Australia and Canada are neck and neck!

[jdowney]

Or perhaps its less "Canadian" and more "Idiot Airport Security Guard"

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/item.aspx?type=blog&ak=50773542.blog


'Pistol pendant causes airport holdup'

'That's the headline from the Toronto Star which is reporting that Marnina Norys, a 39-year-old Ph.D. student in Canada, was stopped by security and prohibited from wearing her necklace into the terminal.'

'Last week, security officials at Kelowna International Airport in British Columbia forced Norys to remove a silver necklace with a pendant in the shape of a Colt .45 pistol.'

'The 2-inch pendant apparently was deemed a security risk.'

'"When the woman pointed at the pendant I had no idea what she was talking about," Norys told the Star. "They made me feel ashamed, as if I should have known that it was wrong to wear this type of jewelry."'

'An airport security official told Norys was told that replica firearms are banned from planes and that she'd have to check her jewelry.'

'According to the Star, Dave Smith, director of screening operations with the Canadian Air Transport Authority (CATSA), issued a written apology to Norys and wrote that the screening officer "made a judgment call, rather than refer to CATSA's standard operating procedures. In retrospect, your revolver-shaped pendant is not a threat and should have been allowed on board the aircraft." --Roger Yu'

Sheesh! Wasn't even an AK or other scary looking rifle, I mean a pendant of an antique sixgun? I hope the pilots don't get this stupid, planes will be dropping like rocks!

[turbothis]

nice!

[nevada]

Are the airline employees stupid enough to give up the plane to a person waving a piece of jewelry?

" I have a diamond! I'm not afraid to scratch a window!"

I think screeners have to fail an inteligence test to get the job. Can't have people questioning authority.

[SteelCore]

"the screening officer "made a judgment call, rather than refer to CATSA's standard operating procedures."

No he DID NOT make a judgement call. A judgement call is when the security officer makes a ruling based on the written rule, and interpets it in relation to the specific case.

What this bozo did was blindly follow orders, like so many WWII germans in Dachau, etc.

"Can't have people questioning authority."
-->Yeah..that might lead to thought-crime, and that could getcha in trouble.

[okie shooter]

http://images.outdoorinteractive.net/mgen/314757_d.jpg
Not to comment on the judgement call, but is this jewlery or a weapon?

Everyone here knows what it is, or hopefully does(heck take a woman to a gun store and its always "such a cute thing", but its a actual working firearm that is not really that big, not sure what her jewlery looked like but this is the pro gun group here, but at a airport, in a security line, does anyone want to make a mistake and let something at all slip by? Not my idea of a fun job for what little money we pay scanners to do but if they mess up once the conquences are dire and extreme. I imagine we all would rather err to the safe side over the unsafe side.

I was in the air the day thay Reid tried to blow up the plane with his shoe, interesting as we now we take shoes off to pass security. Made me mad as heck to have them checked at Cleveland as they wern't checked at KC that morning, but then I saw the news and figgured it out. Thus we err on the side of safety, as they say some what, aircraft security is "Rocket Science" as you cannot afford a screw up.

You all comment why search grannies, because when we stop searching grannies, they will use one to smuggle something, thats why.

[rustypirate]

Oki,

I beleive that the security officer should have asked to examine the jewelry to determine if it was indeed a firearm before flatly refusing to allow it on the plane.

Once again, regulations subsituted for common sense.

[okie shooter]

Rusty, I agree on checking it was just jewlery, but after hearing that the TSA folks are tanamount to idiots, and nazis running death camps, I thought everyone should understand that they err to the side of safety and why. I imagine that some would could make that belt buckle look entirely cosmeticaly like just jewlery, though and still keep it functional.

[amd65]

All that airport boarding security is window dreasing to make the sheap feel safe. Airliners are very vulnerable to external threats, We are blessed that a determined individual or group hasn't proved it.

[brewskzilla]

being cautious is all fine and good... both arguements have merit. HOWEVER!!! right or wrong, good or bad, TSA folks are still a pain in the arse...

I'm gonna wear my Kalashnikov shirt the next time I fly. I DARE someone to say something... They will, I'm sure. Actually, I'll wear a jacket with that shirt under it, and once the plane takes off, I'll remove the jacket.

If someone panics and calls the police or the plane has to turn around, or drops out of the sky because of my t-shirt, I'll give you all 20 bucks.

Dont worry, I'll be able to afford it, because I'll sue the airline for violating my freedom of expression. Even if I dont win, the book sales should cover it.

My ammo is here!!! gotta go!!!

[brewskzilla]

Okay, you all realize that if the plane does drop out of the sky, not only will I not be able to give you all your 20 bucks, but it would be in really poor taste to ask for it. Not to mention that it probably was just a coincidence, and not really my shirt's fault.

[jdowney]

Okay, you all realize that if the plane does drop out of the sky, not only will I not be able to give you all your 20 bucks, but it would be in really poor taste to ask for it. Not to mention that it probably was just a coincidence, and not really my shirt's fault.

You could always stipulate in your will that the undertaker staple 20's to the outside of your coffin. We'll all show up and pluck 'em off as we pass :icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin:

[okie shooter]

Guys, I work in a line of busness, that there is no room for error, if so some one may die and we may have millions in dammage, and the stuff I work with is far more dangerious than most of the rest of you ever dream of(and you think their rules are overbearing, read some explosive safety manuals some time). Thus the tsa was given a job, to try to keep a repeat of 9/11 from happening again. Thus they implimented rules and regulations and we have not had a highjacking since. Is this a credit to them or the fact that after flight 93, there will not be a passive hijacking again.

Thus you dont have to fly if you feel their rules and regulations make it too diffcult and I will garentee that if you dont fly, you will not die in a hijacking(atleast in the plane for sure), otherwise they make the rules and you will follow them no matter how bad they are, or you will not get on a commerical airliner.

[jdowney]

Thus you dont have to fly if you feel their rules and regulations make it too diffcult and I will garentee that if you dont fly, you will not die in a hijacking(atleast in the plane for sure), otherwise they make the rules and you will follow them no matter how bad they are, or you will not get on a commerical airliner.
Granted, if you want to fly, you have no choice but to put up with the BS. I maintain that I have a right to call it BS when that is what it certainly is. I may choose to keep my mouth shut in order to make my flight on time, but that is the ONLY reason I would consider putting up with these idiots. For general background, I've flown once since 9/11, when it was simply the only efficient option.


Thus the tsa was given a job, to try to keep a repeat of 9/11 from happening again. Thus they implimented rules and regulations and we have not had a highjacking since. Is this a credit to them or the fact that after flight 93, there will not be a passive hijacking again.
I'd like to respectfully disagree with this, I think they're every bit as lackadaisical and inept as before 9/11. There's just a whole lot more rules and hoops to jump through. The lack of hijacking since probably has more to do with all the noise about improved security in the media.

We as taxpayers would be better served if they hired screeners for a reasonable wage and trained them to interview the passengers, just a question or two for most, more for those who seem nervous. It works. Border Patrol does this at a checkpoints I drive through every week - Can't say as I care much for that either, but as long as they don't engage in such patent nonsense as TSA's HUGE litany of silly measures I won't actually complain about it. As far as I'm concerned, the complacent acceptance of the TSA's rules by the flying public (myself included) for the sake of their convenience is a very bad sign.

[nevada]

The local news has already shown that anyone can get into the back door of the airport with unscreened packages and get up to any airplane they want. Meanwhile screeners are making kids and old people cry, denying soldiers their flights, sexualy abusing people and having all the innocent ones arrested if they protest the gropeing. Sorry, to hell with them.

[SCGrotz]

I got a better story...

a 7.5 swiss key fob, never loaded with power or primer, just drilled out primer pocket, full of an eyehook and jb weld, and the bullet JB welded in, was taken from my father at california airport security at .."taser point?" idk what you call the brandishing of a taser...

anyway they gave him a hard time and chewed his ass out for having an OBVIOUSLY NON FUNCTIONAL(we give some of these people guns, they effin better well know at LEAST how they work, kinda...) years old round.

apparrantly my dad's keyfob was an "imminent threat" to the safety of the passengers, and they wanted to avoid a "terrifying, and psychologically damaging event" in the air....

he missed his flight.