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Marksman
07-04-2007, 11:31 PM
Several sites I've seen recently that sell imported bolt guns such as Mosin-Nagants, Mausers, Enfields, etc. are using phrases like "...this could be the last shipment..., may not see these again, get one while you can, etc." I was wondering if these are just marketing gimmicks or if the supplies really are drying up. Its seems like a couple of years back I read an article where the UN was encouraging countries to destroy lend-lease and surplus military rifles instead of sell them to US dealers.

Is there any new news on this front? I have put off getting a C&R for a while but was thinking of taking the plunge to buy some WW2 rifles for my son. Growing up around these guns, they were always cheap and plentiful, I hate that its seems to be changing. Of course, you can still buy Russian bolt guns for less than $100 so I guess its not that bad yet.

Thanks

Norton
07-05-2007, 06:57 AM
Several sites I've seen recently that sell imported bolt guns such as Mosin-Nagants, Mausers, Enfields, etc. are using phrases like "...this could be the last shipment..., may not see these again, get one while you can, etc." I was wondering if these are just marketing gimmicks or if the supplies really are drying up.

.

Thanks

I have seen that phrase in Shotgun news going back to 2001 and I think I remember ads in the 1980s saying much the same.
But you have a valid point, a change of parties in the White House could stop all these imports of ex military rifles with a stroke of a pen.
Weapons like a Mosin Nagant, Enfields, Mausers let alone SKSs all were made for combat and can take bayonets. So they could just ban imports without a vote.
The same with these Spam cans and bricks of millitay surplus ammo.
They will just say it can't be used for hunting and can go right thru a policmen's vest ect.. The news media runs a few vid clips of a 30 cal A/P going thru a vest then a shot of a f/a AK 47 shooting at a pile of cinder blocks.
You know the drill..
So get you C&R and buy cheap now, if they do ban imports latter. You can still buy C&R stuff that is already here

Longhorn789
07-05-2007, 09:05 AM
Of course, you can still buy Russian bolt guns for less than $100 so I guess its not that bad yet.

Yeah...That's what I said for 20 years about Yugoslavian M59s. I figured I'd buy one when I was good and ready. NOW try to find one from a dealer. The cruddy 59/66s with the useless grenade launcher that you might not be able to legally remove now cost more than the M59s did. I waited. I lost. In twenty years, they never went significantly up in price for a sustained period of time. They just dried up in a flash.

Just a few years ago, perfect condition Arisaka Type 99s sold for $40 all day. Now they're north of $200 even with a scrubbed mum. I bought my first CETME three years ago for $300 with accessories, ammo, and extra stocks. Try to find that deal now..

As you noted, you've got all types of Russian bolt guns for under $100. You can buy a German RC Mauser with all the waffens in tact for $200. Japanese Type 38s and 99s for about the same.

At these prices, why wait?!?

First thing, get your C&R so FFL fees don't eat your lunch.

Then, throw a hundred or two per month towards picking up these cheap shooters. They won't go DOWN in price, so what is there to think about??

Norton
07-05-2007, 09:25 AM
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At these prices, why wait?!?

First thing, get your C&R so FFL fees don't eat your lunch.

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Good point, .. get it now as the a BAFT after 2008 election could make a C&R much harder to get or raise the the fee thru the roof.

okie shooter
07-05-2007, 10:12 AM
For these rifles, there is a finite supply, many are over fifty years old, like the mosin's, they are proably the most manufactured single type of bolt action rifle in history, but the supplies will end. The political winds though may have more effect than actually supply.
If the gun is on the c&r list, it will be harder to change, as that is in the federal code.

cetme
07-05-2007, 03:15 PM
part of it is suppliers will find a batch of guns and that one will be the "very last" then in some other forgoten armory they will find another batch and that one will be the "last one ever". I'm still waiting on all those 1895 winchesters and S&W top brakes from russia. I know there over there it's just a matter of them running low on nagants and captured german gear.

Smokehouse69
07-05-2007, 08:44 PM
I believe that the real problem we'll see after 2008 is even deeper involvment with the UN, and even slimmer chances of ever seeing military surplus ammo and firearms imported into the US.
It apparently doesn't matter to our lawmakers than 99.999% of mil surplus collectors and shooters are law abiding, good citizens. It's that .001% that is going to control what happens.

Marksman
07-09-2007, 08:43 PM
I wish we could go back in time as a country to 1955, minus for the internet of course!

gunkgy
07-29-2007, 11:26 PM
I wish I would have gotten my C&R 20 years ago when the selection was much better and cheaper