Barrel Threading Kit for Rent

[WildBillCody]

As before we have barrel threading kits for rent, How it works is you send me a money order for $20(rental fee) and a personal check for $100(deposit), I send you the kit, and when I get it back in good condition, I destroy or send back your check(if you want it back include a SASE) We have four different kits:
1. CETME/G3 15mmx1.0 RH .30 cal
2. 15mmx1.0 RH but for 9mm
3. AK 14x1.0 LH thread .30 cal
4. 1/2x28 RH for Ar-15 .223

The kits consits of:
1. Screwdriver
2. Die handle
3. Die
4. T.A.T. (Thread Alignment Tool)
5. Either a CETME Flashhider or AK muzzle device
6. Bottle of Rapid-Tap lubricant
7. Bottle of Blue Loc-tite
8. Instructions

Make sure you are not breaking any laws before threading your muzzle. Check here if you have questions: http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=267, if your still not sure, ask, you need to be sure your rifle will be 922r compliant, also check your local laws.


If we get more then one person wanting the kit I will start a list, first come first served. Do not ask for the kit untill you are ready to use it, if your turn comes and your not ready, just let me know and I will bump you down one spot. Most people return the kit within 10 days of getting it. PM me if you want to rent it or if you have any questions. WBC

[M1 Tanker]

This kit has been around for a few years on Cetmerifles.com. It has been well maintained and parts replaced as needed.

[sniper7mm2000]

And it worked great on my cetme.

[leonidas]

WildBillCody,

Now that's exactly what I need there. I have a clinton era barrel on mine and I want a flash hider on it. Any chance I could get it?? It's for a CETME. Sent yah a PM.

[Roadkill45]

i'm going to rent the kit this week, i'm going to throw in a new 15x1 die when i send it back for the betterment of the group.

[texlurch]

I used that kit a couple years back on my CETME, great deal!

[turbothis]

i would like to thread my .22 for a silencer down the road. what is the tool to do that? maybe one could be added?

[Enigma Nostra]

What sort of .22 is it mate? There might be some ready made threaded barrels on the market (Course you may just be a do it yourself nut.). I would think it would vary by the barrel diameter (outside) thou.

-E

[BIG 54R]

I just got a tat from precision and already had a die so when I finish threading my cetme's I may put up the items for rent if ok with M1 Tanker!? My setup doesn't have all the listed part's tho just the TAT and the 15x1 RH die. I'll be fabbing a die holder or using a large socket if I can't find the right size die handle.

[councilman24]

Glad to see your still using the case and foam I sent back.:thumbup:

[Reloader_26D]

Anyone have a copy (electronic or otherwise) of the instructions, that I can get a copy of? Thanks in advance! :thumbup:

[tiny113]

what is the name and address to send the money order and check to?

I've got the USA made break from tapco for my cetme... bought it years ago.
Will this fit the thread that your cetme tat will make?

could you send the cetme and ak tat at the same time?

Thanks

tiny113

[dahondaboy]

I want to know more about this thread alignment tool. is it somthing bought or did someone custom make it? and how does it work while using the die? is it like a rod attatched to the die handle or something?

[Ransom Stoddard]

#1...is it somthing bought or did someone custom make it...
#2...how does it work...
[Original TAT for CETME/HK]
#1 - we cut the threaded ends off 2 of my spanish barrels & stuck pilot pins in... simple.
#2 - threading instructions:
The Threading Kit contains a THREADING ALIGNMENT TOOL (TAT) that is designed specifically to facilitate the creation of threads on the outside of rifle muzzles that are both concentric and perpendicular to the rifled bore.

The TAT is simple to use. Even for the inexperienced, the entire procedure should not take more than five to ten minutes. For your safety, follow these directions carefully:

1. Open the action on the rifle and be sure there is no ammunition in the magazine or the bore.
2. The threading die is split along one side and has screw to adjust the die cut for shallow or deep threads. Open up the die to cut shallow threads in order to start the initial threads on the rifle muzzle.
3. Install the threading die into the die handle. Begin with the large chamfered side facing the muzzle. Insert the die into the handle and tighten the retaining screws so that the die will not turn in the handle.
4. Locate the threaded bore pilot (TAT) and insert the pilot into the threaded die so that the pilot, or the unthreaded end, goes into the die from the side opposite the large chamfer. Turn the threaded bore pilot threads two full turns into the die. Use either your muzzle brake or your flash hider as a jam nut to hold the bore pilot in the die. Tighten firmly.
5. If you have assembled the TAT properly as described above, the die now has about three turns available to cut threads on the chamfer side of the die. The TAT is now ready to use.
6. Hold the barrel of your rifle firmly during the threading procedure. A good bench vice with padded jaws is desirable to hold the barrel. You can use soft wood blocks, sheet lead, or copper sheet as padding for the vice jaws.
7. Lubricate both the pilot and die inside of the muzzle with oil. Now insert the lubed pilot into the bore of the muzzle until the die contacts the muzzle. Grasp die handles in both hands and, using some pressure, rotate the handles in a clockwise direction. You will feel the die start to cut. Keep turning the handles slowly. There should be some resistance until the threading dies bottom out on the pilot (above three full turns).
8. WARNING: When you encounter any resistance, STOP! Do not go any further, remove the TAT, then continue threading. With proper threading, the TAT can last for years.
9. Leave the die attached to the muzzle. You have established a threading pattern that is both concentric and perpendicular to the bore. Loosen the muzzle brake or flash hider that served as a jam nut and remove the threaded pilot from the die. Grasp the die handle again with both hands, turn the handles clockwise until the die bottoms out against the front sight.
10. Now turn the die handles counter-clockwise and remove the die from the rifle muzzle. At this point, you have established the muzzle threads and all you have to do now is deepen the threads so the muzzle brake will screw on. The pilot is no longer necessary.
11. Remove the threading die from the handle and readjust the die a small amount so that the die will cut slightly deeper threads. Install the die back in the handle. Orient the die so that the side with the chamfer again faces the muzzle. Carefully start the die back on the established threads by turning the die handles clockwise. Continue turning the handles until the die bottoms out against the front sight. Unscrew the die.
12. Try to turn the muzzle brake onto the threads that you cut. If the brake will not start onto the treads, repeat Step # 10 above and try again. You want a good tight fit on the threads with some resistance. You may have to repeat the procedure several times.
13. STOP when you are able to turn the brake on the muzzle at least four or five turns with resistance. Unscrew the die from the muzzle. You are now done threading. Clean any thread cutting from the muzzle threads with a soft wire brush and install the muzzle brake. Make the unit quite tight.

[dahondaboy]

very good and thorough description of use!!!:thumbup: thank you!

[WildBillCody]

what is the name and address to send the money order and check to?

I've got the USA made break from tapco for my cetme... bought it years ago.
Will this fit the thread that your cetme tat will make?

could you send the cetme and ak tat at the same time?

Thanks

tiny113

PM me for the address, Yes , and Yes for your other questions.
WBC

[animator]

PM me for the address, Yes , and Yes for your other questions.
WBC



Will you send me a PM when the CETME tap is ready to ship out again?


Thanks.

[Planning]

can you put me on the list for the cetme and the ar-15. ship at the same time for both.
pm me when it is my turn. thanks.

[WildBillCody]

Will Do

[weaponeer]

If the kit is avail. the first part of Sept. I would like to get on the list.. we have a build party going on then and the pistol builders could really use this setup.

[WildBillCody]

Email me

[SCGrotz]

maybe im a goon, but how is one supposed to use the flash hider as a jamming nut? it just doesnt work, is this like some kind of chinese puzzle?

[WildBillCody]

Jam nut? It's just in there so you can check your threads after your done if you didn't have one already.

[SCGrotz]

lol, yes! I'm not retarded, wooohooo.

the instructions say to use it as a jam nut.... which honestly confuses me to no end.

anyway, threaded and operation successful! thank you, ill have it back in the mail to you thursday.

[WildBillCody]

That's what you get for following insstructions :), we had a good set in there, someone lost them, so we have the replacement which aren't so good apparently... I've never looked at them before.

[Ransom Stoddard]

... we had a good set in there... someone lost /
... we have the replacement which aren't so good apparently /
> I've never looked at them before.

As originator of this project, (and instructions thereof)
I can attest to the fact that...
in reality, the "good" set and the "not so good" set of instructions...
are one-in-the-same.
The sentence related to "jam nut" refers to an iteration of T.A.T....
that does not employ this t-handle >
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5193/001zw0.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=001zw0.jpg)
and the flash suppressor/brake could be used to maintain positioning.
If all T.A.T.'s currently in use employ t-handles...
simply remove that sentence from #4...
and the corresponding sentence from #9.
The instructions will again be as good... as they ever were.

[Ransom Stoddard]

Jam nut? It's just in there so you can check your threads after your done if you didn't have one already.
Actually...
I never thought anyone would rent the threading kit without already
having a flash suppressor or brake to install on their rifle.:icon_biggrin:
I shipped the kits with a flash suppressor affixed to the original T.A.T.'s -
in attempt to protect the threads cut into the spanish barrel ends.

[WildBillCody]

Ransom,
I'm pretty sure the instructions we have now are printed off of a Brownells sheet or something, I've been meaning to update them, but it's on the back burner... The kit went for four or five months with no one wanting to use it, and I never had anyone say anything bad about the instructions before, so you know how it is, the squeeky wheel gets the grease.
Nice to "see" you around again BTW

[Ransom Stoddard]

Greetings Mike...
Nice to "see" you too!
Since the license for the software that runs this site is in my name...
and I continue to gladly accept financial responsibility for it's renewal...
(for the benefit of the entire membership here)
I still drop by & keep abreast of new posts 6 days a week...
(w/ Sunday's reserved for time at the ranch)
utilizing "invisible mode" to browse the forums.
That's why I was able to reply to your post just under 4 hours. :wink:
Just grew sort of tired of posting for a while... that's all.:087:
Good to "hear" from you!
Rance
ps: thankx again for stepping up to take responsibility
for the old CETMERifles: Threading Kit, Barrel project.
You carry on the tradition of...
"one member unselfishly willing to help another"...
that makes sites like this not only attractive to join...
but also conducive to keeping people coming back.

[John8680]

Is the kit currently available for rent? I have a rifle in need of threading =)

[WildBillCody]

Yes, it is avalible, I've had several people contact me about it, but no one has sent payment as of yet.

[Buelligan]

WILD BILL , can I get on the list?

[cableman22b]

I need to rent the CETME and the AK kit.Please give me a address to send the checks too.
Also after reading your instructions I still need to know how far to thread the CETME barrel because unlike the AK its front sight is several inches from the muzzle.
Thanks

[WildBillCody]

There is no "list", first come, first served. email mike@wildbillcody.com for address. Maybe someone else could help with the length, I never have done the CETME.

[vpost]

Would like to rent the kit PM sent.

Vince

[Arkane]

Bill, is the 1/2x28 kit available?

[rpmfly2]

Do any of those three kits work for a CAI FAL non threaded barrel?

[WildBillCody]

Not sure, what is the diameter of the barrel?

[19Charlie_84]

I have a Remington 597 that I want to make much quieter. Outside barrel diameter is .642" so would threading this barrel for an adapter down to 1/28" or just take it all the way down to correct size to put the can right on the barrel with no adapter? I have never done this before but it doesnt seem to difficult.

Do you have the kit available? I dont need it right away, maybe a month or so.

[WildBillCody]

I have the kit, as far as the other questions, not sure, What is the diameter of a AK or FAL, or CETME barrel?

[Orion]

Hi Wild Bill:

Money is being sent today for the AK kit.

Thanks,