M1 Carbine Selling Price

[Sampson1986]

I've got a mixmaster M1 Carbine that I might be selling soon. It is a Saginaw receiver with an Underwood barrel (dated 6-44) in 80%+ condition. It is an import but not butchered like some of the other import guns. I paid around $850 for it back in 2008, but I don't know if it's worth that much. What would be a fair asking price for this weapon?

[weasel_master]

Is it import stamped? I would saw $850 is out of the question. The can vary quite a bit, do you have any pictures?

[Sampson1986]

Is it import stamped? I would saw $850 is out of the question. The can vary quite a bit, do you have any pictures?

It has "Arl. Ord. Arlington, VA" stamped on the underside of the barrel in very small letters.

No pictures yet, have to find my camera.

There are some small imperfections on the gun, nothing major. It has a nice bore. The stock is beat to ********, but that is to be expected.

[Sampson1986]

ETA: Got pictures taken but can't get them to upload.

Try to work on 'em later.

[Orlando]

Yes its a Import. Dont mean to offend you but a Import mixmaster even if in very good condition is worth less than $600.00. With your stock being in bad condition even less
Just my opinion, yours may vary
Good luck with your sale

[Planning]

hold on, many of the saginaw receivers were built with underwood barrels in 1944. it may not be a mixmaster. before doing anything to the rifle you may want to do some more research. a few of them are rare.( it could be a $500 rifle or a $1000 rifle) do not refinish the rifle. it may be worth more like it is than if it is redone.
take the barreled reciever out of the stock and take a picture of the left rear side of the receiver.

( keep in mind most of the military M-1 carbine have been rebuilt, some several times.)

this IMHO.
please try again to post some pictures and maybe we can help.
ron

[Sampson1986]

hold on, many of the saginaw receivers were built with underwood barrels in 1944. it may not be a mixmaster. before doing anything to the rifle you may want to do some more research. a few of them are rare.( it could be a $500 rifle or a $1000 rifle) do not refinish the rifle. it may be worth more like it is than if it is redone.
take the barreled reciever out of the stock and take a picture of the left rear side of the receiver.

( keep in mind most of the military M-1 carbine have been rebuilt, some several times.)

this IMHO.
please try again to post some pictures and maybe we can help.
ron

Still having problems with photos. I'll work on them some more and try to get them up as soon as possible.

There is a "V" on the left side of the receiver. I have no idea what it means. I'm clueless about the different codes. Also, the barrel is funky - it has grooves (for lack of a better word) on it. I've never seen another M1 Carbine barrel that looks like this one does. Lettering is still good and has all the ordnance marks. According to the research I have done, this is one of the many guns that was put into storage and redone in the 1950's. It's definitely a shooter - that's what I wanted when I bought it. I'm not expecting to get $850 out of it - I don't think it's worth that much.

I'm actually trying to sell it to my dad, as he's expressed some interest in it. Regardless of who buys it, it's coming with a reproduction sling, reproduction pouch, oiler, 6 GI 15 round mags (3 very good, 3 mediocre), 2 30 round mags (don't know who made them), and about 200 rounds of .30 Carbine ammo.

It's a really nice gun, but it isn't what I expected. I've put less than 200 rounds through it since I've had it.

ETA: It looks similar to this one, although mine has late features.

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=9263&osCsid=e9987696262af4b5d6045f1b5d3190a1

[okie shooter]

As said above, its value is all over the place until someone with the knowlage looks at it, as said refinshing and such alters the value of these. Parts and rebuilds were very common out there though thus they will all sorts of variants out there. For value, to sell to dad, I would just work it out as you both are happy.

[Orlando]

I stand by my estimate as he alreadt stated its a mixmaster with late parts. You could add alittle to the estimate for extras.
A serial number would help confirm my opinion

[chili]

One thing to keep in mind, during WW2 carbine mfgr's would sometimes get parts from other companies to meet production demands. So it is very possible to have the stated barrel/receiver combo and still be orginal to that particular rifle.

[Orlando]

I'm not questioning the barrel/receiver,(its possible ,wont know without the serial) its the rest thats been reworked with later parts as suggested by the OP.

[Sampson1986]

I'm not questioning the barrel/receiver,(its possible ,wont know without the serial) its the rest thats been reworked with later parts as suggested by the OP.

Serial number is 17678xx.

I don't know which parts have been replaced, but pretty sure the bolt is a replacement part.

Here's some codes for yall -
Stock: RIA EB left side, P on the underside, very faint ordnance mark on the right side.
Receiver: V on left side.
Trigger group: WB-LP-21104 on underside of trigger guard.
Hammer: I
Slide: S
Bolt: No code?
Rear site: J.A.O. 160060
Magazine catch: M WA
Barrel band: JM
Barrel has the flaming bomb on it and the barrel date is 6-44.

Those are all the marks I see from my basic field strip. I don't really want to take the trigger group apart to see if there are any codes on the trigger or sear.

[Orlando]

RIA/EB stamp on the stock is a post-war overhaul or inspection stamp from Rock Island Arsenal


'WB LP" is a stamp that the German Police put on parts
I on hammer is Inland
J A O on sight is Inland
S on slide is Standard Products
Thats all I can remember off the top of my head.
I'm sure someone else can dig the info out of a book

[Sampson1986]

'WB LP" is a stamp that the German Police put on parts


That confused one of my Carbine owning friends. He used to ask me what it meant, as if I knew.

[chili]

I'm not questioning the barrel/receiver,(its possible ,wont know without the serial) its the rest thats been reworked with later parts as suggested by the OP.

I think we get too wrapped up in what is "correct" and lose focus on the fact it is still GI issue and used in the defense of teh USA.

[Orlando]

Only went that way becuase he was asking a value which correctness plays a huge role in

[chili]

I know.

[Sampson1986]

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Sorry for the low quality pics. My dad's digicam is MIA and mine is a relic.

Couldn't get any decent bore shots.

[lumbergh]

Nice rifle!

These seem to have climbed since CMP stopped selling...

Lumbergh

[mitchstoner]

What about those Blue Sky imports from Korea that were re-parked? Is the value about the same as a non-refinished mixmaster shooter?

I'm sure they got enough use over the years that there's been a lot of parts replacement, so there's probably not a lot of original anywhere on them. I've seen 2 and both were stuck back in beat up wood after the refinish.

[Orlando]

For the most part the Blue Skys were worn out junkers. Not all but alot of them. I had some experience with them in the early 1980's
A Import marked rifle is always going to be worth less than a non Import marked rifle of same condition