TAPCO G2 Double/Single hook triggers

[snapshot762]

I am looking into a G2 trigger from TAPCO to get rid of the standard trigger slap from my WASR-10. Is there a difference in performance between the double hook and single hook models? Is it worth it to do the mods for the double hook trigger or will the single hook be OK without sacrificing performance?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[okie shooter]

Not sure why some of the countries picked single hooks and other double. They both should work fine the double giving you two ways to ensure that the hammer is held back. I think the double might be from the days of full auto fcgs, thus two is better than one. If its a wasr, maybe more work on other parts of the rifle would be better than opening up the receiver for the double hook, it can be done but in the end you still have a wasr which was made for a single hook.

BTW hae you looked into the linx310 fixes for the romaninan stock fcg problems. You might try those before a new fcg. All you can be out is putting in a new fcg anyway.

[nalioth]

The original model AK-47 had a double hook trigger. Upon finding after much use in the field that the trigger never broke, the Soviets went to the single hook trigger in the AKM.

You can use whatever floats your boat. Some people say the double hook trigger has a better "feel". Some prefer the single hook trigger because 'there is less friction on the parts".

I've got both, the :ak: all :g3: :sterb126: :2pistol: :gang1: :machinegun: and an AK ain't nowhere near a target rifle.

[turbothis]

i just gring off some of the top of the trigger so the bolt does not contact it.

[Rampager]

I used the Tapco G2 trigger group with OOW receivers on 2 of my builds. I ended up having to grind down the tops of my hammers to keep the bolt from catching on them. Other than that, they worked great.

[snapshot762]

If its a wasr, maybe more work on other parts of the rifle would be better than opening up the receiver for the double hook, it can be done but in the end you still have a wasr which was made for a single hook.

BTW have you looked into the linx310 fixes for the romaninan stock fcg problems. You might try those before a new fcg. All you can be out is putting in a new fcg anyway.

Yeah, i looked at linx310 fixes, I think that i'll opt for the single hook G2 trigger and the pin retaining plate that TAPCO sells. I was mainly wanting to know if there was a major difference in performance between the double hook and single hook models, doesn't sound like there is. If not, i can't really see any reason to cut a slot ( not a big deal, i know) in my reciever when a single hook model will work just as well.

As far as fixing the other parts of my WASR, other than furniture, i don't really see the need. I guess i lucked out, straigt FSB and gas tube, shoots great other than the damn trigger slap.

[okie shooter]

snapshot7.62, have some one here post the trigger pin retaining plate dimensions, you can make one at home easly if you have the pattern, and save a few bucks if you are interested. As for the slap, I live with mine, I guess if I want smooth, I can get out the Maadis, or the Mak-90, I got my two wasrs due to the one having a bayonet lug and the other having a folder.

[snapshot762]

Thanks okie shooter, but i've already got an order in with TAPCO.

[texlurch]

Dbl versus single, I think it was for better hammer control in a FA gun, plus in a pinch if one hook breaks, you still have a working weapon. It also holds the hammer evenly, so you get a little less wear on the sides of the pin. Not really an issue in a civvy semi version.

The single hook can be polished and tweaked to a better "feel", simply because you have a little less friction to deal with.

[cetme]

single hooks are fine for semi's. The 3 parts I think all AK's should get are

G-2 trigger
kreb's retainer plate
good flash suppresor

[SSwee]

single hooks are fine for semi's. The 3 parts I think all AK's should get are

G-2 trigger
kreb's retainer plate
good flash suppresor

What is the kreb's retainer plate and where do you find them?
SS

[nalioth]

What is the kreb's retainer plate and where do you find them?
SS

I'ts a .50 cent piece of tin, sold for $12.99 to $19.99
Redstar Arms makes them, and Krebs and lot of other outlets sell them.

http://www.redstararms.com/497.htm

http://www.redstararms.com/crook2.jpg

[Shovelheadfxwg]

I have built a dozen or more AKs, and have used both single hook and double hook. I doubt that you would really even notice the difference. Unless you have one of each and shoot one, then shoot the other right together. I have done this and it was still hard to tell a difference. Maybe a slightly lighter pull on single hook, but that could be in my head just because I'm assume it had less friction. I have never had to grind any of them for hammer to bolt clearance.

[SSwee]

Thanks for the info nalioth. I still want to get with you to do the rivets on the Yugo but finding time has been a PIA. Also waiting on a second AK to get here.
SS

[Shovelheadfxwg]

By the way, most trigger slap is caused by the disconnector. When the hammer slams back and clips the disconnector it gives a thump felt at the trigger. If you really study how the disconnector works in relation to the trigger and the hammer, you can possibly do a little work to the disconnector and stop it also. Changing the top angle of the disconnector may help some or even eliminate it.
Some disconnectors are such a mis-match that you will never be able to fix them. Never noticed any slap with any of the Tapco sets.

[rpmfly2]

I used the Tapco G2 trigger group with OOW receivers on 2 of my builds. I ended up having to grind down the tops of my hammers to keep the bolt from catching on them. Other than that, they worked great.

Polished mine down also to get rid of the problem and works great!

[amd65]

I like the double hook, and have used them in my builds. I also use a dremel polish wheel and flitz polish on the hooks and the hammer sear are, and that makes for a smooth pull.
I never grind or do anything to the hammer. Yes, it may hang up at first, but that is an issue only in hand cycling, not firing. After shooting them for a while, the hand cycling hang up goes away.
I don't care for the retainer plate. The shepherd hook modified for semi use works great, and E-clips work great as well. I use E-clips. They are cheap and available at the hardware store for a few pennies.

[snapshot762]

I just got the parts from TAPCO installed, and WOW! A total night and day difference. I was completely surprised at how nice the trigger is now. Can't wait to try it out!

A big thanks to all for the advice.

[okie shooter]

Snapshot762, make sure you hold on to the fcg in your rifle that you took out, if its century made ( you can see the little "c" stamped on the parts) they are us made, not as nice as the g-2, fse or redstar sets, but still compliance parts.

[SteelCore]

but what is an E-clip?

thx,

--Steely

[okie shooter]

but what is an E-clip?

thx,

--Steely

They are small steel "E" shaped clips intended to replace the shepards crook to hold in the axis pins on your ak, you use them on the inside of the receiver cliped to the recess of the axis pin, just like a retainer plate would fit too.

[Fido Dog]

SSWEE!!!

There are some E-clips in the parts I sent you. I forgot.