Compliance Parts?

[Smokehouse69]

I know this has probably been asked a thousand times before by newbs, but I gotta ask it again... What compliance parts did you guys use on your CETME build? Where did you buy yours from, I've been looking for places to get the necessary parts for my build and they are hard to locate?

Can someone move this to the gunsmithing/build forum? Thanks...

[cimmaronkid]

Since we are talking about the Cetme and not the G3, you have to understand that the FCG parts are few and far between. You will probably have to go the receiver, stock set, mag body, follower, base plate, cocking handle, and barrel. I am also confident that I missed some. You might contact Bill Springfield to see if he has any US semi auto parts. If he does or doesn't, I would still send him the grip frame/trigger pack and have him modify it for semi auto. Nice guy and quite reasonable.

[rustypirate]

OK, just to get started....

According to:
http://frwebgate3.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=41387427+1+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 27, Volume 2]
[Revised as of April 1, 2003]
From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
[CITE: 27CFR478]

[Page 101-169]

TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND FIREARMS

CHAPTER II--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES,
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

PART 478--COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION

on page 119....

[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10494, Mar. 31, 1988]

Sec. 478.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.

(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun
using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this
section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under
section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily
adaptable to sporting purposes.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:
(1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution
by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or
agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political
subdivision thereof; or
(2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of
testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the
provisions of Sec. 478.151; or
(3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported into
or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the
replacement of any part of such firearm.
(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts are:
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates

What this means is that your rifle
!!CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN 10 IMPORTED PARTS ON THAT LIST!!

The parts on the list pertaining to the CETME or HK91 style of rifle are as follows:
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments (flash hiders or muzzle breaks)
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods (charging handle)
(10) Trigger housings (FCG cage)
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates

That makes 17 compliance parts. If you cannot have more that 10 IMPORTED parts in your rifle, then you must replace 7 of the above parts with US made replacements. (6 replacement parts if your barrel was cut and no muzzle attachment was added)

Most rifles from Century at a minimum have US made Muzzle breaks, Receivers, Charging handles, Pistol Grips and Hammers. This accounts for 5 of the compliance parts.

In order to reach the required limit of 10 imported parts Century replaced other rifle parts as well.

If the rifle ORIGINALLY came with wood handguards and buttstocks, then the following US made parts should be installed:
Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
Muzzle attachments (flash hiders or muzzle breaks)
Operating rods (charging handle)
Triggers
Hammers
Sears
Pistol grips

If your rifle came with the crappy black plastic buttstock and handguard, then these US made parts were installed:
Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
Muzzle attachments (flash hiders or muzzle breaks)
Operating rods (charging handle)
Hammers
Pistol grips
Buttstocks
Forearms, handguards

On some of the latest CETME rifles from Century, (Limited Edition)the wood furniture was kept, and the stock Flash hider was used as well. These rifles were shipped with magazines containing US made followers or floorplates, and only magazines with US compliance parts in them can legally be used with these rifles without replacing something else on the list with a US made part.
Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
Operating rods (charging handle)
Triggers
Hammers
Sears
Pistol grips
Magazine Followers or Floorplates

Some Century rifles were shipped with US made replacement barrels and not every configuration is listed here.

Following will be a post with photos to help identify if your parts are US made or imported.

[jfowl31]

Where'd you get your info about the Limited Edition rifles using original FH's an needing US mags?

My and all the pictures Ive seen of the Limited Edition rifles all came with the loudener, US barrel, receiver, trigger box, charging handle, hammer, sear, trigger. The pistol grip was spanish or G3, and the furniture is spanish. The innrads of the mags it came with were Spanish. I dont know if the trigger box is US made or not, but I thought for some reason I read tha it was.

I think what youre talking about isnt a Limted Edition rifle, but just the new run of Cetmes. There were only 500 "Limited Editions" made, and they are all cast, and all in the same configuration AFAIK. I got #203, and its a dandy

[woofert]

Rusty,

just in case ya ain't got it.......

435

bout the only thing I kept from the old site, wish I'd kept more!

Woofert

[franks71vw]

Then if your trying to find the easiest way to build you Cetme kit would the way to go be the G3 road since it lends itself to more options as to being 922 compliant? Is there a thread of what you need and where is the best place to get it at. I just want to place an order and get all the parts in I am going nuts looking around the different threads picking up the FCP and checking out the receiver types etc..lol

[cimmaronkid]

Given a choice between building the Cetme and the G3, I would opt for the G3 as there is just more stuff out there for it. Parts are a whole lot easier to find and gives you the option of building with different stocks, buffers, etc. And you save the time of modifing all the G3 parts to put on a Cetme.

[rustypirate]

Rusty,

just in case ya ain't got it.......

435

bout the only thing I kept from the old site, wish I'd kept more!

Woofert

Thanks Hoot, yeah, I got that one, in fact I am tho one who posted it in the first place. :thumbup:

[vista461]

If it helps, for compliance parts on my cetme build I am starting off US stock set I bought off ebay for $25 ( all 3 pieces are century) my us cast SS receiver and a US made mag for another 3 parts for the total minimum of 7 US parts. As money comes along I am going to change to either a US cetme trig group or switch to a US G3 setup and change the cocking handle and flash hider for US parts so I can use the wood and some of the 15 G3 mags I just got today from Copes. But for now I have enough legal parts to go to the range. Now I just need to assemble them :lol3: