Does it get any better for a newbie (help)

[TS308]

Hello,
i found this site while searching info on the Cetme rifles , a buddy of mine wanted to sell me this Cetme last year said he shot it 20 rounds of commerical ammo and it ran good and he put it in a safe , i never made it over to look at the rifle but i did the other day he offered me the Cetme for $325.00 , he said take it home and shoot it and if i like it to send him a check . well it took it out today to fire i ran 40 rounds through the rifle with no problems at all , went back into the house and got 20 more rounds from my ammo can and went back out to shoot another 20 rounds through it on shot 18 i had a case seperate the ammo is all nato i bought back in 98 the case that split was a WCC dated 79 . so i need to buy a Broken Shell Extractor since im close to Midway i can have it in 2 days is this the extractor that i need or do i need another model ??

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=546439

as far as the rifle i enjoyed shooting it recoil was low to me and it shot softball size groups at 50 yds with the heavy trigger , ive had other MBR before fal, M1A, poly M14 clone, and a Springfield Sar that had a aluminum receiver but i got into the tactical rifles and sold them all back in 02

as far as the bolt goes i gauged it out at 2 and the bolt hasnt been grounded on .

so i think i'll go ahead and buy the rifle put some rounds though it and see if it's a Keeper or not .

the rifle is a Century Sporter Cetme

Thanks to all for any replies
TS

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[Rampager]

Cool looking rifle...looks mean, I like it. What kind of bipod is that? is it aftermarket? or a G3?

[Smokehouse69]

Yep, that looks like the one you need. Very handy it you own a CETME or an HK,
Here's another thread with pictures of two types of extractors, the one on the right is like the one from Midway and is the preferred extractor.

http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=491

After you get the case out, scrub the chamber flutes with a .45 bore brush.

[franks71vw]

Isnt that a clamp on bipod?:g3: nice rifle..

[richl]

heres where i get my hk parts........... robs a great person to deal with . good luck . i always use him ......

http://www.robertrtg.com/g3.html

heres mine ........


http://i17.tinypic.com/47cayzc.jpg

[drine]

Look's like you've done good. Keep that sucker and we'll help you get it worked out.
Read the stickies again. Are you saying you have a bolt gap of .002? It needs a little work before you shoot it anymore. You should have no less than .004. Pull your bolt out and check all the meaurements and give a shout back as to what you find.
I hoped you cleaned it really good. The flutes could be really nasty. Take a chamber brush or .40 cal or even a 20 ga brush and give those flutes a real cleaning.
I've had bad NATO ammo before, Lake City to be exact that split but not due to the rifle. Just old.
Again, welcome. Read the stickies at the beginning of this section. Clean the rifle really good, check that bolt gap again and let us know what you find.
325.00 is a real steal now and it doesn't sound like you have any major problem that can't be fixed cheap and easy.
David:welcome1:

[nalioth]

Cool looking rifle...looks mean, I like it. What kind of bipod is that? is it aftermarket? or a G3?

It's a universal spring loaded clamp on bipod. Mine looks just like it. They are made of zytel.

[drine]

Holy Shite, Batman. richl that's one more for the books. Awesome rig you got there. You need to repost that pic in the other CETME section that shows different configurations. Yeah I know, it's a G3 and not a CETME but neat looking. Good job. Does the night vision work for you? David

[richl]

its works super ... you got to see it to beleive it ........ heheheeh

[drine]

The more I look the better quality I see. Tell us please.

[richl]

what ya want to know .............??

[snapshot762]

heres where i get my hk parts........... robs a great person to deal with . good luck . i always use him ......

http://www.robertrtg.com/g3.html

heres mine ........


http://i17.tinypic.com/47cayzc.jpg

WOW!:coolp: That is wicked richl! Night vision and a launcher! I assume the launcher is for smoke and flares, not grenades.

If you don't mind me asking, how much does that weigh?

[richl]

well arnie would blow a nut lifting it :1092: i have a actual 203 for my m16.. the 37mm is actually a perfict fit for my hands since i did'nt like the wide forearm grip ... personally im rather large 6'9 and 280lbs .... so it dont bother me . it weighs about 35 pounds loaded for bear................

[jettag]

TS308 lemme reiterate...buy it!

My CETME looks like dogshit but it puts up groups better than I can shoot for sure! If you're like us tinkerin's half the fun anyway...can't spend your life on the range but if you own a couple good tools you'll have fun with it and a real nice rifle in no time.

[jfowl31]

Looks like a century build to me... or at least a Century receiver. Note the absence of the paddle mag release.

sorry... back to OP subject... As Drine said, your bolt gap should be between .004 and .020" and the nominal bolt length is 1.835"

The case separation could have been from dirty flutes, or a jacked up bolt gap leaving the case in the chamber too long. Or it could have been just some softer than normal brass or something. Post some pics of the busted case, and maybe somepics of ejected brass if you happen to have any, and normally you can tell how clean the flutes are from the ejected brass.

[jfowl31]

and... did you just weld the scope mount to the receiver?????

[jfowl31]

sorry one more OT post... Richl... you DESPARATELY need a cherokee cheekpiece for that scope mounted so ungodly high! I got a crick in my neck trying to shoot mine scoped up, and mines not even close to being that high over bore.

[TS308]

Hello,
Thanks for the replies , i ordered the extractor from Midway should have it in a couple of days , can someone tell me how the extractor works to remove the split case ?? im going to buy the rifle and put some time in it and see if it's a keeper i will ask more questions for sure .

for now i need a couple more items

mags which mfg ?? works best as the rifle came with 1 mag .
scope mount must be low mount

when i get the case out i will post some pics of the case

Thanks Again for the replies
TS2

[drine]

Go G3 for sure. The only mag my CETME doesn't like is a CETME mag. Really it will learn to like it but it's unused and the spring is tight.
Buy one of the specials 50 for $50 if you can, otherwise a few dollars a piece will get you a bunch in which some will work and some won't. You can tinker or toss the ones that don't work.
Honest to goodness I've never had to use a case extractor. Had one for an M-60 but never used it. It will have shoulders just under bore size and just over the casing size so that you pull/push the case out.
Someone explain it better please.

[rustypirate]

The extractor goes into the inside of the broken shell just like it was a cartridge going into the chamber.

There are spring loaded or wedge driven nubbs on the end of the extractor that protrude beyond the end of the neck of the broken case, and hook onto the front edge of the neck. At the rear of the extractor is a lip just like on the base of the cartridge, and your bolt's extractor hooks onto this lip and when you pull back (read drive back with a mallet) on the charging handle it pulls the broken brass out of the chamber.

[TS308]

Hello,
Thanks for the reply , thats how i pictured it in my mind ,, working with bolt guns never needed to extract a case before . will post pics of the process for others to enjoy !!
Thanks Again
TS


The extractor goes into the inside of the broken shell just like it was a cartridge going into the chamber.

There are spring loaded or wedge driven nubbs on the end of the extractor that protrude beyond the end of the neck of the broken case, and hook onto the front edge of the neck. At the rear of the extractor is a lip just like on the base of the cartridge, and your bolt's extractor hooks onto this lip and when you pull back (read drive back with a mallet) on the charging handle it pulls the broken brass out of the chamber.