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tomoshenko
05-30-2007, 10:17 PM
CONCORD, N.H. -- Someone found mentally incompetent to stand trial in New Hampshire still may be competent to own guns, the state Supreme Court ruled Wednesday.

The court overturned a Concord District Court ruling in which a man was denied his weapons after being found mentally incompetent to stand trial on theft, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest charges for an outburst at Division of Motor Vehicles headquarters in Concord three years ago.

Scott Buchanan took the issue to court after authorities refused to give two guns back.

The court ruled the criteria for being found incompetent to stand trial were different from the legal standard for being declared mentally defective under federal law -- the standard by which gun ownership can be denied.

The high court directed Concord District Court to have another hearing to reconsider whether Buchanan meets the "mental defective" criteria.

The court ruled that a competency determination focuses on whether a defendant has a "rational and factual" understanding of a case and can reasonably assist in a defense. The state competency law does not, however, address the federal "mental defective" standards of whether a person is dangerous or unable to manage personal affairs, the court said.

"Because it appears the trial court ruled as a matter of law that 'adjudicated as a mental defective' means the same thing as incompetent to stand trial, we hold that it erred," the court ruled.

Buchanan was arrested Nov. 24, 2004, after a confrontation with a highway safety officer at the state DMV office in Concord.

Police seized a gun from Buchanan's car, and Buchanan later surrendered a second firearm as a result of a bail order while the charges were pending against him, Senior Assistant Attorney General Ann Rice told The Telegraph of Nashua.

The charges were dismissed after Buchanan was found incompetent to stand trial because of his excessive and unusual paranoia about police and government, according to court records.

pigpen
05-30-2007, 10:26 PM
The charges were dismissed after Buchanan was found incompetent to stand trial because of his excessive and unusual paranoia about police and government, according to court records.


Dude, I gotta remember that one!

SSwee
05-30-2007, 10:28 PM
And what will they rule when due to his paranoia about government and police he opens up on someone with the two guns they gave back to him. Just another of many examples of stupid smart people making laws and rulings on laws. Common sense is dead in most gene pools.
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okie shooter
05-31-2007, 07:32 AM
If you read that news clip, though he may not get his firearms back, due to the fact that the higher court ordered the lower court to see if his problem that kept him from trial(hmmm paranoia of the government), and see if his defect meets the requirement of the federal laws.

I guess its just the court automatically suspended his right to bear arms, due to the adjudication of the trial court, without looking if he really met the definition of mental defective as not to own firearms. So if in the review of the case, the court still finds the guy meets the definition, all the court has to do is assess the guy again, rather than using the first determination that by not being able to stand trial makes him automatically defective.

I am of the opinion can you have your cake and eat it too, maybe in some cases yes and no, but his defense against having to go to trial was paranoia of government, and that kept him from trial. Thus does he have a defense against them taking away things that could make him a danger to himself and others due to his paranoia, and conversely threatening the government which he seems to have a problem already?

Grasshopper
05-31-2007, 09:46 AM
I dont know the guy but if you read the Constitution of these United States, you COULD use the "common welfare" clause to make sure this guy is NOT a frut cake.
Let me ask you this, just to rattle some thinking here. Was David Koresh "paranoid"? The US government, yes, that means us, all of us, burned his place to the ground, brought in the military against the possie commatawhatever law and blew the shit out of them.
This guy probrably needs serious help but he might have a point in his diseased mind.:devil1: