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Otis61
03-18-2007, 10:15 PM
I just got my imbel kit and have furniture, and fcg, but am not sure where to get a reciever for reasonable price. I know about DSA, but where else?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

LostInTexas
03-18-2007, 10:52 PM
You might try Harlan at www.nodakspud.com I've heard that they were beginning to ship.

k98k792
03-18-2007, 11:33 PM
I got one from Planning . PM him and see if he has anymore to sell.

gunbunny
03-19-2007, 12:12 AM
Otis,
Where'd you get your kit? I'm trying to figure out the best kit at a good price.

pidaster
03-19-2007, 08:03 AM
Go with the DCI receiver from nodakspud.

Otis61
03-19-2007, 12:05 PM
gunbunny
I got it from interordnance. Not the best price, and not all matching #s. But it has desent finish, brand new boltand carrier, and a whole set of us furniture. Getting close to all the parts I need. will keep you posted.

tump
03-20-2007, 06:14 AM
most people do not recomend it but i bought my reciever at entreprise and had them assemble it (they had a special going) had it back in 10 days coast to coast.it runs like a top and they have a good warrenty.:cool1:

okie shooter
03-20-2007, 07:03 AM
Not sure but DCI/Nodakspud is listing them as not in current production, DCI did everyone right on clearing the mess from FAC but they say on the web site you can get on the list for information when they get going, it could be a while.

Otis61
03-20-2007, 07:24 AM
how do I get ahold of entiprise?

okie shooter
03-20-2007, 07:27 AM
http://www.entreprise.com/

I do beleive

Otis61
03-20-2007, 07:48 AM
got it. thanks

okie shooter
03-20-2007, 07:50 AM
Otis, do some research, there are gun builders/smiths that will not work on enterprise receivered rifles, if you have a problem with the build, the same as many will not touch some of the century built receivers, thus caviat empitor.

Otis61
03-20-2007, 06:20 PM
this is all very confusing. I know you get what you pay for. Even so I have a tendency to look for a better deal. I dont think there is anything on this one I cant do myself, but it is my first FAL. I dont know which version(1,2,or3)to get. What should I do. I dont want a piece of crap.

k98k792
03-20-2007, 06:23 PM
Otis call our fellow forum member Ken.He has built a jillion FALs and is a great guy to talk to. He will give you the skinny on all the recievers, tell him K98 sent you. http://www.globalmilitarygunsmithing.com/

tump
03-20-2007, 08:14 PM
it does'nt matter if its a 1,2,or3 type rec. all that has to do with is the lightening cuts around the edges of the rec. the #3 is more square and the 1and2 have the edges trimmed to make the rec lighter.:icon_smile: #3 are usually cheaper because of less machineing

Otis61
03-21-2007, 08:01 AM
I love this place. Any time I need something soneone is there, and on it. Thanks tou guys. I guess I should take a breath and slow down a little. Think things through. I was ready to mak a decision and plop some money down, like yesterday. I think I'll take a step back.

tump
03-21-2007, 03:09 PM
the fal files is full of fal info.:kid:

Planning
04-02-2007, 07:46 PM
i do not have any more receivers to sell.


thanks every one who has asked if i had one for sale.

AndyC
05-19-2007, 10:04 AM
For those who haven't seen this already...

Top to bottom - Type 2, Type 3, Type 1:

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7379/falreceiversev2.jpg

rep30cal
07-10-2007, 02:34 AM
I did a search on the web just before I made my final decision to buy my
Entreprise Arms/Imbel and the site below had a test on three EA's and a
DSA. The results were the same as the EA they had tested a year earlier,
the DSA was a better looking rifle but it wasn't any better in actual usage.
I think all four rifles were within 2 inch groups at 100 yards. I'm sure that
every one of the companies have lemons of some sort but even a Century
CETME can be a jewel. I bought a FA91 with an aluminum reciever and
everyone said I was we tall did, that thing shot like a dream. I'll be looking
for more info on my EA and it's workings but so far I'm happy.

www.cruffler.com/review-STG58C-reprise.html - 19k

Player
07-10-2007, 03:10 AM
if you can find a stripped imbel receiver, marked century or not, gear logo or not, those are good receivers. they're forged too.

trick is finding it. they're expensive now, which is why i'm very happy with my imbel receiver/L1A1... it went up in price...

i'm thinking the imbels will continue to climb up in price, not only cause they're good receivers, but cause they ceased importation too.

MasterGunner
08-18-2007, 02:58 PM
Just my $0.02.

I've built four Commonwealth FALs (Aussie L1A1 Vietnam issue, Aussie L1A1-F1 for Papua New Guinea, Brit L1A1, and Canadian C1A1) and all of these were on Entreprise inch-pattern receivers. They went together without a hitch.

All my Metric FALs (T48, StG 58, and G1 used the DCI receivers). The Imbel used an Imbel gear logo and my Israeli light barrel FAL used and Armscorp-SBI Type 3 made in Israel. The SBI, Imbel, and DCI receivers were all OK and fell together.

The problem receivers are the ones made for Century Arms Intenational and Hesse and Williams Arms (WAC) These receivers have problems and you'd be advised to give them a wide berth unless they're on a built-up gun and it runs. The WAC is made of aluminum and isn't called the aluma-bomb for nothing. Stay WELL clear of one of these.

The Hesses are pretty uniformly crap; the CAI receivers are all over the map depending on who made them.

The first Entreprise receivers are hit and miss. However, they seem to have gotten their QA act together (as judging from my four Commonwealth receviers).

If you can get a DCI/NDS receiver, do so. Imbels (a Brazilian licensee of FN) are good, but hard to come by now. DS Arms in Barrington, IL makes the best quality U.S. receivers around. They have built them in Metric Type 1, 2, and 3 and in Inch pattern. Be prepared to pay a premium price. Entreprise has built all four types of receivers as did DSA. They aren't cheap either. For the best bang for the buck it's DCI/NDS if you can get one. The DCI/NDS are only availble in Metric Type 1.

bspring
08-21-2007, 01:27 PM
I built an Imbel kit on an Enterprise Type 2. The ejector block was a hair high...a little dremiling on the top of the ejector cured that.

Bill

AndyC
09-10-2007, 02:01 PM
I built mine on a DSA type 2; a long wait but worthwhile. Personally, I'd order a receiver direct from DSA before you actually need it, if that makes sense.

Occasionally you'll find receivers up for sale in the Marketplace at falfiles.com - typically Imbels & DSA for around $450.

Imbel or DSA - awesome; top-quality.
DCI/Nodakspud - were being produced, now vaporware.
Ohio Rapid Fire - vaporware.
Entreprise - blergh. Recent reports on falfiles show poor castings.
Century - workable with some effort.

Otis61
03-04-2008, 03:14 PM
Finaly got my FAL built. Finished yesterday, exept Duracoat. Runs great. Ended up getting an Entreprise. Not too many problems. A couple, but not bad. Pics to follow.

K.O.A.M.
03-04-2008, 06:09 PM
I have four FAL's with Imbel receivers and a 5th waiting to be built. I wouldn't hesitate to use a DSA, Argentine or a Coonan. Recent production Entreprise is supposed to be vastly improved. Gunplumber says he'll work on them now.

Trung Si
03-04-2008, 07:55 PM
K.O.A.M. WhenYou say Argentine are You talking about a Rosario?
Because I have on of those on my Rifle!

K.O.A.M.
03-04-2008, 08:23 PM
Yep. Either Rosario or FMAP are first quality receivers.

Otis61
03-04-2008, 11:43 PM
Here it is. Funny thing is I'm already thinking about the next one.

OrygunKid
03-05-2008, 03:05 AM
Hey Otis,
Looks good! I've been curious about getting into an FAL for a while now, and was really eying one at the gun show in Albany on Sunday. I figure I should do some research before I buy so I don't have a repeat of the CETME all over again:rolleyes: But I was curious, if I'm looking at a parts kit what is a desirable model? There seems to be more metric stuff available, but which is better?? Any ideas about these parts kits..http://www.centerfiresystems.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1521

Otis61
03-05-2008, 07:01 AM
Well I think that inch,or metric would make a good rifle. They've been made in several diferent countrys, and carried by 80 (I think) countrys all over the world. The inch mainly come from english speaking countrys. ( Britain, Canada, Austrailia) In the 80s in the Falklands Britain, and Argentina both fought against each other with FALs. One inch, one metric.

The biggest thing, like you said, is parts availability. There are alot of commplyance parts for metric. And lately I've seen alot of inch kits.

JustJohn369
04-25-2008, 10:20 PM
Did you get a type 3? It took me a year to get mine in. I did not have any trouble out of it though. I was waiting on a DCI, but they weren't putting any out so I started building AK's on DCI's Very easy builds. DCI makes a good product. Really wanted a FAL but had to go with Enterp.

Otis61
04-26-2008, 12:42 AM
Yeah. Type three. I'm very happy with it. One of my best shooters.