Perro
04-01-2007, 02:27 PM
for YEARS ive had to fight with people on the internet about "CETME ammunition". When CETME rifles first hit the market, most people thought that they were not chambered for 7.62 NATO ammo. Most people thought that they were chambered for what they called "the CETME round". Many people spewed crap on the internet like "your CETME probably isnt safe to shoot 762 nato in cause it was designed for the CETME round which doesnt recoil as bad".
Ive also heard a bazillion plus people claim that the FR7, FR8, and guardia civil rifles were designed only to shoot "the CETME round", and not 762 NATO. Ive proved that wrong a bunch of times, but it really doesnt matter.
It turns out that "the CETME round" was made for the Modelo B CETME rifle, and it was a light recoiling round made to reduce the recoil of the Modelo B in full auto fire. The Modelo B was outfitted with a special locking piece which allowed it to unlock at the correct time, and coupled with this light shooting ammo, it made for a combination EASY to shoot.
The ammunition in question is called CETME CSP-003 ammunition, and it is in caliber 7,62x51mm but it is not NATO ammo. Some of it is loaded with aluminum inside of the lead bullet to decrease the projectile weight, and some of it is loaded with a plastic core inside of the lead bullet.
this is not standard Santa Barbara Nato ammo, this is CSP-003 also known as "the cetme round". It is plastic cored, and shoots VERY lightly compared to NATO. It might not even cycle your CETME C well, but it does on SOME Modelo Cs if your gun is loose and runs right.
It works flawlessly in your FR7, FR8, or m1916 guardia civil, and is no doubt less punishing than the NATO ammo.
This ammo is made at a few different places - I believe this lot consists mostly of ammo made at the Palencia Spain ammunition factory. and its all dated 27 march 1962
headstamp 7,6 62 p (7.62, 1962 palencia)
i have one box made at Toledo on 14 november 1964 but it is sealed, so no idea on the headstamp.
The boxes will have centurys label on it, and a sales price sticker from a 3rd party vendor on it who was selling it per box - i snapped it up back then from another guy who sold it to me for more than the sales price per individual box. Im sure the labels can be removed pretty easily, the sales price stickers are from a sticker gun. They are in there original Santa Barbara Spain box - marked either Fabrica Del Palencia, or Fabrica Nacional De Toledo.
SOLD TO NALIOTH PENDING TERMS
below will be data sheets on this ammo - also, a page from the color cetme manual describing ammo - you will see on one side it will have nato ammo for the cetme C, and on one side it will have the CSP-003 for the modelo B. If you translate it will explain the WHOLE thing to you, but basically, it tells you that the B used CSP-003 "cetme ammo" with the correct locking piece. I had a photo from one of these rounds disected so you could see the plastic core, but man, i cant seem to find it, and who knows what disk its on.
paypal, money order, check, or well concealed cash accepted.
it will have to ship UPS
Mike
Ive also heard a bazillion plus people claim that the FR7, FR8, and guardia civil rifles were designed only to shoot "the CETME round", and not 762 NATO. Ive proved that wrong a bunch of times, but it really doesnt matter.
It turns out that "the CETME round" was made for the Modelo B CETME rifle, and it was a light recoiling round made to reduce the recoil of the Modelo B in full auto fire. The Modelo B was outfitted with a special locking piece which allowed it to unlock at the correct time, and coupled with this light shooting ammo, it made for a combination EASY to shoot.
The ammunition in question is called CETME CSP-003 ammunition, and it is in caliber 7,62x51mm but it is not NATO ammo. Some of it is loaded with aluminum inside of the lead bullet to decrease the projectile weight, and some of it is loaded with a plastic core inside of the lead bullet.
this is not standard Santa Barbara Nato ammo, this is CSP-003 also known as "the cetme round". It is plastic cored, and shoots VERY lightly compared to NATO. It might not even cycle your CETME C well, but it does on SOME Modelo Cs if your gun is loose and runs right.
It works flawlessly in your FR7, FR8, or m1916 guardia civil, and is no doubt less punishing than the NATO ammo.
This ammo is made at a few different places - I believe this lot consists mostly of ammo made at the Palencia Spain ammunition factory. and its all dated 27 march 1962
headstamp 7,6 62 p (7.62, 1962 palencia)
i have one box made at Toledo on 14 november 1964 but it is sealed, so no idea on the headstamp.
The boxes will have centurys label on it, and a sales price sticker from a 3rd party vendor on it who was selling it per box - i snapped it up back then from another guy who sold it to me for more than the sales price per individual box. Im sure the labels can be removed pretty easily, the sales price stickers are from a sticker gun. They are in there original Santa Barbara Spain box - marked either Fabrica Del Palencia, or Fabrica Nacional De Toledo.
SOLD TO NALIOTH PENDING TERMS
below will be data sheets on this ammo - also, a page from the color cetme manual describing ammo - you will see on one side it will have nato ammo for the cetme C, and on one side it will have the CSP-003 for the modelo B. If you translate it will explain the WHOLE thing to you, but basically, it tells you that the B used CSP-003 "cetme ammo" with the correct locking piece. I had a photo from one of these rounds disected so you could see the plastic core, but man, i cant seem to find it, and who knows what disk its on.
paypal, money order, check, or well concealed cash accepted.
it will have to ship UPS
Mike