Westboro again

[RicePaddyDaddy]

They're heading for the cameras again.There has got to be a peaceful legal way to keep them out.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/01/09/westboro-baptist-church-to-picket-funeral-of-9-year-old-tucson-shooting-victim/

[okie shooter]

There is, everyone needs to take up any space near by the services so they are so far away they cannot be heard. That worked here, just dont slash their tires, so they can leave town peacefully too.

[drine]

All the talk of negative rhetoric inciting this psycho to do what he did but no talk about the hatred these "good Christians(Westboro)" stir up in us normal people. That's dual standard Liberalism for you.

[slim]

i agree with Okie....this can be handled without any more (although warranted) vandalism or any violence....or without any new legislation.

[slim]

All the talk of negative rhetoric iciting this psycho to do what he did but no talk about the hatred these "good Christians(Westboro)" stir up in us normal people. That's dual standard Liberalism for you.

exactly.....use the subject only when it suits your own agenda...as if we the people don`t see right thru that? :walkdoor:

[rpmfly2]

Guess I'm showing my age again! More and more it's OK for radicals to "do their thing" than for the peaceful majority to just go about everyday life. Some day, some how and somewhere they will get theirs! Everyone just needs to vote and pray! These people look like fools and they are ALL FOOLS!:rolleyes: How do you think the Liberals squeeze the middle in their top down bottom up!


All the talk of negative rhetoric iciting this psycho to do what he did but no talk about the hatred these "good Christians(Westboro)" stir up in us normal people. That's dual standard Liberalism for you.

[okie shooter]

Remember the thoughts and ideals of this radical group is simular to some of the groups that founded this country. Remember for many of the early groups here, freedom of religion was for their own religion, rallying against the Church of England. Thus some colonies had very little tollerance for other religions other than the ones that they were founded upon.

These folks have more in common with many of those groups just in ideals that are hundreds of years out of style and acceptance.

They want confrontation and such, Marginalization of them defeates their purpose. Ingnore and keep them away would hurt them the most. Make them ingnored by the media and such. I speak from a town that has had them here too.

[jdowney]

Oh man okie, I'm gonna have to argue with you again :D No hard feelings man.


Remember the thoughts and ideals of this radical group is simular to some of the groups that founded this country. Remember for many of the early groups here, freedom of religion was for their own religion, rallying against the Church of England.

Wrong, the groups you refer to fled England due to persecution of what was deemed radicalism at the time. No one is persecuting the Westboro group, they are attempting, in their very ineffective yet offensive way, to persecute those of us who don't agree with them. As a result, people hate them. Well that's just too damn bad, they stepped in it, it's not my fault if they find something unpleasant sticking to their shoe.


Thus some colonies had very little tollerance for other religions other than the ones that they were founded upon.

How could comparison to such intolerance possibly improve the Westboro bunch's position? Their nutso intolerance is ok because others throughout history shared the same failing? It is still a failing.


These folks have more in common with many of those groups just in ideals that are hundreds of years out of style and acceptance.

As far as I'm concerned, they may hold whatever ideals they wish on two conditions. First that they don't attempt to force their ideals on me, and second that if they wish to convince me, they ideals must hold up to some kind of rational analysis. They fail in both respects. That the are actively and tastelessly offensive is just the icing on the cake, I have no sympathy for these people whatsoever. Their problems are 100% of their own making. I will tolerate a lot, but not that.


They want confrontation and such, Marginalization of them defeates their purpose. Ingnore and keep them away would hurt them the most. Make them ingnored by the media and such. I speak from a town that has had them here too.

Here I agree with you 100%, that is the practical route to take.

[okie shooter]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/12/AR2011011202545.html

From the above

Church agrees to not protest slain child's funeral


The Associated Press
Wednesday, January 12, 2011; 11:39 AM

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A Kansas church has decided to not protest at the funeral of a 9-year-old girl killed in a shooting rampage in Tucson, Ariz.
Shirley Phelps-Roper of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka says church members will skip Thursday's funeral of Christina Taylor Green in Tucson.
Phelps-Roper says the church decided against the picket in exchange for airtime with 102.1 The Edge in Toronto, Canada, and an interview with KXXT-AM in Phoenix, Ariz. on Saturday morning.
Phelps-Roper says the group will picket the Friday funeral of U.S. District Judge John Roll and at the intersection where Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Gabrielle_Giffords) and others were shot.
The Arizona Legislature unanimously passed a measure Tuesday banning protests at or near funeral sites.
The Topeka Capital-Journal first reported the church's decision to skip the girl's funeral.

[RicePaddyDaddy]

Good deal.More states should stand up to them.

[ctdemolay0405]

cant people get restraining orders against the group as a whole? In a lot of states, there are ways to get a quick and dirty, though temporary restraining order - it would be worth getting in some circumstances.

[DaCapster]

or run their buss off a cliff.....

[mitchstoner]

The problem with restraining orders and passing laws against them, they will go to court claiming violation of their First Amendment freedoms. Even Westboro, Nazis, and the KKK are supposed to be allowed freedom to spew their garbage.

But that doesn't stop me from fantasizing about being the one who crowds their van over the edge of a thousand foot drop-off as they tool down the highway towards their next protest.

[ctdemolay0405]

well, AZ did the right thing and banned them from attending the funerals.

I know this is an infringement of the 1A rights, but just like everything else, there is a time and place - and 1A does have other restrictions - no "fire" in a crowded theater, etc, no hate speech that can spark riots, etc.