what generation cetme do i have

[winky]

its got a grean stock and no flash suppresson on it. Im guessing the wide trigger as its seems fairly wide. Reciever is stamped steal. Can anyone tell me from this what ive got. it is a century arms gun.

[mrbgt]

what range is the serial ## 10xx- 50xxx ,st. albans build or georgia vt. st albans are the earlier ones.

[M1 Tanker]

A picture is also very helpful in addition to the information the mrbgt posted.

I am not aware of any Century Cetme that came with green furniture.

[winky]

serail no is c47xxx and it was made in Gerorgia VT and came to me with grean stock and no flash suppressor.

[drine]

St. Albans was their first location. They seemed to have done a better job in those days. Georgia,VT is the same I have and close to the same SN. Mine was sold to Ohio gunworks I found out. This was from their not so good times! Don't be discouraged though. Sometimes one gets lucky!

[winky]

seems to run real well. Its got a .005 bolt gap and is reliable. Aint a tack driver by a long shot but to give it credit all ive shoot is some ball bullets that were pulled bullets and some looked a little rough. Probably would help immensly to load some good ammo for it but for the most part i bought it for a beer can plinker and a go to gun if shit hit the fan. The ar would probably be my first grab in that situation anyway. Sure is more fun to shoot then an ar though!!

[Buzz]

Hey Winky. I hate to refer to another forum, but the Cetme generations identifiers are posted on another forum, and I think that the major factors here would be your wide trigger and lack of muzzle break, which would put it a 3rd generation gun, like mine. That source says that the problems were getting sorted out at this stage so it's no surprise to me that you have a good one. I'll try and find the link, but here is the info:

The FIRST GENERATION Century CETME: This can be discerned by the wood stock, often times more used looking than later generations, and a Muzzle Break, they also will have a thin, sporter style trigger that is US MADE. I have no idea about serial numbers. They hit the distributors around 1999-2000. I remember AIM listing these first CETMEs at like 795.00. These often have spotty reliability, as Century did not have the hang of things yet (many would argue that they never did get the hang of it).

The SECOND GENERATION CENTRY CETME: Around three years Later, Century either began to run out of parts, or they started to have different compliance parts made at a lower price, thus Synthetic Stocked CETME's began to hit the market (These were marketed at SOG as the "Black Widow"). These differ from the first generation in that they have a thicker trigger (no longer US made), Muzzle break and a Synthetic stock. The reliability issues were not fixed however.

Word got out about this, and pretty soon the prices bottomed out to like 249.00 to the dealer. Word also go out about the fact that Century was taking returns of the guns and a LOT of them started coming back into the factory (I assume this by watching the collectors forums). Some were fixed, but some are currently being sold off by Century as U-Fix-Ems (this means they cant even figure out what the hell is wrong with them). Incidentally, I have a second Generation CETME, that was serviced by the factory... twice.

The Third GENERATION CENTURY CETME: Here things get kind of murky. Some importers were stating in their adds (SOG for one) that the muzzle breaks on the ends of the guns were "Flash suppressors" which under the now defunct Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), made the guns illegal as hell, so the ATF Payed them a visit.. and the Muzzle breaks were deleted.

Also I suspect that the large number of returns were starting to cause Century to lose some money. So, the guns started getting made with tighter tolerances on re-engineered receivers, some of which were offered in stainless steel with better Quality control. Prior to this time, the receivers had been made by a sub-contractor, the re-engineered ones were made either in house or by a different subcontractor, (not sure on this, someone know?).

Also for unknown reasons, Century started to place G3, style round rear sights on some of the guns, but not others. If the gun has no Muzzle break, it is likely a "Third Generation" CETME, they also could have a round type rear sight or a Stainless Steel Receiver It MAY Also have a Wood Stock, that has been abrasive blasted or a REALTREE Camo Stock. These had reported good reliability comparatively speaking, Especially the stainless steel ones, but the Century CETME was never as good as an original MARS one.

The FOURTH Generation CENTURY CETME: At some point, the ATF Decided that the Muzzle break could be added again, so the fourth Generation CETME will have this. The last installments of the Century CETME was a "Special edition" one that was made sometime prior to Sept, of 2004, it had a wood stock (it will have a bunch of accessories like the bayonet, but no lug or flash hider and special serial number range , only 700 were made and so marked). After the AWB ended, a few with wood stocks, flash hiders and bayonet lugs were made up prior to the stop of production. These Reportedly are the best of the bunch.

[winky]

I guess the odd question is why the green stock. I know the guy that had it and he claimed it came that way from century when he bought it. Hes no gun crank so I about know he didnt go and buy a stock for it.

[Buzz]

I guess the odd question is why the green stock. I know the guy that had it and he claimed it came that way from century when he bought it. Hes no gun crank so I about know he didnt go and buy a stock for it.

Is it the standard slim green forearm furniture or the wide forearm? Any green furniture that I'm aware of either came from Germany or FMP (Portugal). Do you have any photos?

[winky]

slim heres the pic of it. http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=1716