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    Body found after 12 killed in northern England shooting spree

    London, England (CNN) -- At least 12 people have been killed and 25 injured after a gunman -- believed to be a local taxi driver -- went on a shooting spree through three small towns in the English county of Cumbria on Wednesday.
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe...pt=T1&iref=BN1



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    England's gun ban doesn't seem to prevent gun related crimes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noskov View Post
    England's gun ban doesn't seem to prevent gun related crimes...
    No but firearm-related crimes are VERY low there. The flipside though, is that stabbing and blade-related crimes are high.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6960431.stm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Povo View Post
    No but firearm-related crimes are VERY low there. The flipside though, is that stabbing and blade-related crimes are high.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6960431.stm

    Banning legal firearm ownership just leads to criminals using other weapons.
    True but it feels like maybe they were hoping it would have stopped it all together. I'm probably wrong because I don't know what England's crime rate was like before their ban. Since their stabbing related crimes are higher they don't seem to be keen on doing a knife ban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Povo View Post
    No but firearm-related crimes are VERY low there. The flipside though, is that stabbing and blade-related crimes are high.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6960431.stm

    Banning legal firearm ownership just leads to criminals using other weapons.
    legally defending themselves with legal firearms! Don't forget to stand up for worthless criminals rights!
    We have never needed any new laws to govern decent law abiding citizens!

    Just to enforce the old laws on the NEW ARRIVALS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noskov View Post
    True but it feels like maybe they were hoping it would have stopped it all together. I'm probably wrong because I don't know what England's crime rate was like before their ban. Since their stabbing related crimes are higher they don't seem to be keen on doing a knife ban.
    Don't laugh but there was serious discussion under Thatcher and Blair to ban some knives!

    I agree that the UK is a good example of the unintended negative consequences of restricting legal firearm ownership.
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    Their officers wear stab vests instead the bulletproof vests like ours do.
    I remembered getting a lecture on why I should not carry a pocket knife, how it was a dangerous weapon and having it taken away all 30m from leaving the UK boarders.
    customs lady- "Sir, where are you from?"
    me- "The US"
    customs lady- "Do they allow you carry dangerous weapons as such in the streets in the US?"
    me- "Miss, I can carry a pistol on me in Texas if I want to"
    They also have a tendency to ban things in response to threats... after a few rubbish bin bomb threats they took them all out of London. Now crap just piles up in street corners.

    Then they had the bomb scare at luggage deposits and they don't have those at railway stations anymore(you have to pay WAYYYYYY more than other countries because they actually have people storing it away and such).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Povo View Post
    Don't laugh but there was serious discussion under Thatcher and Blair to ban some knives!

    I agree that the UK is a good example of the unintended negative consequences of restricting legal firearm ownership.
    Wow, now that is a crazy response. So do butchers need to get a knife license if that ban were ever to pass? I can't believe the British would categorize a butter knife alongside the likes of assault rifles.

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    When I was there the gangs of thugs would push people down onto the subway tracks and not let them back up until they gave up their money.

    And the ban was on "pointy" knives, especially for teens.
    Some people are like a slinky...

    Not really good for anything, but fun to push down the stairs.

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    Just remember that it was one of our esteemed and illustrious liberal congressmen a few years back that wanted to do away with the slot or pin on a knife that would facilitate opening it with one hand… he saw no reason for such a device. Probably didn’t like bayonet lugs either. When was the last bayonet charge by the way?
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