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    922r compliance and the CETME/HK91

    According to:
    http://frwebgate3.access.gpo.gov/cgi...ction=retrieve

    [Code of Federal Regulations]
    [Title 27, Volume 2]
    [Revised as of April 1, 2003]
    From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
    [CITE: 27CFR478]

    [Page 101-169]

    TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND FIREARMS

    CHAPTER II--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES,
    DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

    PART 478--COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION

    on page 119....

    [T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10494, Mar. 31, 1988]

    Sec. 478.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.

    (a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun
    using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this
    section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under
    section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily
    adaptable to sporting purposes.
    (b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:
    (1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution
    by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or
    agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political
    subdivision thereof; or
    (2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of
    testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the
    provisions of Sec. 478.151; or
    (3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported into
    or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the
    replacement of any part of such firearm.
    (c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts are:
    (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
    (2) Barrels
    (3) Barrel extensions
    (4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
    (5) Muzzle attachments
    (6) Bolts
    (7) Bolt carriers
    (8) Operating rods
    (9) Gas pistons
    (10) Trigger housings
    (11) Triggers
    (12) Hammers
    (13) Sears
    (14) Disconnectors
    (15) Buttstocks
    (16) Pistol grips
    (17) Forearms, handguards
    (18) Magazine bodies
    (19) Followers
    (20) Floorplates


    What this means is that your rifle
    !!CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN 10 IMPORTED PARTS ON THAT LIST!!

    The parts on the list pertaining to the CETME or HK91 style of rifle are as follows:
    (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
    (2) Barrels
    (4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
    (5) Muzzle attachments (flash hiders or muzzle breaks)
    (6) Bolts
    (7) Bolt carriers
    (8) Operating rods (charging handle)
    (10) Trigger housings (FCG cage)
    (11) Triggers
    (12) Hammers
    (13) Sears
    (15) Buttstocks
    (16) Pistol grips
    (17) Forearms, handguards
    (18) Magazine bodies
    (19) Followers
    (20) Floorplates

    That makes 17 compliance parts. If you cannot have more that 10 IMPORTED parts in your rifle, then you must replace 7 of the above parts with US made replacements. (6 replacement parts if your barrel was cut and no muzzle attachment was added)

    Most rifles from Century at a minimum have US made Muzzle breaks, Receivers, Charging handles, Pistol Grips and Hammers. This accounts for 5 of the compliance parts.

    In order to reach the required limit of 10 imported parts Century replaced other rifle parts as well.

    If the rifle ORIGINALLY came with wood handguards and buttstocks, then the following US made parts should be installed:
    Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
    Muzzle attachments (flash hiders or muzzle breaks)
    Operating rods (charging handle)
    Triggers
    Hammers
    Sears
    Pistol grips


    If your rifle came with the crappy black plastic buttstock and handguard, then these US made parts were installed:
    Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
    Muzzle attachments (flash hiders or muzzle breaks)
    Operating rods (charging handle)
    Hammers
    Pistol grips
    Buttstocks
    Forearms, handguards


    On some of the latest CETME rifles from Century, (Limited Edition)the wood furniture was kept, and the stock Flash hider was used as well. These rifles were shipped with magazines containing US made followers or floorplates, and only magazines with US compliance parts in them can legally be used with these rifles without replacing something else on the list with a US made part.
    Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
    Operating rods (charging handle)
    Triggers
    Hammers
    Sears
    Pistol grips
    Magazine Followers or Floorplates


    Some Century rifles were shipped with US made replacement barrels and not every configuration is listed here.

    Following will be a post with photos to help identify if your parts are US made or imported.

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    I keep reading and this build gets easier to understand.

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    Just giving the thread a little boost. I am wanting to thread my barrel and put on what appears to be CETME surplus flash hider on my weapon but I need figure out which parts are or aren't US made.

    CAI build with the retarded plastic buttstock and fore arm. I know it states which parts SHOULD be US made but how do I know for sure???

    If you get some pictures up that would be great or know of a site which I could go to find out by pictures or markings if it is US or non-US. Thanks.

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    sometimes the parts have a little "C" stamped on them, this means they are US made. My hammer, trigger, and sear/disconnector all have C's stamped on them. My charging handle does not, but it is shaped differently than the spanish one. now if i can find my damn camera...

    i would recommend that you use on of SSwee's US made FH's, so you can skip the hassle of swapping out parts altogether. That's what I did. well worth the money, and they look authentic

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    ok cool, my charging handle, hammer have it, i am pretty sure my trigger says it somewhere since it is an exact color match to hammer. Not sure what an american made barrel is marked either. Mine has RK 1 and 76 with something else on it but i can't make it out due to the coating.

    Thanks for the help, at least i know some stuff are US.

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    If its a Century gun, its compliant from the factory until somebody modifies something (usually stocks or FH)
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    I have a question. Just to play devi's advocate I guess, but when does the parts compliance become a problem? When you want to sell the firearm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuttyLT View Post
    I have a question. Just to play devi's advocate I guess, but when does the parts compliance become a problem? When you want to sell the firearm?
    The compliance issue, really is only in play when you piss some one off, and they are looking to nail you, otherwise its like speeding when you dont get caught. I have seen rifles out of compliance at gun shows on tables in one form or another, dealers rarely know anything about compliance or really care. Thus its up to you to keep your rifle in the "right" by meeting compliance.

    Why risk any of the results of a rifle out of compliance when its so easy to keep one in compliance.
    Still building bigger and better bombs for your brighter tommrows(aw heck and takeing them apart and demilling them for that tommrow too)

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    Agreed, I was just curious if maybe it was different elsewhere in the country as far as people "taking notice"
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    Quote Originally Posted by leonidas View Post
    Just giving the thread a little boost. I am wanting to thread my barrel and put on what appears to be CETME surplus flash hider on my weapon but I need figure out which parts are or aren't US made.

    CAI build with the retarded plastic buttstock and fore arm. I know it states which parts SHOULD be US made but how do I know for sure???

    If you get some pictures up that would be great or know of a site which I could go to find out by pictures or markings if it is US or non-US. Thanks.
    You just need to use a US flash hider.

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