This i why i have a distrust for my local government.

[MID]

Milwaukee Police officer, charged with being an illegal alien.

By the way in milwaukee, any police officer that is fired will receive full pay and full benies, untill a hearing with the police professional commitee. The comitee will not hear any case if there is still an on going trial.

This scum is still getting paid.


Heres the story, try and put a spin on that.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=612927

[Seattlefungus]

Well, I read it. It doesn't say he beat anyone. It said he was hired under a program which five years ago came under fire during the investigation of the beating of Frank Jude Jr. and was later overhauled. Because a lot of the persons hired under the program were getting in trouble. It looks to me that the only thing they have on this guy is he took the identity of a dead relative to claim he was a US Citizen...

[Norton]

Oh they will let him stay and keep the money.. It will be delayed until amnesty is granted. Then he will be given his job back plus a bonus for all his trouble.
To quote Chalton Heston in the 1968 Movie 'Planet of the Apes'

'It's a Mad house!'

[k98k792]

Here are reasons to trust your police force,These guys gave their life for the citizens of your city.
http://milwaukeepoliceassoc.com/finalrollcall.php



An Angel In The Sky Must Leave His Place Of Rest,
Gently Tucking His Wings Beneath His Armored Vest.
For Duty Has Called, There Is Much Work To Do
Little Did He Know, This One Is Dressed In Blue.
Arriving On The Scene, He Knows Just What To Say,
"Follow Me, Fallen Brother, I'll Show You The Way."
"Your Duty Has Ended, Your Work Is Now Through."
"Come Hang Your Hat Beside Mine. I'm A Cop, Too."

Author Unknown


"may these heroes not be forgotten"

Name Appointed Died

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Frank Pisczek
No Record
06/22/1884

John Kassow
No Record
09/30/1889

Ernest Johnson
02/01/1900
09/15/1904

Otto Flieth
No Record
12/17/1908

Peter Gauer
06/01/1907
07/03/1909

Frank Caswin
02/01/1915
11/24/1917

Henry Deckert
10/21/1913
11/24/1917

Fred Kaiser
02/07/1905
11/24/1917

David O'Brien
11/04/1897
11/24/1917

Stephen Stecker
12/01/1899
11/24/1917

Charles Seehawer
12/01/1899
11/24/1917

Edward Spindler
07/01/1903
11/24/1917

Al Temlin
10/17/1904
11/24/1917

Paul Weiler
12/13/1906
11/24/1917

William Kaemmerling
01/26/1919
01/26/1922

Joseph Kubacki
03/01/1919
05/24/1924

Walter Luedtke
06/04/1921
12/18/1924

Harold Schmidt
02/09/1923
04/04/1925

Hilbert Thurow
07/09/1926
08/22/1930

Robert Bahlke
01/03/1922
02/23/1932

Richard Zingler
04/26/1924
02/08/1933

Harry Pieske
06/04/1921
06/27/1935

Charles George
01/08/1930
06/08/1936

Nels Goodman
05/04/1925
08/10/1937

George Raabe
05/27/1929
11/02/1937

Joseph Lecher
02/23/1933
03/21/1943

Arnold Werner
06/01/1942
07/10/1943

Valentine Adam
01/02/1948
03/06/1948

Elmer Bates
05/01/1939
08/23/1948

Vernon White
08/11/1941
11/10/1951

Raymond Nencki
01/02/1948
10/05/1959

Robert Kraemer
02/22/1960
02/07/1963

James Rivers
07/22/1957
03/21/1966

Ronald Hogan
08/11/1952
05/02/1967

Bryan Moschea
10/04/1965
07/31/1967

George Fish
03/19/1962
09/22/1970

Alan Sroczynski
01/03/1966
11/08/1970

Paul Du Planty
07/20/1970
11/09/1971

Gerald Hempe
11/21/1966
01/31/1973

Charles Smith
05/22/1972
01/31/1973

Ronald Reagan
05/06/1968
12/13/1973

Thomas Matulis
07/20/1970
07/10/1974

Robert Riley
07/08/1968
07/10/1974

Michael Draeger
10/20/1969
12/28/1974

Dennis Obradovich
05/05/1969
08/18/1975

Albert Kohn
11/02/1953
10/29/1975

Thomas Kiefer
05/21/1973
11/25/1977

John Machajewski
07/23/1978
12/23/1981

Charles Mehlberg
02/19/1978
12/23/1981

Sydney Snow Jr.
10/13/1975
01/30/1982

Rosario Collura
10/10/1966
03/19/1985

Leonard Lesnieski
03/26/1969
03/19/1985

Dennis Gorlewski
11/21/1960
03/25/1987

Roger Sterling
07/20/1981
05/11/1987

Steven Hasenstab
11/03/1980
08/19/1989

Richard Wagner
11/19/1973
10/25/1990

Michael Tourmo
04/20/1975
11/18/1990

William Robertson
09/27/1993
09/07/1994

Michael Niehoff
10/28/1991
11/30/1994

Wendolyn Tanner
11/09/1992
09/07/1996

[MID]

The you guys must like this one two.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=611565

And the system has not be overhauled. They still get payed.

[k98k792]

So because I don't buy that your hatred of the Police is due to two different cases of corruption. You are saying I like things like that?

[okie shooter]

I guess the union that he is a member is scum according to some, as they negonate the contract outlining his due process rights. Thus heck all of the cops are just closeing ranks to protect their rights, which give him the same protection as a union member. I guess since its all just a union protecting the guy, heck we should just label all unions that give certian protections in due processes in fireings that label as scum too. hmmm guess unions protecting the process rights of their member is just wrong.

So due process in union contracts should be null and void if you dont like the case they are applied to.

Btw, read the article, it says its a state law that LEO, get paid while the process occours. Thus its out of the hands of the local authorties.

[iocane]

That he is still getting payed is a minor concern. That he got the job in the first place, that is a huge concern.
Heres what worries me, either Americas enemies are so stupid they can't take advantage of huge holes in security or we are in for a whole lot of trouble.

[okie shooter]

If you understand how identy in this country is made, the guy assumed the dead cousin years ago, thus was able to build a trail of id, along with ties to his fingerprints.

[Geilt]

I live in Wisconsin and travel to Milwaukee on business frequently. While I don't necessarily agree with MID's point of view it is very common in the Milwaukee area.

In the past 18-24 months there have been a lot of problems with the MPD; charges of corruption, abuse of power, beatings, shootings and some claims of racism. Crime in general has also been increasing in the area and certain groups are saying the police aren't doing enough to address it. Basically, Milwaukee is seeing its share of problems and the police department is bearing more than its fair share of blame.

[HirschJager]

Being from Milwaukee, I realize that the MPD has had a lot of bad press
(Shomperland, Bembenik, Dahmer, Jude) but is it really any worse than any other medium/large city? I agree though that this guy should NEVER have been on the force and should do time for what he did.

K's list has me wondering what the hell happened on 11-24-17? Nine officers died. Guess I'll have to look that up.

*edit* Apparantly it was a bomb planted at a church by anarchists and found by two boys who brought it to the station where it went off.

-HJ

[glimmerman]

I used to live in Milwaukee (got the hell out 2 yrs ago. just fed up with this kind of burocratic crap in milwaukee) moved to a small town in western WI. First of all this knot head does not have any rights in this country as he is not a citizen!! He should be charged and deported with a warning that if he comes back to this country illegaly he will do his time in a federal prison!! Also any and all of his pension should be returned to the city. I could rant about this crap for hours but i wont. Just my .02 worth.:wallbash:

[Rampager]

Most lawmen are great and I highly respect what they do for us.:thumbup:

That said, this guy in particular first broke the law by ignoring our nations laws by being here illegally, then he used identify theft as a tool to get a job, no doubt using affirmative action as a crutch in the process. He certainly has no place in law enforcement that is for sure.

This type of criminal lawbreaker not only puts a black eye on law enforcement but on the legal immigrant/hispanic community as well. We as a nation owe nothing to this criminal but a trip back to the border and a promise of mandatory federal prison time if he ever returns.

:America:

[subknave]

I agree that the main concern is that he got the job in the first place. Funny thing is that as a police officer he essentially had more rights/less restrictions than the rest of us. He could pretty much carry his firearm anywhere he wanted. He could have an automatic weapon. Lets just say for example that he was actually a terrrorist or decided to help them out. With this kind of laxness in background checking etc. he could have had access to any number of things.
Incidentally the story about the Anarchists bomb should remind us that what we today call terrorists are nothing new despite all the hysteria generated in the press.

[Rampager]

Exactly!... this is one reason why I as an American take illegal occupation and real border control so seriously!

So just how long is it gonna take for some terrorist group to figure out (remember these are some cunning folks we are dealing with).... Recruit some radical Muslims from Spanish speaking areas of North Africa.....don't fly into NYC or DC while jibbering in Arabic using false passports and carrying WMD's....no, just fly into central America somewhere (I'm sure the security is tight there and they could never be bribed).

Speak Spanish...don't wear rags on heads and dresses, instead wear jeans and T-shirts at all times...trucks getting checked at the border?...head North....so on and so forth ...let your imagination go for there. It wouldn't take a genius to figure this out. My god, what's it gonna take to get people to wake up. These are the same folks that thought nothing of flying planes full of men women and children into buildings.

This is going to happen if we don't start controlling all our nations borders. I can't believe 9/11 wasn't a wake up call to most Americans on this open border threat. :rantmeter:

:America:

[NavajoNPaleFace]

I will hold out much comment until the jury comes back. Right now everything is alledged and we all know agencies and PDs can be wrong from time to time.

If, in fact, he violated a law then he needed not represent those who enforce them. If that becomes the case he is not in the brotherhood.

[Fido Dog]

Seems like he became a leo for his love of this country. He was defending the streets.

I wouldn't be too hard on the guy.

What I mean is that he could have gotten on welfare, became a pimp, drug dealer............he chose to put his life on the line to protect citizens.