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    Pretty much what I though, and it would be silly to even chance it. sbr seems to be the way to go

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    The important thing to look at in almost analysis is what the legal restriction is. Note that the restrictions apply to firearms. The firearm has traditionally been determined to be the receiver (varies by gun sure) which for an AR is a lower receiver. As the receiver is a firearm even when stripped of all its controls, and has abarrel when the parts are mated together, the BCG should have no impact on whether the "firearm" has a barrel of a specific length.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma Nostra View Post
    The important thing to look at in almost analysis is what the legal restriction is. Note that the restrictions apply to firearms. The firearm has traditionally been determined to be the receiver (varies by gun sure) which for an AR is a lower receiver. As the receiver is a firearm even when stripped of all its controls, and has abarrel when the parts are mated together, the BCG should have no impact on whether the "firearm" has a barrel of a specific length.
    Although the OP has the right answer, FYI: The ATF method of measuring a barrel on an SBR is from a closed bolt, so the BCG does impact the barrel length. Barrels are measured by inserting a dowel rod into the barrel until the rod stops against the bolt or breech-face. The rod is then marked at the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device, withdrawn from the barrel, and measured.
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    Arkane, a fair point. However I sincerely doubt as a practical matter that simply leaving the bolt out for a test of barrel length would be how the rule and procedure was applied in this case. But hey, it's the ATF, you really never know how they will react to novel situations. I'm still surprised at the pistol brace rulings.
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    The OP stated that it was a pistol upper. Which is a barrel shorter than 16". Why are we discussing how to measure a barrel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milsurp View Post
    The OP stated that it was a pistol upper. Which is a barrel shorter than 16". Why are we discussing how to measure a barrel?
    Because there is absolutely no differentiation between a "pistol upper" and SBR upper when they are not attached to a lower. The sole characteristic of an upper that makes it either is the length of the barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma Nostra View Post
    . But hey, it's the ATF, you really never know how they will react to novel situations. I'm still surprised at the pistol brace rulings.
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