Got wood?

[LCPL 4]

I'm looking to change out my black widow buttstock for some wood. Anyone know of a good source of a US made wood buttstock with hardware?

[okie shooter]

Thats the 10000 dollar question, I havent seen any one making US wood stock parts for the cetme or the G-3. There are plastic ones made here and imported wood ones.

[Rampager]

Easiest way I know of to switch to wood is to either find US mag followers and floor plates (2 parts) or use thermold mags (3 parts).

[SteelCore]

I had a Black widow ith thatawful cheap brittle poystyrene plastic, too. I got the thermolds and got some HK furniture, the OD green. then I got some CETME Mod B furniture for the front, but now I want some HK wood for the back...the OD is gonna get a rest. All my delving into SKSs and Mosins has really turned me onto the wood furniture.

[Rampager]

I'm a woody guy myself. :hubba:

[LCPL 4]

I would rather not depend on mags for compliance. Also, could someone please post an image of their bolt buffer assembly removed from their back widow if handy? If not, no need to tear one down. I'll get to it later. Just want to compare to someone elses.

[Rampager]

I remember back on the old cetme board a guy was offering to make some wood for us a while back, but I don't think it ever came through.

I hate to use mags too for compliance, but I'm using them for a Century G3 and a Century L1A1 after adding the wood furniture cause there really isn't any other option as far as I know.

I figure when I want wood I'll use the US Thermolds and if I want to use non-US mags I can always switch back to the black plastic furniture in just a few minutes. Just my 2 cents....

[jfowl31]

The mags aren't necessarily something to rely on completely, but they are a nice thing to have to bridge the gap until you can track down some US made trigger components.

I've even though about sending a blank to my grandpa to get him to make me a nice stock... he's quite a master carpenter and has made some stocks before.

I'd like to get a really nice set of HK wood to add to the arsenal of stocks I have. My honest favorite of all the stocks I have is the brand new Cetme wood I have stained green.

[Longhorn789]

I've even though about sending a blank to my grandpa to get him to make me a nice stock... he's quite a master carpenter and has made some stocks before..


Your grandfather could name his price around here if he started churning these out!

[jettag]

Get grampa on it, I'll take a set please...
Stained with Blood Red Spanish Wine!

[jfowl31]

He doesnt have time for that, I can guarantee you that. If I were to give hima blank, he'd mess with it in his spare time, and I could pretty much bank on it being a solid 6 months or so before anything was done.

[nalioth]

Go look up BattlerifleG3 on http://forum.saiga-12.com. He makes custom furniture to order and does really nice work. You'd probably have to send him a set of cetme furniture for him to copy, but he'd create it in whatever wood you wanted.

BattlerifleG3 is also making wood Cetme/G3 pistol grips but i'm not sure how many (if any) he has ready to go.

[The Great 308]

One possibility is to use a PTR US made hammer, sear, trigger and trigger housing(and the remainder of an original G3 FCG). I believe that the housing will also fit into the Cetme trigger housing. That plus one of their black plastic US made pistol grips would give you five US made parts. It is expensive to go this route but then you can use all of the cheap HK mags that you want to as well as any HK or Cetme furniture.

[jfowl31]

are there any US made Navy style trigger groups with US made junk inside?

[jfowl31]

Actually now that I think about it... Im up a few parts right now. Ive got these US parts

1. Barrel
2. Receiver
3. P-grip
4. Cocking handle
5. MB
6. Hammer
7. Sear
8. Trigger
9. I believe the whole lower frame is US made too

[The Great 308]

are there any US made Navy style trigger groups with US made junk inside?

Yes PTR makes them if you are going for the navy look. Very pricy however very nice.

http://www.ptr91.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=107

[jfowl31]

yeah thats pretty sweet... How do you make that mount on a Cetme though? If its all plastic, and doesnt have the shelf to rest on....................... and since a 3rd pin OBVIOUSLY makes it a machine gun................... Or does it have the shelf, and its just covered up by the ears? Maybe one day........

[nalioth]

yeah thats pretty sweet... How do you make that mount on a Cetme though? If its all plastic, and doesnt have the shelf to rest on....................... and since a 3rd pin OBVIOUSLY makes it a machine gun................... Or does it have the shelf, and its just covered up by the ears? Maybe one day........ It's US legal. Comes with 5 countable US parts, from what I read on the page.

[Cavalryman]

Is there still any new imported CETME wood around? CTD is out and I'd like to have one more set.

[jfowl31]

It's US legal. Comes with 5 countable US parts, from what I read on the page.

Yeah but is it already made to fit on a Cetme? As in is it already cut for th shelf-type receiver rather than the original pinned type?

I have to say that if I was building a Cetme, or a G3 for that matter, I think Id dump the money and get that, and maybe a PTR-91 barrel, and build it on a PTR receiver. Might be a little pricey, but that would be one damn nice rifle... especially once you put on the PSG-1 stock, and vented wide forearm.... man it sure is nice to dream.

[Seattlefungus]

The PTR91 Navy grip is fully drop in on HK91, G3 & CETME. The forward pin is really a fake to give that G3 look. (I have one). i't a fully front shelved semi trigger pack. The dif is no metal trigger housing. It all fits in the plastic Navy trigger mount. Sweet action on it tho. And yes, it is very pricy. And on the question of using the PTR91 pack with the sear, hammer and trigger, use the PTR trigger pack metal incert and it will fit into a CETME trigger housing. But you have to use an HK selector. The selector cuts are differnt. But the pack as described counts a 4 US parts. Put on a US cocking lever, makes 5, Pistol grip 6, and the Flash suppreser that Swee makes is 7. Then you can use what ever stocks you want.

[jfowl31]

dont forget the receiver... I thought that pistol grip was built in to the whole thing. That's cool that it fits right on a Cetme. Yet another thing that I will have to save up for I guess....... I need another Cetme first to slap all this stuff on. Ok, so its never gonna happen.

[westcoast]

recieved an e-mail from matt at ironwood stocks in san jose,calif he said they will have them available soon so send them an e-mail to show interest.maybe it would speed things along!

[gunbunny]

I remember a board member - Shari 71 - was getting ready to custom make stocks. Didn't he posted a pic of his lathe set up that could "copy" kinda like a key machine?

[jettag]

Glad to see I'm not the first on the site this morning...
I'd love to see a new stock set on mine...
I'm an Arborist with decent carving skills so 'El Chopo' is gonna get dressed up with red Spanish wine stained, knurled, nobby wood.
Can't wait to post...

[LCPL 4]

recieved an e-mail from matt at ironwood stocks in san jose,calif he said they will have them available soon so send them an e-mail to show interest.maybe it would speed things along!

Email sent. Thanks.

[okie shooter]

recieved an e-mail from matt at ironwood stocks in san jose,calif he said they will have them available soon so send them an e-mail to show interest.maybe it would speed things along!

That was one of the places I thought might be makeing them but went to their website, alas none there still. Boy though those are some nice looking stocks for FAL/L1A1 rifles though.

[Smokehouse69]

I think I'm going to try and make a wooden stock, it's in the planning stage right now, but many years ago I made a Mauser 98 stock from some poplar and red oak laminated together. It was unusual looking, but it worked. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures since I sold it 25 years ago. I had some 3 and 4 foot lengths of oak and poplar that was left in a scrap pile at a home under construction
I ran the boards through a planer until they were about 3/8 of an inch thick then, I laminated the boards together using resin glue, until I had a chunk 3 inches thick. I rough sawed the chunk into a stock shaped blank with a bandsaw.
The rest of the work was done with a plunge router, electric drill, wood rasps, files and sander. It took me about a month of working week nights and weekends. Of course I didn't have the internet to distract me back then, or arthritis to slow me down.

Even with that a CETME/G3 type buttstock shouldn't be near as much work as the Mauser stock.

[drine]

I'm going to have to not buy another firearm and dedicate the savings to tools. I've done lots of woodworking and this would really be a snap, with proper tools..ah the story of my life.

[jettag]

DIY till ya die!
I'm too hard headed and too compulsive to just buy a drop in stockset.
Just trying to settle on a pattern that looks good and Feels Right On.
A little cheek rest, slightly longer, maybe a stash spot for patches/tools?

Anyone ever make a woody folder jus fer shiz n gigglz?

[Hoot]

Is there still any new imported CETME wood around? CTD is out and I'd like to have one more set.

Copes Distributing (http://www.copesdist.com/cetme.htm) Alleges they have them. Great price also.

Hoot

[Smokehouse69]

If this is a representative example, it has a nice pattern and a great price. $15.99 I think.

[jfowl31]

whoa... what are those smokehouse? are they American made? never seen em before.

[jfowl31]

btw, what kinda wood is that? looks almost like pine, but that would be waaay too soft for a riflestock.

[Smokehouse69]

That's what Cope's has up on their website as an example of their new CETME wood. I'm pretty sure it's Spanish, not USA made. :mad:

[drine]

It didn't quite match. I bought yet another set from wildbillcody and miracle of all miracles, his forearm match my buttstock perfectly. I now have the forearm and buttstock left over on the wts. The Cope's is perfect as far as conditon goes. They should try to match them better. There are no brass inserts in the stock for your pins though but there was a forearm screw. I stripped the wts set down and will stain it a darker color to get it to match.
I just wanted the blonde look!:grin2:

[drine]

:spew:
Yes I do have the correct count to do the furniture trade. Dang me if I were to put that Spanish wood on the rifle versus the plasti-stock century made. Get a thermold mag, and do what you want, er pretty much.

[jfowl31]

That picture looks funny to me. I havent checked out my stock in a while, but I dont remember mine having that drastic of a step in it from wide at the rear to thin at the front. Could also be the angle... they took a pic of there from the bottom, and Im used to seeing it from the side.

[Hoot]

Jordan, those are pretty indicative of the Spanish made replacement kits. The set I got from TAPCO, refinished and gave to weasel_master, looked like those from the Copes site. They finished up nicely though, looking like this:

http://www.frontiernet.net/~hill195/CETME/tapco1.jpg
http://www.frontiernet.net/~hill195/CETME/tapco2.jpg
http://www.frontiernet.net/~hill195/CETME/stock.jpg
http://www.frontiernet.net/~hill195/CETME/forearm.jpg

I didn't think they were pine, but I am hard pressed to guess what they were. Not a wood I've seen in these parts. Perhaps something native to Spain.

Hoot

[jettag]

on wood grips? I know i've seen two styles at least, target and standard.
I don't mind reproducing them but I'd like to have pics to spur me along.
That wood count for 1 US made part no?

[97th Signalman]

Easiest way I know of to switch to wood is to either find US mag followers and floor plates (2 parts) or use thermold mags (3 parts).
That is what I did. However, finding US made floor plates and followers has gotten tougher.

[97th Signalman]

I meant to post a photo of my wood. It was one of the "new" or unissued sets that Tapco was selling a couple of years ago. I got the whole set for around $20. I did add a US made FH/MB from IGF and US Made follower and floorplates to stay in compliance.

[Hoot]

on wood grips? I know i've seen two styles at least, target and standard.
I don't mind reproducing them but I'd like to have pics to spur me along.
That wood count for 1 US made part no?

If you have access to a duplicator and can crank some out for a reasonable price, I'd be good for one. I take it you don't want to just reproduce the stock plastic one? I already have a nice block of walnut for one and intended to just carve it. Unfortunately, the mortise bit I had for making the square grip shaft hole was not long enough to go all the way through the blank, so it got thrown in the "some day" projects box.

Hoot

[97th Signalman]

If you have access to a duplicator and can crank some out for a reasonable price, I'd be good for one. I take it you don't want to just reproduce the stock plastic one? I already have a nice block of walnut for one and intended to just carve it. Unfortunately, the mortise bit I had for making the square grip shaft hole was not long enough to go all the way through the blank, so it got thrown in the "some day" projects box.

Hoot
Yes, the grip can count as a US part for compliance with 922.

[rpmfly2]

It looks very nice! I like wood better than plastic!