G3 in Shotgun News [Archive]

rideronthestorm

03-24-2008, 10:25 AM

There is an interesting and sickening example of Iraqi G3 in latest Shotgun News. In the 20 March 2008 edition page 30 is an example of super bubba'd G3. Best read on an empty stomach.

okie shooter

03-24-2008, 11:32 AM

Its an iranian, I guess they do what they do to keep and get them working, as I am guessing would happen in most insurections around the world.

SCGrotz

03-24-2008, 12:21 PM

have a link?

okie shooter

03-24-2008, 01:29 PM

I saw the article in the print version of the magazine. Not much help on that.

K.O.A.M.

03-24-2008, 01:33 PM

I've seen that one before. Bubba lives in Baghdad.

wwIIBuff

03-24-2008, 05:12 PM

I love the AK style pull back on the bolt

omerta123

03-24-2008, 05:18 PM

i read it.. i laughed

Optimus Prime

03-24-2008, 06:59 PM

Somebody needs to scan this picture...

omerta123

03-24-2008, 11:21 PM

if nobody does it, ill try getting around to it tommorrow

Schmitty

03-24-2008, 11:46 PM

I love the AK style pull back on the bolt

I saw that too and actually thought it was pretty neat. :airtight:

turbothis

03-25-2008, 10:02 AM

i tried

turbothis

03-25-2008, 10:04 AM

my camera suks

ctdemolay0405

03-25-2008, 10:05 AM

wow, thats's something.

Old Jimmy

03-25-2008, 10:06 AM

I wouls sure hate to see the muzzle blast out of that thing! I bet the recoil on full auto is something else too.

Old Jimmy

Schmitty

03-25-2008, 12:15 PM

I want to see one with a collapsible stock. :lol2:

rideronthestorm

03-25-2008, 12:18 PM

Notice how the stock is modified to for recoil? I'll be that was after the first time auto was tested. Actually not a bad idea for a build...

hunter_la5

03-25-2008, 12:18 PM

I wonder how well it actually works with the barrel cut so short? I don't imagine they have HK51 style LPs floating around all over the place. I bet it's a bitch to cock too

SteelCore

03-25-2008, 12:21 PM

Wow...I guess you can add a gas tube to a g3.

I can't believe that thing worked.

hunter_la5

03-25-2008, 03:17 PM

Wow...I guess you can add a gas tube to a g3.

I can't believe that thing worked.

is that really being used as a gas tube, or just a cocking tube? I suppose if it were a gas tube that would help it cycle with the shortened barrel

the original STG45 design was a roller-locked gas operated design, but was changed to blowback to make it simpler, so it could theoretically be made to work

okie shooter

03-25-2008, 04:54 PM

I think we are all giving the guy who made this too much credit on any design, its delay blow back but with maybe a gasport, but maybe not. They may have just taken a hacksaw to the barrel, then slipped on a yugo gas block and welded or silver soldered it to the barrel and receiver of the G-3. Then after realizeing they couldnt cock it they sloted the receiver and added the ak lever.

I wonder how well it actually works with the barrel cut so short? I don't imagine they have HK51 style LPs floating around all over the place. I bet it's a bitch to cock too
without the advantage gained by the cocking lever, Yep I bet its a real one to cock too.
I wonder if its more than a single shot. You would have to tinker alot to get it to work well in that state.

hunter_la5

03-25-2008, 05:17 PM

i was thinking the same thing, surely it can't be more than single shot, unless he really knew what he was doing or he was really lucky

texlurch

04-12-2008, 10:04 AM

Anyone see this in Shotgun News? I don't know why Perro couldn't get his to run, this thing seems to work fine.... :rolleyes:

Take one well used G3, whack off the barrel and cocking tube, weld on an AK sight post, grenade sight and cocking handle to the bolt. The you just need to cut a slot in the receiver for the handle.

They said the fireball resembles Hiroshima....

Think this thing might be hard to cock?

texlurch

04-12-2008, 10:10 AM

Here's a little better pic.... :thumbup:

wwIIBuff

04-12-2008, 10:19 AM

I am not sure about that one. It looks like it could have been made over here. Those welds look a lot like my old century :rolleyes:

texlurch

04-12-2008, 10:25 AM

Think how short it would be with a collapsible stock on it... whoa!

I think I can do a better job on one than that.. a SKS charging handle would look better, and leave the G3 triple on the front...

hmmmm fake can over a 16" barrel and it would still cycle fine... sure solves the cocking tube problems..

But I bet it is an absolute biyaatch to cock!!

tump

04-12-2008, 02:32 PM

looks like they made it into a gas piston type rifle not delayed roller lock.

texlurch

04-12-2008, 03:02 PM

No, it still has the rollers and bolt head; they just did away with the cocking handle and tube... but then again almost looks like an AK gas piston on the end of the bolt carrier.. which would interfere with the recoil rod and spring.. my guess is the end of the bolt carrier was just turned down to fit into the AK gas block....

Optimus Prime

04-12-2008, 03:03 PM

It had no sights either... that was a pretty interesting article.

Buelligan

04-12-2008, 03:37 PM

It looks like the SPRAY and PRAY mod.

Patria Povo

04-12-2008, 05:12 PM

Ah, I believe that's the new Century Tactical Sporter CETME!

rifleman

04-12-2008, 05:49 PM

spray and pray is all they seem to know to do, so it works fine:icon_biggrin:

Smokehouse69

04-12-2008, 08:04 PM

Sights! We don't need no stinkin' sight! :century:

jfowl31

04-12-2008, 09:30 PM

Definitely interesting. I think someone posted the article a couple months ago... i'll see if i can find it.

jfowl31

04-12-2008, 09:31 PM

here it is... definitely an interesting idea. takes a rubber mallet to cock it im sure.

http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=6309&highlight=shotgun+news

NWAR

04-13-2008, 05:09 PM

Think how short it would be with a collapsible stock on it... whoa!

Just messing around.....

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa282/05NWAero/parts/Untitled-2copy.jpg

ptoguy

04-13-2008, 08:52 PM

Its totally a one of a kind operating systems too.
Call it a "gas piston assisted, delayed blow back?"

hunter_la5

04-13-2008, 10:14 PM

Its totally a one of a kind operating systems too.
Call it a "gas piston assisted, delayed blow back?"

huh, now there's an idea. that might be able to compensate for the extra-short barrel and lack of a HK51-type locking piece.... otherwise that thing's probably single shot

the original STG45 prototypes (from which the CETME was based) were actually gas operated/roller locked, but were later redesigned to the delayed blowback to simplify production and reduce weight

texlurch

04-14-2008, 06:32 AM

I don't think it uses the gas piston; it would have to have a large hole in the middle for the recoil spring rod.

Also, the article states it runs in FA....

tony

04-14-2008, 06:46 AM

Just messing around.....

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa282/05NWAero/parts/Untitled-2copy.jpg

Perfect! I'll take two please :D

ctdemolay0405

04-14-2008, 08:10 AM

make it 4

hunter_la5

04-14-2008, 10:40 AM

I don't think it uses the gas piston; it would have to have a large hole in the middle for the recoil spring rod.

i doubt it does either, just saying that would be an interesting (though perhaps unnecessary) idea.

if it actually runs well in FA, then I'm impressed

Big Steve

04-19-2008, 11:02 PM

Did anyone see the "Guns of the bad guys" article in the March 20th issue of SGN?
They had a captured cut down G3 with a AK gas block lashed up on it. The barrel was cut down to about 6 or 8 inches and the cocking tube was hacked off and a yugo gas block and tube was bubbawelded on to it. Then Hajji needed a way to cock it so he welded a cocking handle right onto the bolt carrier at the front of the ejection port. Then he cut a slot for it along the side of the receiver. The thing must have been a bear to cock, without the cam effect of the original cocking assy.
Sorry I have no pics, maybe someone can scan it and post it.
Steve

turbothis

04-19-2008, 11:10 PM

lol, i will start a post too...... just wait it will come to this one......

Old Jimmy

04-19-2008, 11:38 PM

I bet it one of Turbo's first builds when he found a bunch of guns blown up in a pile and did what he could while he was bored!!!

Old Jimmy

rifleman

04-19-2008, 11:44 PM

has anyone seen... oh wait yeah. lol

turbothis

04-19-2008, 11:55 PM

i totally see me as the new iron man preview. in the cave .....

hunter_la5

04-20-2008, 03:22 AM

lol this has got to be the fourth thread to cover this.... :rolleyes:

brewskzilla

04-20-2008, 06:37 AM

I never did see that monstrocity. I guess I'll just go on with my life knowing that somewhere in the middle east the piece de resistance of all things bubba is sitting there, unobserved by moi... :icon_neutral:

Big Steve

04-20-2008, 10:47 AM

lol this has got to be the fourth thread to cover this.... :rolleyes:

Gee, EXCUSE ME HUNTER! Maybe you could direct me to the other 3? :thebird:
Steve

jfowl31

04-20-2008, 12:57 PM

Buelligan

04-20-2008, 01:02 PM

I think that FRANKENGUN was one of TTs privet stock, and some how they got a hold of it .LOL

ctdemolay0405

04-20-2008, 02:05 PM

gotta search the forum for these topics before posting them! lol.

hunter_la5

04-20-2008, 02:41 PM

I think there's only 3 now Hunter. I wonder if we can get em all merged?

http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=6640&highlight=shotgun+news

http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=6309&highlight=shotgun+news

FWIW, it was originally brought up in this thread. granted, it was not a thread solely dedicated to the one rifle, it was about shortened G3's in general.

http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=5228&highlight=shotgun+news

Gee, EXCUSE ME HUNTER! Maybe you could direct me to the other 3? :thebird:
Steve

chill out dude, I'm just giving you a hard time. I thought it was funny, I wasn't trying to complain or anything...

Big Steve

04-20-2008, 07:38 PM

Yea, Whatever Hunter! Believe it or not, some of us that do not have 4.66 posts a day, might miss a post or two. We are really frickin sorry! Roll your eyes at someone else next time.
Steve

jfowl31

04-20-2008, 08:09 PM

:kookaid:

brewskzilla

04-22-2008, 03:14 PM

Hmm... Not feeling the love, right now... Okay, thank you, Hunter, I did finally get to see the gun in question. Wow, that's really ugly, by the way. I think I'd let someone else test fire the little bastard.
What really gets me is why put a gas block on a delayed blowback operated firearm? Seems kind of retarded to me. That's like putting a bayonette on a sword.

k98k792

04-22-2008, 04:01 PM

Threads merged. Play nice.

M1 Tanker

04-22-2008, 04:16 PM

hunter_la5

04-22-2008, 04:56 PM

Damnit, this ain't Arfcom.....either f'ing help people the way we always have or don't post. Whats gotten into you guys lately? I miss posts sometimes, such as the Sig thread.....just post in the link or ask a mod to merge threads. No need trying to flame someone, poke fun at them , etc....

I apologize if I offended anyone, especially you Big Steve. I was only messing with you and meant no harm by it, but in the future I will just hold my tongue. my bad everyone.

jfowl31

04-22-2008, 05:47 PM

I apologize if I offended anyone, especially you Big Steve. I was only messing with you and meant no harm by it, but in the future I will just hold my tongue. my bad everyone.

FWIW, I figured you were just messin.... sadly, and I obviously have been a victim/culprit in this as well, some times when you type something it doesn't have the same effect as if you were talking to someone in person and ribbing them a little bit.

I never search posts before I post a new thread, but I'm on here enough that I don't miss much, but I can understand when it happens. I thought this one was funny because there wasn't just one.... but its not a big deal, I thought it humorous, and I think it just came off wrong like we were making fun of someone when really it was just kinda "giving him a hard time".

I've been known to spout off in the past, but its all in good fun.... problem is, the "good fun" sometimes doesn't translate through the internet.