108b

[Ironhorse3]

Here in the near future I'm hoping to beable to pick up another battle rifle. The ones I have now are 308 and I want to pick up a 223. The one that has caught my interest is the Armalite 108B. I would like to here feed back good or bad please. Thank you.

[Optimus Prime]

They look silly.

[MicroPilot]

What exactly is the 180B? It looks like maybe a FAL type chambered for.223 that uses AR mags?

Armalite AR-180B (http://www.armalite.com/sales/catalog/rifles/ar180b.htm)

[nalioth]

The Armalite 18 was in the running for the US military rifle at one time. It was designed to be manufactured cheaply from stampings and it shares some internal parts with the AR15.

It is gas piston driven (not direct gas impingement) and imho, a much better military rifle thatn the AR15.

A bit of background from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR18

[MicroPilot]

Cruffler.com Jan 2002 review of AR-180B (http://www.cruffler.com/Features/JAN-02/review-January-02.html)

[okie shooter]

Ok everyone knows what the most famious product of Armalite, was but never made it untill they sold it to Colt, the AR-15 223 rifle adopted by the US army as M-16. Thus armalite wanted not to totaly lose out on the new battle rifle trend going to 223 rifles, and with the early problems the army had with the m-16 by colt, due to mainly its own doing, armalite rushed a new design that didnt rely on the stoner patents with the ar system, but would produce a rival rifle to the m-16(they kept the rights to the ar-10 but could not use system in a 223 rifle). Thus the ar-18 was born.

The dang thing has been incarnated by many makers, in the us, japan, england and now here again. I just dont like the polymer receiver.

[turbothis]

i would like to get a sheet metal one and see how they run. one or two seem to pop up at my local gun shows but are priced from 700-1200$

[Ironhorse3]

okie shooter,
What about the polymer lower that you don't like? Any known problems with it or is it personal preference? Thanks.

[okie shooter]

I had heard that they has some issues with the pivots for the upper/lower receiver pin. One place in my opnion that would need to be really strong, or you could break pivot ears right off of the receiver. That said you could do it with almost any two peice receiver if you wernt careful that had one pivot point and ears to break.

I guess thats why I keep stearing away from getting a kel-tec too, I will defend aluminum, and really shouldnt have a problem with the carbon fiber filled polymers any more but still do.