Payola for the Poor...WTF?

[SteelCore]

Digusting new line of handouts:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070619/D8PRLSMG0.html

"NEW YORK (AP) - Poor residents will be rewarded for good behavior - like $300 for doing well on school tests, $150 for holding a job and $200 for visiting the doctor - under an experimental anti-poverty program that city officials detailed Monday."

At least it ain;t coming out of your taxes...yet. I guess that makes it privately funded socialism.

[okie shooter]

This sounds almost idiotic, but if you can motivate some folks at least to take care of medical problems by vaxicanations, your cost for their health care does go down, even if you have to bribe them, This country has a great healthcare system for those who dont afford it, its called the ER, thus they use that high cost system for basic care.

[Geilt]

WHAT THE FRACK!!!

Whatever happened to striving to do well on the tests as a means to better yourself and hopefully get out of poverty?

Whatever happened to going to the doctor when you're sick just because you're sick and want to feel better? So not only will the state pay for your medical insurance and make 'free clinics' available, now they're going to pay you to go to the doctor??

On top of all that they will be able to hold a job, collect a paycheck, stay on assistance if they don't make enough, AND GET $150 FOR HOLDING THE JOB!?I have been working since I was a teenager, where are my $150 checks?

I swear to all that's holy that this is nothing other than MORE welfare. You can't "train" someone to become a responsible adult like this. They will expect to get paid for doing what should be done regardless. Where's the $250 for not squirting babies out every 10 months? How about a monthly check to not be a drug addict, criminal or social reject? Do they plan on paying men to be responsible fathers?

You don't reward people for doing whats right and expected of them. If they don't "get it" then so be it and their life sucks. Sorry but this type of thing just really pisses me off to no end (in case you hadn't figured it out).

[rustypirate]

This does nothing but provide incentive for poor people to stay poor.

What do you think will happen as soon as these folks have enough money to no longer qualify for the "incentives"? They will scream until they find a way to get them back.

[SteelCore]

My point exactly.

Just another way to reward sub-par performance and mediocrity, like that "No child left behind" BS.

Government programs: Flattening the top end of the bell curve since 1920.

[okie shooter]

Well one way, would be to withhold payments(rather than give out more money) of various programs already enrolled into, to entice or motivate folks to do the things desired by the programs. Since money is already paid for the programs anyway.

[LorDiego]

I read about this when it was just a little socialist twinkle in the little socialist eyes.

I remember them saying that the program was at first going to be funded privately, and THEN, if successful, would be government backed.

Lets look at the track record of success from private companies VS government programs...

yeah.. humm.... :xyxnervous:..... ooooookaaaaaaaay....

[RandyCOG3]

This does nothing but provide incentive for poor people to stay poor.

Sorta like the libs have been doing for the last 40 or 50 years?


What do you think will happen as soon as these folks have enough money to no longer qualify for the "incentives"? They will scream until they find a way to get them back.

No, the libs will find some other way of bribing them to vote Democratic. And stay poor.

RandyCOG3

[Rampager]

This has got to be the most idiotic socialist idea I've heard lately.

So what's in this for the already over burdened, play by the rules taxpayers? Higher taxes.

How long is it gonna take some of these folks to figure out if they get $200 for going to the doctor...hmmm...just run to the clinic, collect the cash and party time! This will really help our already over stressed health care system. :crazyeyes:

As far as paying the kids parents for going to school (as if us giving them a free education isn't enough), maybe they should go the other route and withhold $100 a month in food stamps each time a student on public aid has an unexcused absence.

[Cavalryman]

Digusting new line of handouts:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070619/D8PRLSMG0.html

"NEW YORK (AP) - Poor residents will be rewarded for good behavior - like $300 for doing well on school tests, $150 for holding a job and $200 for visiting the doctor - under an experimental anti-poverty program that city officials detailed Monday."

At least it ain;t coming out of your taxes...yet. I guess that makes it privately funded socialism.

WTF??? $200 for visiting the doctor???? The doctor doesn't get $200 for seeing them! Pardon me, I have to go wipe my ass on my medical degree, since that's apparently what it's for. :thebird:

[pigpen]

This is how the whole entitlement mindset is started and/or renforced.

[LorDiego]

As far as paying the kids parents for going to school (as if us giving them a free education isn't enough), maybe they should go the other route and withhold $100 a month in food stamps each time a student on public aid has an unexcused absence.

Now THAT is a brilliant idea. Don't give them more money/help, take it away if they are leeching.

I like it!

[Seattlefungus]

Damn... 1960's and the whole "War on Poverty" thing all over again... I think the figures were like a trillion dollars spent on housing and entitlement programs and not one damn thing to show for it... History repeating it's self, yet again. Yet again, at our expense...