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hulygan
03-04-2007, 04:34 PM
I just got my kit today and was wondering if anyone had pics of their build, and any info on where to get compliance parts.

cimmaronkid
03-04-2007, 05:43 PM
Probably going to have to go the mag/follower/floor plate/stock set/receiver route as the fire control parts are really scarce. Easy way is to send the FCG and Grip Frame to Bill Springfield. He can do all the neat stuff to the FCG as well as improve the trigger pull. Post pictures as you go. Remember to measure the bolt gap, bolt head, check the locking piece and rollers for wear and then press the barrel to get the max bolt gap (.015-.020) Any questions, ask first and help will arrive. I will find Bill's e-mail and send it to you. He does good work, is very quick and extremely reasonable.

nalioth
03-04-2007, 05:55 PM
Probably going to have to go the mag/follower/floor plate/stock set/receiver route as the fire control parts are really scarce. You can easily use a JLD (http://www.ptr91.com/store/) made G3 hammer, trigger and sear in a G3 trigger box. The trigger box is part 111 on this schematic (http://www.robertrtg.com/g3schematic.html). JLD (http://www.ptr91.com/store/) even makes a US made G3 trigger box (using all of the above will get you 4 US parts that nobody will ever see)

rustypirate
03-04-2007, 08:01 PM
If you go with G3 trigger parts you will also need the G3 selector lever and grip frame.

the pistol grips are also available as US made parts along with charging handles and muzzle breaks. With a US made receiver, charging handle, trigger, sear, hammer, trigger box, and Pistol grip, you would be covered.

Seattlefungus
03-04-2007, 08:37 PM
As Rusty Pirate says, all the trigger pack for the G3 would have to be used. But the good news is (Blatant Plug for Robert at RTG) Robert sells the grip frame and selector at a good price, $5.00 for the selector, $15.00 for the trigger frame!... Let someone else give all their money to Robert, besides me...:D :D :D

http://www.robertrtg.com/g3.html

Hoot
03-04-2007, 09:02 PM
You can keep your stock FCG parts by going with a US made Magazine, as it counts for three compliance parts. Just an idea...

Hoot

Arizona Ranger
03-04-2007, 10:04 PM
I just got a compliance parts kit from Military Gun Supply for $39.99 comes with sear, hammer, follower, floor plate and pistol grip. Item #pus00002 www.militarygunsupply.com I did not want to rely on the magazine as some of my parts so I got some other items from ptr91 in the HK parts section.

landtoy80
03-04-2007, 10:47 PM
Arizona Ranger
Is that for a G3 or CETME?
Don't find it on that web site.

Hoot
03-05-2007, 07:42 AM
Arizona Ranger
Is that for a G3 or CETME?
Don't find it on that web site.

Before the old site went down, it was reported to be a G3 compliance set originally from FAC I believe.

Hoot

hulygan
03-05-2007, 10:46 AM
Hoot , What is FAC. I could not find anything on military gun supply.

Tyler

Hoot
03-05-2007, 11:35 AM
Hoot , What is FAC. I could not find anything on military gun supply.

Tyler

Used to be Federal Arms Corp here in the Twin Cities, but they sold out to Century Arms and serve as their front for onesey-twosey parts sales. I doubt you'll find the kit there. That place has been disappointing for me. Not as disappointing as Century, but a close second. My guess is MGS bought up a lot of them at one time. Last I recall reading on the old thread at the old forum was that MGS was out of them. that puts you in the same boat as most of us. Good luck finding CETME/G3 compliance parts at less than a king's ransom. That's one of the compelling reasons for me going to the US Made composite magazine, as opposed to paying JLD's prices. No disrespect to JLD.

Hoot

hulygan
03-05-2007, 12:47 PM
Thanks for the info Hoot. I guess i will just have to keep scouring to find more parts.

Auto-5
03-05-2007, 12:55 PM
I recently got a US G3 sear and hammer from FAC. They also have a G3 mag with 2 US parts. Go to facsupplystore.com and search g3 us.

Do not order a G3 parts kit from FAC unless you want 13 pounds of garbage consisting of two completely worn out front ends, no small parts, and buttstock without recoil assembly. The bolt and carrier were the only parts of any value. I sent it back.

Vector also has compliance parts to sell just not shown on the web site.

The insert I received with my PTR 91 receiver from Vector
says they have US made barrels, cocking handles, hammers, trigger housings, sears, and buttstocks.

Some of these (or all) maybe from PTR 91. Talking with PTR
today while placing an order (for their excellent trigger housing), they said Vector is now their official distributer for receivers.

cimmaronkid
03-05-2007, 01:30 PM
Hulygan, you never specified if it was a Cetme or a G3 kit you had. There is a BIG difference in the two even though they look the same, and only certain parts interchange. Let us know what you have and maybe some of us can be of more assistance.

hulygan
03-05-2007, 05:02 PM
cimmaronkid, it is for a cetme, not a g3.

cimmaronkid
03-05-2007, 06:14 PM
http://www.robertrtg.com/g3.html

Use Robert's sight and go to the FAQ and see what parts will interchange. He is a good guy to deal with and extremely knowledgeable. This should help you a little.

Arizona Ranger
03-05-2007, 10:09 PM
Arizona Ranger
Is that for a G3 or CETME?
Don't find it on that web site.

landtoy, it's for a CETME, sorry I forgot, you wont find it by any kind of search in their web site. I found it by a yahoo search. Let me see if I have the address...Oh found it, try www.militarygunsupply.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=pus00002

rustypirate
03-06-2007, 12:03 AM
Actually, the Hammer and Sear in that kit are G3 parts, as are the mag floorplate, follower, and the pistol grip.

Of course you can use the follower, floorplate, and grip on a CETME if you are using a G3 mag.

hulygan
03-06-2007, 09:13 AM
I found out some good news today, apparently the new barrels that centerfire is including with their kits are new US barrels, so that at least is one less compliance part that i need.

Hoot
03-06-2007, 10:46 AM
Actually, the Hammer and Sear in that kit are G3 parts, as are the mag floorplate, follower, and the pistol grip.

Of course you can use the follower, floorplate, and grip on a CETME if you are using a G3 mag.

Hey Mike, can the follower and floorplate be adapted to steel CETME mags and still look reasonable (not hacked up)???

Hoot

hulygan
03-06-2007, 10:53 AM
Hoot i called military firearm supply and they are out of stock on the compliance set and don't know when it will be in.

Tyler

vista461
03-06-2007, 11:03 AM
I found out some good news today, apparently the new barrels that centerfire is including with their kits are new US barrels, so that at least is one less compliance part that i need.

Are you sure about that? Mine came with a new barrel but I heard they were spanish barrels, I got mine from century though

hulygan
03-06-2007, 03:35 PM
Thats what i was told on the phone, i just asked them the counrty the new barrel came from and they told me it was a US barrel. I guess they must get the barrels seperate from the kits.

Tyler

Milsurp
03-06-2007, 07:23 PM
I had heard the same thing as Vista. That they were Spanish made. Hulygan what kind of markings does yours have on it? Also did it come in the brown paper wrap?

landtoy80
03-06-2007, 09:10 PM
http://www.militarygunsupply.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=pus00002

It says "CETME HK91 US COMPLIANCE KIT", how can it be both unless they are talking about the mag and grip?

The add also says "WE ALSO HAVE THE US MADE CETME/HK91 RECEIVERS FOR SALE."

Is that CIA or JLD?

Hoot
03-06-2007, 09:24 PM
Considering they don't have the compliance kits anymore, they probably don't have receivers anymore either. Given the compliance kits were from FAC, the receivers they had at one time were probably FAC ones, though that's speculative. In that kit, the hammer and sear are definitely not compatible with a CETME FCG box. So, it was more of a misnomer calling it a CETME/HK91 compliance kit. More of a mixed bag.

Hoot

jfowl31
03-06-2007, 10:46 PM
The new barrels are Spanish made unless they are now sending out different barrels with the kits.

The compliance kits are G3, as stated earlier though some of those parts can be transferred.

Hulygan, if its an american made barrel, it should be marked USA somewhere on there. Perhaps the Rep you spoke with didnt know their schtuff

hulygan
03-07-2007, 12:12 AM
I think you guys are right on the barrel i did not find any US marked on it and the rep probably just didn't know what they should have.

Tyler

drhall762
03-07-2007, 06:25 PM
Hulygan,

I got my CFS CETME kit yesterday and the barrel wrapping indicated it was Spanish origin.

I have a little more experience with AKs and compliance, this is my first CETME, I assume the same list applies in terms of what can be used.

Dave :sniper:

nalioth
03-07-2007, 06:29 PM
Hulygan,

I got my CFS CETME kit yesterday and the barrel wrapping indicated it was Spanish origin.

I have a little more experience with AKs and compliance, this is my first CETME, I assume the same list applies in terms of what can be used.

Dave :sniper: The same list applies to all the 'evil imports', the trick with the cetme is finding actual compliance parts made specifically for the Cetme

franks71vw
03-08-2007, 07:14 AM
but who has a good receiver now a days. I want to have all the parts ready to go before the SHTF and I have two cetmes to build. I missed out on the last site and dont want it to happen again...:newbie: sorry if i am making you guys repost

Smokehouse69
03-08-2007, 09:53 PM
I found out some good news today, apparently the new barrels that centerfire is including with their kits are new US barrels, so that at least is one less compliance part that i need.

Are you sure? Mine came wrapped in brown paper with Spanish markings.

rustypirate
03-08-2007, 10:23 PM
+1 on what Smokehouse said, there is some mis-information floating around about the barrels on the latest imported kits.

The only ones I have seen are new in wrap SPANISH made barrels.