sales and shipping ammo by ups

[Planning]

i have been watching the gunbroker site and a few other sites and i went there to look at the ammo sales.

WOW. i cannot believe the prices. they are selling ammo buy the box ( china) and a few others.

i think i remember a thread on shipping ammo by ups but i cannot find it. i spent the last 30 min looking. may be inside another thread or i am just old and blind.

i have never tried to ship ammo before, but it looks like an oppertunity now to learn how. i have a few extra rounds i could sell off.:icon_biggrin:

anyone know where the thread is or we can do it all over again here.

thanks for the help.:airtight:

[k98k792]

I have shipped it UPS. The only thing I had to put on the box was ORMD
and SMALL ARMS CARTRIDGES.

[kevin]

ditto k98

thats all you have to do, and you cant go to a UPS store or ones located in another business, you have to go to the main hub and ship from there.

[Planning]

thanks, very good information, now to find out how much to ship the ammo so i will know how much to charge for it.
i think i have some old labels around here somewhere. i will copy them.

[bullseye]

Here is more info.... From this thread (http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/guntalk/config.pl?noframes;read=26552) I called UPS. Small arms ammo in quantities of 60 lbs or less per shipment in boxes with a bursting strength of 200 lbs can be shipped only from a UPS company location (not a UPS store front) and shipped ground. Mark the boxes ORM-D Cartridges, Small Arms. If it meets these criteria it is not considered hazmat and no special paperwork has to be completed. Primers and gunpowder is a different issue.

The last reply was the winner though. :) I think it covers it.

Here are the DOT regulations on shipping small arms ammunition. Ammunition, even when classed as ORM-D, is still considered a hazardous material by the Department of Transportation.

Code of Federal Regulations, Title 49, Part 173

173.63 Packaging exceptions

(b) Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices. (1) Cartridges, small arms and cartridges power devices (which are used to project fastening devices) which have been classed as a Division 1.4S explosive may be reclassed, offered for transportation, and transported as ORM-D material when packaged in accordance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section; such transportation is excepted from the requirements of subparts E (Labeling) and F (Placarding) of part 172 of this subchapter. Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices that may be shipped as ORM-D material is limited to:

(i) Ammunition for rifle, pistol, or shotgun;
(ii) Ammunition with inert projectiles or blank ammunition;
(iii) Ammunition having no tear gas, incendiary, or detonating explosive projectiles;
(iv) Ammunition not exceeding 12.7 mm (50 caliber or 0.5 inch) for rifle or pistol, cartridges or 8 gauge for shotshells; and
(v) Cartridges power devices which are use to project fastening devices.

(2) Packaging for cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices as ORM-D material must be as follows:
(i) Ammunition must be packed in inside boxes, or in partitions which fit snugly in the outside packaging, or in metal clips;
(ii) Primers must be protected from accidental initiation;
(iii) Inside boxes, partitions or metal clips must be packed in securely-closed strong outside packagings;
(iv) Maximum gross weight is limited to 30 Kg (66 pounds) per package; and
(v) Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices and 22 caliber rim-fire cartridges may be packaged loose in strong outside packagings.

Part 172 (Marking)

172.316 Packagings containing material classed as ORM-D

(a) Each non-bulk packaging containing a material classed as ORM-D must be marked on at least one side or end with the ORM-D designation immediately following or below the proper shipping name of the material (Cartridges, Small Arms). The ORM designation must be placed within a rectangle that is approximately 6.3 mm (0.25 inches) larger on each side than the designation.

(b) The marking ORM-D is the certification by the person offering the packaging for transportation that the material is properly described, classed, packaged, marked and labeled (when appropriate) and in proper condition for transportation according to the applicable regulations of this subchapter.