Whats the diff?

[Damien]

Could some one plz explain the diffrances in the 1919A4 and the 1917A1

Is the 1917 just water cooled or are there internal diffs as well?

Will probley research this in greater detal when I get home to FL.

[rustypirate]

I beleive that the internals are pretty much the same. Obviously the trunions are different and barrels to accomodate the water jacket.

Other differences are in the rear sight assembly, but I think that may be about it..

[M1 Tanker]

Here are a few pictures you can compare too and here is the list. My 1917a1 clone is a 1919a4 kit. On an original the left side plate is different too.

Topcover - The whole top cover assembly is different. The feed mechanism is the same, but the rear sight assembly as you can see is completely different.

Top Plate Cover - The top plate itself is the same, but the cover is different.

Left Side Plate - Biggest thing is the 1917 doesn't have the rear sight assembly attached to the LSP.

Trunnion - Its different for the water jacket and the barrel.

Barrel is tapered.

Front sight on the water jacket instead of the trunnion.

Those are the biggest things to come to mind. The internals are 100% the same.

Ohioblacksheep makes a repro water jacket, trunnion mod and turns barrels.

Lucky13 makes a rear sight assembly and uses some original parts. Both of them can be found on the 1919a4 board.

Are you thinking about building one?

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[Damien]

Thanks guys the pics were great M1
you made it official I'm going to get 3 1919 kits
1 1919a4
1 1919a6
1 1917

now just to get my tax return
wish I would have bought kits years ago but n o i had to wait
The kits i really wanted were ww2 parts but now there going for 3000 last time i checked remember when they use to be 200 for IMI kits.
now to decide ware to buy kits and side plates
was thinking weaponeer for kits
and halo for side plates

what do you all think

[Damien]

BTW I have a 2 full page list of stuff I want to build have lists of parts kits and receivers. since i drive a truck i research all of this in my down time when im not sleeping or eating thank goodness I have laptop.

just wish the parts sets werent drying up know i have more money

Well maby not but at least i can pay down the card just hope i gather everything before the next ban.

got bit by the build bug since i was on cetmerifles
started buying kits then just no receivers or tools

[M1 Tanker]

We built a post sample 1919a4 at work a couple of weeks ago (FFL07/SOT, no one panic) on a Halo plate. It was the nicest plate I have ever seen and when together like a dream.

I don't know who has kits, but if you can find them, buy'em up! Then look for a 1917 top cover, I think Lucky13 may have some....those parts are damn hard to find.

[Damien]

Hers a list of places that still have kits

Saraco 7.62 NATO IMI $450
30 06 rework from 7.62 $515
combo 3006 7.62 $565

Weaponeer $400
rguns $400

This is all I know about.
I'm just buying parts kits right know then Ill concentrate on receivers
and compliance parts Thanks for the info guys

Maby ill think about a vickers next from IMA

[Damien]

M1 is that an origional ammo can and tripod?

[M1 Tanker]

Yes and yes. The tripod is a M1917a1, mine was built in 1942. I also have a 1945 AMC M2 tripod...which is what is correct for a 1919a4. Both will fit on either tripod. Ohioordnanceworks has M1917s in stock last I check.

I would go with the Karma Trigger/Sear, their's are the shiznaz

[Damien]

M1 thanks for the info very nice set up.
I registered at 1919a4 and will start gathering parts before the next ban
After I get everything I want build wise ill start building don't get to excited might be a while.

[mojohona]

Weaponeer has kits witch you already know. Have delt with Gary and he is very good to deal with. He has alot of kits. I am on the list for ohioblacksheep water jacket (original repro). Will also pick up the site and top cover from Lucky13.

[Damien]

There is a good deal going on over at 1919a4.com John Mcguire has 1919a4 Izzy kits for $385 and KMP trigger and sear for 110 and rsp for 120 3006 or 8mm barrels at 185 think if i remember correctly
will order as soon as i get paid i hope.