus Prime
05-23-2007, 12:46 AM
Back to the original picture, it's obviously the M-9000A3 Shoulder Fired Anti-Aircraft weapon system adopted by the Dept. of Homeland Security last week for part of the new Coach Bus Air Defense Corps. Der.
hunter_la5
05-23-2007, 06:54 AM
whatever it is, im sure planning has at least three :)
SteelCore
05-23-2007, 07:11 AM
...contestant for the bubba gun hall of fame.:bash:
jfowl31
05-23-2007, 07:16 AM
sure does look like it should be heavier than that guy is letting on.... or maybe he's monkey strong!

With that barrel, it looks like it should weigh 20 pounds! and he doesnt even look to be straining............
Geilt
05-23-2007, 08:42 AM
I am at a loss for words. And that's rare!

Its dang funny that he put a folding stock on something with a barrel that long. Probably couldn't fit it in the gun safe without it.

All he needs now is a front pistol grip, laser and bipod (realizing it would be useless with that magazine but as Bubba says... "An empty mounting point is a wasted mounting point. Use em if you gots em.")
MicroPilot
05-23-2007, 12:05 PM
sure does look like it should be heavier than that guy is letting on.... or maybe he's monkey strong!

With that barrel, it looks like it should weigh 20 pounds! and he doesnt even look to be straining............

Could be Photoshopped.
okie shooter
05-23-2007, 02:22 PM
Looks like a saiga-12 conversion(with the sight on the gas port, like I think the shot guns come with anyway or for sure they have no front sight base at all) cover mounted scope base and some sort of eotech or copy. The folder is some sort of factory, look at the mount built into the receiver trunion, not a ace or such. It looks like some sort of screw on barrel extension, look at where the end of the screwon chokes would fit, there is a barrel bulge there, where the extension is screwed on to the choke threads. The chokes on these look weird, this just seems to be a extension that used the choke threads.

As for the mag well, remember the one posted last week, with that sort of mag well extension. The mag throws me off, as all of the saiga-12 higher cap mags have been stright, or fairly stright, not curved like a rifle mag with a tapered body cartriage.
nalioth
06-09-2007, 10:05 AM
Found something else that makes no sense...
Norton
06-09-2007, 11:32 AM
Good God, I know there must be a 10/22 under all that. I can't understand the M 16 type butt stock. Why not make a JR PPsh 41 , if have the drum
hunter_la5
06-09-2007, 12:03 PM
Found something else that makes no sense...

talk about money well spent

well i guess if it makes him happy.... i guess...

but seriously what the hell? :eek:
nalioth
06-09-2007, 12:08 PM
talk about money well spent

well i guess if it makes him happy.... i guess...

but seriously what the hell? :eek: Evidentally none of the above, i found it in a "For Sale" thread on another forum.
hunter_la5
06-09-2007, 12:15 PM
Evidentally none of the above, i found it in a "For Sale" thread on another forum.

I'd be more than eager to sell that thing too :rolleyes:
nevada
06-09-2007, 02:27 PM
Perhaps there are zombie squirels where he lives.
RandyCOG3
06-11-2007, 10:04 PM
Perhaps there are zombie squirels where he lives.

I'm pretty sure you are 100% correct, because I can't imagine any other possible reasone for a tac light on a .22. Well, zombie rats, maybe, but they're both rodents.

I guess that's one heavy motha' of a light, 'cause it seems to require a grip of its own just to support it.

RandyCOG3
nalioth
06-11-2007, 11:20 PM
idle hands are the devils playground http://www.novarata.net/forum/images/smiles/devil.gif

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/combatcamera4671/P1010098.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/combatcamera4671/P1010090.jpg
GearShanty
06-11-2007, 11:20 PM
Could be Photoshopped.

Naw, they can't do that....
cbear
06-12-2007, 12:04 AM
speaking of it, is there a place out there that will convert the saiga 12 to ak like configuration?

Here's one of the big one's, there are others.
http://www.tromix.com/Welcome.htm

If you have the itch, go to saiga12.com
jfowl31
06-12-2007, 02:31 AM
That truck is DEFINITELY photoshopped. For 1 all the reflections on the back 2 doors, and the dirt spots are in the same place. And if you look closely at the background through the windows, you can see where they took the tree out of it, and placed in some more water. The piece they spliced in matches the same area of the front window exactly.



and...... call me crazy, but I think that 10-22 is badass! Thats a lot of fabrication, that really came out looking nice and fit... no matter how useable or unuseable it is, it still looks tight. I bet theirs more use for a tactical 22 than a private citizen owning a 50 bmg. I want both, no matter how useless many think they would be.

My G22 would be considered by many to be just as tactical, and I even have a light hanging off the bottom of it... and Ive shot probably 10 skunks in the middle of the night with it when the dogs started barking... and who knows how many rabbits, squirrels, coons, birds...... you name it.

My question would be why he would spend all the time and money doing up that conversion and then put some $20 leapers scope on top of it... That 1 teardrop 50 rounder is something like $60-70 last time I looked. I dont even know how much the drum costs.
okie shooter
06-12-2007, 07:28 AM
That 10/22 just never stops amazeing me how much money you can get into those rifles, I am sure that stock has to cost far more to buy than the rifles cost. Heck they make some super expensive wood target stocks for those too though.
Woodman in MO
06-12-2007, 09:07 AM
TAPCO is pushing their 10/22 tacky-cal stuff. At the NRA convention in April, they had one on display that was ATAS. kinda cool, but don't think it makes it any better.
Woodman in MO
06-12-2007, 09:08 AM
Naw, they can't do that....


Yes they can....
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2005-07/18733386.jpg
MicroPilot
06-12-2007, 09:16 AM
Yes they can....
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2005-07/18733386.jpg

That's not photoshop,














that's a hollywood sound stage!

:crazyeyes:
SteelCore
06-12-2007, 10:24 AM
Yikes! there's a WASR in there, somewhere...
Geilt
06-12-2007, 01:45 PM
That 10/22 just never stops amazeing me how much money you can get into those rifles, I am sure that stock has to cost far more to buy than the rifles cost. Heck they make some super expensive wood target stocks for those too though.

I have just over $600 in to one of my 10/22s at the moment. Granted $250 of that is from the barrel that is being made (Whistle Pig). Then $119 on the stock, $75 on getting the bolt worked over, mounts, optics, extractor, bolt guide and spring, the list goes on and on. I would feel bad about it but I am able to get sub 1/4" groups at 50 yards all day with it (assuming I do my part and use good ammo).

They can definitely be money pits.
nalioth
07-17-2007, 12:46 AM
That guys idle hands just won't stop . . . .

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/combatcamera4671/HaileyB-Day027.jpg
k98k792
07-17-2007, 09:02 AM
Personally I like it. Takes the AK to a modern level.

I don't understand what people have against Tac rails and modern optics. Both can be functional additions. The stock looks functional also,to raise the cheek weld for the scope. I don't hold the AK by the mag,but some do.

I like modding my WASR,since it is not an original military weapon,and not part of my collection of the same.

Honestly, I think some of you guys are stuck in the past. The days of wood stocks are coming to an end.
Grasshopper
07-17-2007, 10:48 AM
On the front of that things receiver, is it a milled receiver? I don't see any rivits (ribbits?).
okie shooter
07-17-2007, 12:31 PM
On the front of that things receiver, is it a milled receiver? I don't see any rivits (ribbits?).
I think you are talking about the monster on the first page? If you look its a bulged receiver, and the rivets are just harder to see. Two of them are under the extended handguard and the third is there, behind the bulge.
hunter_la5
07-17-2007, 08:26 PM
The days of wood stocks are coming to an end.

unfortunately :icon_confused:

I can understand maybe a scope rail, but other than that what's the point in having 3 rails that aren't even being used?
okie shooter
07-17-2007, 10:54 PM
Are we all going to lament when they become "phased plasma rifles in the 40w range" that there is no wood on them. Remember seventy years ago, sheet metal and aluminum were screemed at as much as plastics are now, as not right for firearms.

P.S., if you rememember in star wars, many of the firearms did have wooden stocks, on Tatawoene. I think for sure the blasters carred by the sand people, still had wood on them, or what looked like wood.
hunter_la5
07-17-2007, 11:10 PM
Are we all going to lament when they become "phased plasma rifles in the 40w range" that there is no wood on them.

Absolutely :)

I suppose you are right, I guess I just really like wood stocks on my firearms. That's my preference, but if you like plastic, or rails, or whatever, that's okay too I suppose

though I may still bitch about it regardless :wink: