Another Price Hike Warning

[Seattlefungus]

Wholesalers are warning retailers that June 1, prices will be going up another 19%...
Oh Happy Day... NOT

[SteelCore]

Hopefully that will not hit at the Indy 1500 G&K show...I'm going on Sat. (June 2).

[M1 Tanker]

As long as people keep buying, especially panic buying, the prices are going to increase. For example, we know that no South Africian has been imported since 2005, but it keeps turning up in small lots at various vendors at higher prices. Thats smart business on their part, with high demand comes high prices.

[Geilt]

Welcome to the free market economy and the rules of supply and demand.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to the prices for US mande surplus ammo when we eventually start reducing our presence in Iraq.

[kevin]

i didnt think they were allowed to sell US suplus ammo to civilians?

[okie shooter]

Welcome to the free market economy and the rules of supply and demand.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to the prices for US mande surplus ammo when we eventually start reducing our presence in Iraq.

i didnt think they were allowed to sell US suplus ammo to civilians?
Demilled or destroyed is the rule, we cannot let it go off plant in any form that was useable for ammunition items, have to either destroy it, or take it apart and deform metal parts so they can not be reused as ammunition.

The sa was sold rather than demilled thus the south africian goverment is hacked and wont let the stuff leave any more.

[SteelCore]

Oh? Then what is that winchester 762 NATO headstamped stuff going for 50cents per round?

[okie shooter]

Oh? Then what is that winchester 762 NATO headstamped stuff going for 50cents per round?
It hasent been accepted by the goverment as us property, thus is not within the military's control, most of it has been labled as either over runs of existing stocks from when winchester ran lake city,(currently ran by atk, which most of us know as federal, part of the old honeywell corp). Thus its marked for range work, not for acceptance by the army. Also new winchester ammo, can be made and marked to military specification, but not bought by the military, much of the old white box stuff and other mil spec ammo, ends up at retailers.

[M1 Tanker]

Thats not the same thing Steelcore. Winchester is a private company that can run ammuniation and sell it. Just because it has a NATO headstamp doesn't mean it was ever sold to the US Military.

EDIT, Okie you beat me to it. :)

[Geilt]

... so unless some foreign gov't sees fit to bestow us with the kind gift of surplus ammo, the days of cheap shooting are over?

[okie shooter]

Geilt, I guess how cheap is cheap is the question?(three bucks a box for shooting my ak and sks was about where it was when the first chinese ammo ban hit) There will almost always will be places that makeing ammo, and shipping it here will be cheaper than makeing it here, also there are countries that proablly will ship surplus ammo here if the wholesalers can ensure that the end user is the US shooting public. The thing about the s.a. stuff is that there was a huge loss of trust on the end disposal of the stuff. (guys we are talking countries getting rid of tens to hundreds of millions of rounds, not thousands, thus the man with big pockets able to buy those amounts, might sell it to unfriendly places)

As long as there is a good market in this country, companies like wolf, will continue to bring in ammo, and other wholesalers that can gain the trust of the countries selling the ammo that it wont end up on the open markets of the arms dealers will still get stuff in. Just maybe some of the wild and wolley days, of the eastern bloc dumping war reserves is over, thats what has fuled the glut of 7.62x45, 8mm, 5.44x39 and other calibers to become so cheap over the last few years.(for those that remember the cz-52 rifle, not pistol, and the fact its a oddball caliber but came in with ammo so cheap it was hard to not get one).

I have said it my self, in the early eighties, the only 7.62x54 out there in this country was Norma, heck and at twenty a box twenty five years ago, that was some real money.

The glory days of importing newly made ammo are getting tighter too, as the dollar vs the euro(what the russians are pegged to) is one of the factors too.

[vpost]

At my local gun store today, they had for sale 200 rnd serb battle pack for $150.00 I just about flipped!!!!!!!!!!!

[SteelCore]

good to know.

At the 1500 this past weekend, prices were up a bi, but I attribute that to the sellers who had to truck it over here and paid more for gas, and the deflating dollar which is now equal to the Canadian dollar.

So 1000rnds of Wolf 762x39 cost about 190USD for what cost 162 4 months ago,

and 880 rnds of Czech or Hungarian 762x54 was about 115usd, where it was about 90-100 last time.

once we get into 30cents a round, for whatever I shoot, then I have to think about it.

[jlpskydive]

190??? That makes me feel alot better about the 160 I paid two weeks ago.

[richl]

hell with it . I'm cash in my 401k thats worth about 250k and buy ammo and retire in a year .......

i hate to say this but every 4-5 years the ammo prices jump for a while and fall back down a tad bit .... but no matter how much we whine . we still buy it ............:icon_neutral:

before you scream at 3 bucks for 20 rounds.. if it makes you feel any better i can do 2 rounds ( reloaded) for me Barrett for that

[Enigma Nostra]

same with my .50 AE mate.

-E

[Planning]

:airtight::icon_biggrin::thumbup::wink:

[weasel_master]

I'm glad I listened to Ron and bought up.