Lost: 600,000+ Illegal Fugitives

[cimmaronkid]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070326/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/fugitive_foreigners

Seems this country has lost a little over 600,000 fugitives that were supposed to be removed from this country and our government doesn't really know exactly where they are. They were not put in prison because according to the judical system, there weren't enough beds so they basically were released and told to show up and be deported! No wonder this country is going to hell in a hand basket. They also estimate that there are approximately 11.5-12 million illegal aliens in this country as well. But don't worry. Our government has fielded 75 teams to hunt down these people and deport them from the country. Wow, talk about job security!

[kevin]

why dont we set up tent city jails like the one sherrif in arizona and make them wear pink underwear and socks too! just keep adding fence when you need to expand the "prison"

[SSwee]

Those numbers are more than likely to the really low side of the actual counts. If they thought the numbers would make them look good then they go to the high side.

Too many bleeding hearts to use a tent city jail. I see no problem with it but I have had a gun stuck to my head while being robbed. I don't see the need to babysit a bunch of yahoos while they lay around and watch TV. Of course I think it's stupid to give a little card to a guy in the service so he can get a DI off his backside. Can't spank your kids or you go to jail because some idiot without children calls you in for abuse. Where does the insanity stop? Is common sense dead? I think stupid breeds stupid and they're breeding like rabbits. Too bad they don't eat their young like rabbits. Sorry. I'm off the box now.
SS

[kevin]

they dont get tv in the tent city jail, that particular sheriff lets them watch it but all they can watch is motivational videos he made himself!

[SSwee]

I saw or read about him and his tent jail. We need more like him.
SS

[omerta123]

im not meaning to be racist but, facts are facts, its not that hard to find them, just go to warehouse jobs, and landscaping jobs and you ll find a ton of em

[bullseye]

The problem is that the local police thet run into them frequently pass the buck and say it's not their job and let them go. That goes for county and state cops too. If they do get locked up they get out and told to come back later on. Right, like that happens.

[kpd007]

The problem is that the local police thet run into them frequently pass the buck and say it's not their job and let them go. That goes for county and state cops too. If they do get locked up they get out and told to come back later on. Right, like that happens.

bullseye....You are right here, but not quite on target. Local police do pass the buck. Why? Because local police does not have federal authority to deport anyone. Oh sure, sometimes they run into a deported felon, but INS won't show up unless you have a wagon full of them. And that is for the deported felons. Now, imagine INS getting exited about one or two, or a dozen illegals that local police deal with all the time. Not gonna happen. Too, local police are busy protecting the fair citizenry from the dirtbag citizens which outnumber the illegals.

However, local police do arrest illegals all the time. If the charges are felonious then the illegal gets his ass deported, and doesn't get out of jail until the feds show up to send him off. Blame the federal system please, not the local.

[cimmaronkid]

Totally agree with kpd on this as it isn't the local LEO's that should be having to deal with this problem, but ultimately it always comes back to bite these poor guys in the ass. Most if not all police departments today are under staffed and under funded and are then the low man on the totem and catch hell for something the federal government should have been doing for years and that is keeping tract of these people. The money has been funded for a fence. Where is it? Laws have been passed in various states and cities dealing with illegals and people who hire them and the judical system just turns their heads the other way or at most gives a company a slap on the wrist insteading of hard fines and max jail time. And the liberals won't let the states try and clean up this mess as they try and block every move in court and have thus far been very effective.

As far as Sheriff Joe goes, this man could be elected to the position of "High Potentate" here in this state. He is one of the few people in this country that is actually trying to remove the illegal aliens and fugitives whenever possible. You can always tell when it is Spring Cleaning time here in the state as the chain gangs are out in their striped outfits with the blaze orange trash bags on the side of the road picking up trash. Their reward? An extra bologna sandwich! I wish we could clone a whole congress like this man.

Check out the offical web site here at: http://www.mcso.org/ and read about the Inmate Idol Competition and check out the latest booking photos.

[omerta123]

i couldn't find the idol comp where was it?

[cimmaronkid]

Got to remember that we are #47 in education out of 50 states. Whoever did the part spelled Idol I-D-L-E. :oops: Either a gross mistake in spelling or a masterful bit of wit. I will let you be the judge of which is better. It is under Inmate Idle.:cowboy:

[bullseye]

bullseye....You are right here, but not quite on target. Local police do pass the buck. Why? Because local police does not have federal authority to deport anyone.
However, local police do arrest illegals all the time. If the charges are felonious then the illegal gets his ass deported, and doesn't get out of jail until the feds show up to send him off. Blame the federal system please, not the local.

First of all, I'm not bashing the police. I have the utmost respect for most of them. There are federal grants the sherrif can apply for to get his dept trained to deal with illegals, they just have to do it. Here in Nashville they are working on it right now, just need to apply and get the training. I always understood the problem to be wherever they were found, not fed, state, or local. If you get picked up and cannot provide proof of citizenship you should get locked up then kicked out no matter who catches you.
Local police might arrest them all the time, but there are too many cases of illegals being arrested then put back on the street to di it again. We had aa illegal here driving drunk and cross the line killing a couple in a van. The guy driving had been arested and deported over 15 times. There are many more cases like that all over the country. I do blame the federal system, they are where most of our problems come from not just on this issue, but the locals could do more with a little effort.

[kpd007]

Well, perhaps it is different for local agencies in TN. Here is WI we are at the mercy of our agencies policies. The city that I live in does not allow the local agency to do anything with illegals unless a crime is committed. If that is the case, the illegal still gets to see a judge, and still gets bond.....unless they are arrested and convicted of a felony, or have been deported once before. Then they are held in our county jail until the feds come and take them away. That seems pretty reasonable to me. I realize that just being here illegally is Federal crime and that there are no federal misdemeanors.

I personally have no problem making 12 million people felons. But, I am a little jaded because the ones that I know are usually the criminal type, heck all the illegals I know are criminals. Bullseye, I think you and I would agree on about 99.9% of the immigration issues. All I was saying is that most local police are strapped with enough to do, and get little support from the community or govt. to do anything worthwhile.

[okie shooter]

Immigration is a federal power as I beleive set down in the consitution, Thus its the federal goverments job to police, set the laws and hear the court cases on immigration. Thus as a state or local law enforcement its not with their powers to enforce immigration laws. Thus many local police departments don't even ask immigration status, unless there is a felony commited thus detention required.

Its been said here that the federal goverment will not pick up illegal aliens unless there is a whole group of them just being detained for being illegal. This is how it is handled here too, its ICE/INS which ever it is, call to either pick them up or not. The local goverment cannot hold them with out the federal goverment agreeing to pick them up thus they have to release them.

[SteelCore]

That Dept. of Homeland Security is just doing a spiff job! :jerkoff:

Nothing like government oversight to stick it to the civvies and ignore the real issues of "homeland secuity.":spew:

It is sick when the Fed gov't shirks its real jobs (national defense, border and trade controls) and starts minding out business for us (unnecessary BS legislation--HTF cares about abortion? I'll tellya whos allowed to care, the person whose freakin body it is! It is a non-issue!)

:angry: It ain't shite like gay marriage that's gonna erode the 'strong moral fibre' of this fine county, it squabbling lawmakers and sellout wings of gov.t and politix negotiating our freedoms and country away from us

:angry::angry:

OK ... I'm out.

[M1 Tanker]

Of course I think it's stupid to give a little card to a guy in the service so he can get a DI off his backside.
SS

Just a little FYI on this...they only tried that for a couple of months back during the Clinton administration and it didn't work.

[bullseye]

KPD, I'm glad we agree and I'm sure most of us here do as we all agree on stuff that makes sense. I also understand that locals are way overburdened and overworked and underpaid. I realise they catch it all when something happens and they couldn't possibly have prevented it. I've always joked that if you want to commit a crime, wait for the police to drive by then wait 5 min and the coast is clear for a while. Too much area and not enough LEOs, simple fact.
The grant is federal and any police force can apply for it to get the training they need to enforce immigration laws, what pisses me off is that most police forces don't. It's paid training and they get to ask one more question when they stop someone, and yes, it will also involve more paperwork. But I'm sure it will cut down on the repeat ofenders if we keep them locked up or out of the country. We have lost 3500+ soldiers in the 4 years of the war, we lose almost twice that a year due to illegal aliens. The difference is the soldiers volunteered, the civilians didn't, and both are on a "battlefield".

[bullseye]

[QUOTE=SteelCore;8225]That Dept. of Homeland Security is just doing a spiff job! :jerkoff:

Nothing like government oversight to stick it to the civvies and ignore the real issues of "homeland secuity.":spew:


They really do need to change their name to Homeland Insecurity. :3stooges:

[bullseye]

Here is one of the articles I was looking for... http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070131/NEWS03/70131073/1001/NEWS