Ware can I find G1 parts kits?

[Damien]

Cant find any and whats the diffrance between fn-fal and G1 if I said that rite.:eek: Im confused.Would like to build a few diffrent fals.

[AndyC]

The G1 was made by FN for the Germans - 100,000 of them, starting in 1956. Apparently, when the Germans wanted to manufacture their own under license to FN, the Belgians refused (allegedly still miffed about the German invasion during WWII) - and eventually the Germans took the CETME design and cranked out the G3 starting around 1959.

In other words, the G1 *is* an FN-FAL - it was just a specific type made for Germany. It usually has a type 1 receiver, the same metal handguards commonly associated with the Austrian STG58, wooden stock and pistol-grip, long flash-hider and an integral bipod. It's also slightly unusual in that there is no bayonet-lug on the G1 - the Germans ordered it specifically that way.

Here's a nice example:

http://www.kueng-waffen.ch/web02/BilderSerienwaffen/111-1192_IMG.JPG

Edit: To find kits, you could keep an eye on the Marketplace here, falfiles.com or online auctions such as gunbroker.com

[Damien]

cool thanks for the info. by the way witch reciver mfg do you think is best and why?

[AndyC]

DSA receivers almost build themselves, followed by DCI (if you can find any). Century seems to be getting on the ball these days, according to reports - but I'd still stay away from Entreprise and Hesse/Vulcan.

All of the above can be made to work, given enough time, knowledge and elbow-grease - but I would purchase a receiver in the above order of manufacturer (I bought DSA).

[Seattlefungus]

Nice FAL Pic!!:thumbup:

[Damien]

DSA it is then I've herd they are good else ware thanks for the info.

[M1 Tanker]

DCI (nodakspud.com) makes an excellent receiver. Here is my G-1 on a DCI receiver.

2570

[Damien]

According to nodakspud they don't know when they are getting any more receivers in from DCI.Thanks for the info M1.

[Damien]

nice pic

[okie shooter]

Didnt, the germans destroy the last of their rifles, rather than selling them off to surplus dealers, Atleast thats what I thought I had read. Either the austrians or the germans got into a parmimentary fight over disposition of their armies old rifles. Does any one remember this?

[M1 Tanker]

All the German G-1s went to Turkey the late 50's I believe, so no.

[Player]

The G1 was made by FN for the Germans - 100,000 of them, starting in 1956. Apparently, when the Germans wanted to manufacture their own under license to FN, the Belgians refused (allegedly still miffed about the German invasion during WWII) - and eventually the Germans took the CETME design and cranked out the G3 starting around 1959.

In other words, the G1 *is* an FN-FAL - it was just a specific type made for Germany. It usually has a type 1 receiver, the same metal handguards commonly associated with the Austrian STG58, wooden stock and pistol-grip, long flash-hider and an integral bipod. It's also slightly unusual in that there is no bayonet-lug on the G1 - the Germans ordered it specifically that way.

Here's a nice example:

http://www.kueng-waffen.ch/web02/BilderSerienwaffen/111-1192_IMG.JPG

Edit: To find kits, you could keep an eye on the Marketplace here, falfiles.com or online auctions such as gunbroker.com

Tanker's G1 is B-eu-ti-ful by the way
looks even better in real life, and has AWESOME wood on it

[nalioth]

Didnt, the germans destroy the last of their rifles, rather than selling them off to surplus dealers, Atleast thats what I thought I had read. Either the austrians or the germans got into a parmimentary fight over disposition of their armies old rifles. Does any one remember this?


All the German G-1s went to Turkey the late 50's I believe, so no.
... isn't that the same as destroying them? :eek:

[M1 Tanker]

While mine was rough, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as the crap out of Yugoslavia. It was very worn, but 100% functional with a worn, but clean barrel. I think the Turks were rough on them, but not as rough as the stuff that comes out of the Combloc.

[bas@gunpics]

Most of the G1's went to Turkey. But a number stayed in Germany and were issued to Police and Boarder guards (my G1 is an example of one of the latter and was issued to the Hamburg police).

There they stayed in service till the late 1980's when they were retired and most got destroyed in the early nineties as Germany got all PC on military rifles. Some got converted to semi-auto and were exported (with a couple reaching our shores but no idea how many).

Here's an interesting post from the AR15 FAL forums made by a German police officer that was trained on the G1:


I've received training with the G1 rifle in the fall of 1989, when I entered the "Bereitschaftspolizei" (riot police), after having completed 2 1/2 years of police academy and an introductory phase.

The presence of G1 rifles in the police inventory has been a relict of the cold war. The G1 rifles were former Bundeswehr equipment, given to the police after the Bundeswehr had completed the adoption of G3 rifles manufactured by Heckler & Koch and Rheinmetall in the 60ies.

I've been among the last batches of officers to be actually trained with the G1 in Hamburg. After the fall of the Berlin wall in Nov.1989 and the german reunification in Oct.1990 the G1 rifles in Hamburg were kept in storage for some time and were then given back to the german government.
I always believed that they have been scrapped due to the harsh german export laws for guns, and therefore wouldn't have expected to see one of them again (converted to semiauto, as one can tell by the roll pin blocking the selector lever).

I remember that we had small teargas-grenades that were meant to be propelled with the G1. The grenade was called the RW70/4 (RW = Reizstoffwurfkörper), it was about 6-7 inches long, was red-colored and looked like a rifle grenade (complete with fins contained in a ring). When firing the RW70/4, the G1 rifle's gas valve had to be turned from "A" to "Gr" and the grenade was propelled by shooting a special blank round.

Having served in the Bundeswehr in 1984 and 1985, I knew the G3 rifle as well. I was never sure, which rifle -the G1 or the G3- I would've prefered if the s*** hits the fan. Each rifle had its good points over the other (the G1 was easier to clean, had a better trigger feel, featured an open bolt after the last shot, had a little easier to manipulate controls and had a bipod; the G3 was shorter, could be easily equipped with a retractable stock, had a freefloating barrel and a much sturdier magazine; I liked the sights on both and would've felt well equipped with any of them in combat as I could shoot them both accurately).

[Anthropy]

I think the nicest parts kits were the STG58's from Austria. I bought 2 of them years ago and they looked almost brand new.

DSA makes very nice receivers. I have 2 and the only fitting I had to do was to turn down the barrel shoulder a fraction to get the barrel to time correctly.

If you want to build, make sure you get a good receiver wrench and possibly an barrel/receiver alignment tool (helps to time the barrel).

Tom

[M1 Tanker]

Interesting BAS. Mine came from Turkey, because it had a note in the buttstock in Turkish, along with a rag and a stick :)

[Woodman in MO]

...it had a note in the buttstock in Turkish, along with a rag and a stick :)

I think that was the toilet kit.....:wink:

[AndyC]

I think that was the toilet kit.....:wink:
If that's the case, I'd suggest you ditch any chocolate you may have found in there :eek:

[fal_762x51]

Nice to see you here Andy, got bored on the Falfiles?

[AndyC]

Heya, 762 - not bored, no - I like checking out other military stuff, and found this place had FALs on it :rockon: :icon_biggrin: