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k98k792
06-13-2007, 04:37 PM
Saw this on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWOaLNxi5Jc&NR=1

Then checked out the website.
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php

turbothis
06-13-2007, 05:04 PM
video was pulled and there is a hell of a lot of reading on the website. i need a briefing here.:icon_neutral:

k98k792
06-13-2007, 06:14 PM
This kind of sums it up

"Do We Need Religion? Part 1
Wolfgang Bruno - 6/2/2007
Ali Sina is the Iranian ex-Muslim behind the website www.faithfreedom.org. Along with other former Muslims such as Ibn Warraq, Sina is spearheading what may be the first organized movement of ex-Muslims in Islamic history, made possible during the past ten to fifteen years by Muslim immigration to the West and the growth of the Internet. Publishing rational criticism of Islam, reaching hundreds of thousands of people and potentially hundreds of millions of people across the world, has never been done before until a few years ago. This is also part of the inspiration for my own suggestion of creating an Online Infidel Library, with dozens of books critical of Islam being made available online. It is no exaggeration to say that if the likes of Ali Sina, Ibn Warraq and Wafa Sultan prevail in the face of the traditional death penalty for leaving Islam, then Islam will never again be the same. Ibn Warraq has estimated that 10- 15% of the Muslims in the UK are actually apostates. If that percentage reflects the Islamic world as a whole, we are talking about a number of people the equivalent of a country the size of Japan. Even half of this is a country the size of Britain. This is the soft underbelly of Islam."

The rest of the article can be found here

http://www.globalpolitician.com/articleshow.asp?ID=2914&cid=1

Norton
06-13-2007, 08:49 PM
I thought it was an interesting website and I am going to explore it a little at a time. I can see how it could give you some insight into our foe's thinking.

SteelCore
06-18-2007, 12:16 PM
I never thot I'd hear these words. especially from a recovering Muslim:

"How can we go back to religions when we know they are based on lies? I think our challenge is to find a way to salvage morality and family values without the burden of religion."

_I'm no socialist, but I think this is awesome...he may be talking secular humanism, I dunno. An end to fanatix and the righteous would be cool...not more jihad, no more killing abortion doctors, etc.

I'm kind of a conservative secular polythiest, meself...I bow to no man or god.