My new Nagant 91/30!

[SteelCore]

Hey, finally got my Mosin 91/30 this weekend at Dunham's SG. it is a Tula 1938, so we're talking right b4 the Winter War issue. All matching #s too (bolt, floorplate, bbl, buttplate, the whole thing--cool!) Came with oiler, old screw driver/pin measure tool, cleaning jag and rod tools, sling (black canvas? Izzat accurate?), newer cartrige pouch, and an awesome long-arsed bayonet! Once ya put it all together, the whole thing is like 5'5" tall! It is like a freakin' pike that goes bang!

Anyhow, starting the cleaning process on it. The bbl look good, but I'm sure I can get some copper out of it that will really crisp up the lands/grooves...there is plenty of good rifling in there.

Anyhow, it is my second Mosin...other is a 1944 Izhvesk M-44...these mosins are addictive, and it rubs off onto others quite easiy.

A note on Dunham's---WOW! They had Steyr bolt actions, some lee-enfield mk1, romy AKs, K31, mosin M44 and 91/30, m1 carbine, Carcano, Yugo AK underfolder, all sortsa stuff! for a small gun counter, they sure stocked it deep with milsurps. I was duly impressed.

[omerta123]

wheres teh this thread is useless without pics smilies?

[k98k792]

Congrats Bro! You gettin the Mosin bug?

[nevada]

91/30s are neat, and very accurate. At least mine is. Every milsurp I've bought will out shoot my 'new' mini-14. If I can hit a 5 gallon bucket at 100 yards (with my bad eyes) the rifle is good. That goes for my 1918 SMLE and its 60+ year old ammo, too. Enjoy yours and as planning says: "Buy ammo". the prices keep creeping up.

[SteelCore]

Yeah, ever since I got comfy with the Izhie M-44, I've been buying more of those cheep 76254R rounds, and I just knew I'd have to buy one of the other many Mosin Nagant variants. Nuthin too rare, mind you, just dufferent.

Once you get the Izhvesk, you then know you gotta get the Tula. (and so on...SA-marked Finns, US or other baltic maker, etc)

Once you get the M-44, you know you need the 91/30 (m-38, and so on...)

I might track me down an ex-sniper next.

[derghost]

Once you get a Finn there will be no stopping the addiction. I thought I had it under control until a got a Finn 28-30. I now have 17 Mosin Nagants and plan to pick up another Finn this weekend.

[Optimus Prime]

I think all I'm missing is the Tula...

[turbothis]

does dunhams have a website?

[Optimus Prime]

They don't list guns on it... and it seems like all the stores have different stuff anyway.

[SteelCore]

Oh, yeah! I'd love to get a 1930's issue Finn.

Don't the Finns run a little higher in price?

I'm still pulling copper and powdr outta the bbl of the 91/30, but I can already tell the bbl is in even better shape than the one on my M-44! The steel coil brush slides much easier, the bbl was looking kinda dark but is was just deposits...it is brightening up quick!

I've been doing the application of copper solvent, brush, then patch with solvent, repeat, for a few hrs, then CLP the bbl overnight. when I come back the next day, the CLP has loosened a bunch more crud, then I repeat the cleaning. the M-44 took a LOT of cleaning, but it was worth it...as the copper came out, the accuracy came up. W@ith any luck, I'll make it ot a rande in the next weekend or 2...spposed to get a warm up a bit here.

[CETME .308]

Yeah, I was bit by the Mosin bug too.
I picked up a M-44 Izzy two weeks ago.
Wood in great condition, numbers match, clean bore, goes BANG!!

Now what next........hmmmm:scarface: maybe the 91/38

[SteelCore]

are fun! I got a good column of flame shooting some bulgy ammo thru the M-44.

When I got mine, it was force matched, but the 91/30 I have is all matching. I think that alone will make it a good shooter, and seems like the crisper rifling, longer sight radius and longer bbl will also contribute to the accuracy.

So, CETME .308, lemme kow whoe that 91/38 is when you get it. I'm thinking I need my next mosin to be a non-russian makde one, or a dragoon model, or aybe I'll try for one with a hex receiver...

With how cheap these puppys are, I can sorta call meself a 'low-end milsurp collector" now (I guess)

[tomoshenko]

are fun! I got a good column of flame shooting some bulgy ammo thru the M-44.

When I got mine, it was force matched, but the 91/30 I have is all matching. I think that alone will make it a good shooter, and seems like the crisper rifling, longer sight radius and longer bbl will also contribute to the accuracy.

So, CETME .308, lemme kow whoe that 91/38 is when you get it. I'm thinking I need my next mosin to be a non-russian makde one, or a dragoon model, or aybe I'll try for one with a hex receiver...

With how cheap these puppys are, I can sorta call meself a 'low-end milsurp collector" now (I guess)
I'm going to be testing my latest 91/30 with a Huber Concepts trigger this
weekend. It too is all matching with a sweet bore.
I love shooting these rifles!

[Planning]

buy as many of these rifles Mosin nagants as you can afford, they are in really nice shape, plentiful, and the price is right on them. ( they will be good for trading later)
the last batch (m-44's and m-91/30's) that came in was in late sept. 2006, so i look for the wholesale price creep to start soon as the start to get low on inventory.
the cost of shipping has started running the price up on them.
there are plenty of m-44 rifles, the m-91/30 inventories are starting to get lower for a few of the wholesalers and the inventory of the m-38 is real low or sold out for most of the wholesalers.
i see the wholesale price on the m-91/30's and the m-44's to be well over $100 by the end of the year. and the laminates and special marked ones well over $150.

this is kinda like the k-31's, you could get real nice ones wholesale last year for under $100 ,now the same rifle will run you over $175 if you can find one.
i have been looking for a few really nice one for customers and not having much luck with it.
the real nice yugo sks are running out and the price is getting up there on them. even the shoot grade price has gone up a bunch in the last few weeks.

don't forget to buy ammo

[okie shooter]

I havent goten the big bug for these, but being on the boards convinced me to get a couple. They are a great deal for the price. I think you will get more than one eventually. Btw where are the pictures.

[my-rifle]

I don't know about CLP specifically, but most aggressive bore cleaners like sweets 762 say to not leave them soaking for more than 15 minutes, and that's probably good advice. I used to think that if it was turning blue it was getting copper out of the bore. Now I've come to realize that steel turns it blue as well...

[SteelCore]

CLP is a one stop shop: Cleans Lubes, Protects. Approved for use in US army, it is the one they use. Bottle/can actually tells you to leave really cruddy part in it overnight to soak. I cleaned the bbl initially, then let it soak, and it looked kinds clean.. then enxt day, there was more black gunk that the CLP worked loose.

ANy of the bore solvent products for copper and lead fouling are pretty corrosive, and will etch a bbl if left in too long...you have to follow their instructions to the letter, or you will frost your bore.

I use Pro-shots 762 copper solvent....not too smelly.

I've also found that for tough to get crud, it is sometimes a good thing to put some rounds down the tube, then bust out the cleaning kit and clean between shootings. the heat/pressure and friction seem to blow some gunk out, and loosen some other stuff that is caked in the bbl. with my 91/30, I was having no probs getting the solvent and CLP to clean up the grooves in the muzzle and and the breach end, but could not get the center 5 innches to clean up right. I took it to the range, this weekend (see report) and was able to shoot most of that other crud out, then clean it, then shoot some more. You could tell there was 70 yrs of crud in there.

[Jacobite]

We got 4 of the refurbed 91/30's one year. I have only put the Albanian ammo thru them but past 50 yards ours are not very accurate. I guess I could hit a man but that is about it. I do wish I could do better with it as I like the feel of it. The trigger sux though.

[tomoshenko]

We got 4 of the refurbed 91/30's one year. I have only put the Albanian ammo thru them but past 50 yards ours are not very accurate. I guess I could hit a man but that is about it. I do wish I could do better with it as I like the feel of it. The trigger sux though.
I have found that the czech silver tip with the green lacquerd steel case gives by far the best accuracy. I can get 10 shot, 5" groups at 150 yds with the irons, a Huber concepts trigger with a light break-off and my aged 55 year old eyes. I'm sure someone with better eyes could shrink that group quite a bit.

[nalioth]

This thread is missing something . . . .


AH, here it is:


:ttiwwop:

[tomoshenko]

This thread is missing something . . . .


AH, here it is:


:ttiwwop:
Who would want to see a picture of 55 year old eyes surounded by wrinkles
and sagging , overstuffed jowls???? Get a picture of Ted Kennedy! :=)

[Seattlefungus]

I just sold a M38 to a collector in Wyoming. He took it out and from the bench hit consistently at 300, then 500 so he tried the 700 target. Got it twice before the wind picked up

:clapping: :kid: enough eyecandy for you Tomo?:America:

[tomoshenko]

Nice Pics and a beautiful specimen. At 700 I dont think I could even see the target any more! I'll have to get a camera as soon as soon as the bank account reloads after paying for that new PTR on order, the Hensoldt from Dan's and those 3 cases of Czech silvertip from Century...

[SteelCore]

with a carbine even! I can't wait to put mine to the test at 300 (that'll be about my long range with Irons, since a bowling pin looks like a a small spot o bird crap at that distace.

"ours are not very accurate. I guess I could hit a man but that is about it. I do wish I could do better with it as I like the feel of it. The trigger sux though."
-->Keep with it tho, man! I read in a book on WWII that the Mosin had the longest trining cycle of any russian/soviet rifle, since it was so brutal and had that crappy trigger. It took me 100+rounds in 3 trips the range to just 'let go' and not anticipate the shot, or jiggle the rifle. Just let it surprise you, pull slow and even, and you will be surprised how freakin accurate it is.

Oh, and check to make sure the top screw back by the bolt is totally tightened. My M-44 ha a bad habit of coming liise back there, and groups go to shite when the acction can move in the stock.

[Private Fuzzy]

I just sold a M38 to a collector in Wyoming. He took it out and from the bench hit consistently at 300, then 500 so he tried the 700 target. Got it twice before the wind picked up

:clapping: :kid: enough eyecandy for you Tomo?:America:

Wow, the grain on that stock is down-right orgasmic.:jumping:

[my-rifle]

Gotta get a laminate M44. Those things give me a hard-on.

I'm starting to want to get one of those Styre M95 rifles everyone is selling. The ones available, though are all carbines, and from everything I'm seeing on the reference boards these are all actually M95/30's, not M95's. What's the skinny on this? Are these actually pre-1900 M95's?