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Thread: M 16 in Soviet service 1980's ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghoulardi View Post
    only weapons I have seen pictures of early at the start of the afgan war was Enfields and some flint lock rifles and other old weapons. which the afgans used to success to get AKs, PKMs, RPGs etc...and other soviet weapons
    I remember seeing some Khyber Pass made AK47s early on before we (and others) started supplying arms to them. Due to limited arms supply at time they were pretty expensive.
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    Not M 1 Carbine, FAL or SKS I was looking for, but still a little out of the ordinary
    Soviet troop with HK.jpg

    Soviet troop with G 3.jpg
    The other side of the coin look at Ringo's rifle
    Afghan rebel with G3.jpg

    afghanistan-war- G3.jpg
    We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union

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    In 3rd picture down, the guy bottom row in the middle looks like an SKS? Another guy bottom row on the right has a german G3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luigi View Post
    Norton

    In 3rd picture down, the guy bottom row in the middle looks like an SKS?
    Great eyes it looks like a SKS folding bayonet and sight protector from the wide sling up.
    The Soviet supplied them to the pre-war army
    We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union

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    Looks like two SKS in the picture.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fal_762x51 View Post
    Looks like two SKS in the picture.
    Yes Bonus SKS top row 2nd from the left
    We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghoulardi View Post
    I have no doubt that the biggest supply of M16s and a whole lot of other US weapons/equipment came from Viet-Nam.

    if the year is correct, 1978, that is only 3 years after the fall of Saigon
    I have thought about this point and wondered if we are looking at Soviet owned rifles
    Sent by the Soviet Army for testing from their own stockpile obtained from North Vietnam in 1975/76
    Not CIA/Western powers supplied M 16 captured from the Afghan rebels .

    Soviet M 16 Color.jpg
    Maybe he did not capture this rifle, maybe it was his all along
    Soviet M 16 Shades.jpg
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    We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union

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    I did several tours in Afghanistan early on and never saw anything other than what has already been mentioned. Mostly AK's but Enfields could be seen from time to time in more remote areas but they were not interested in our weapons as it was a supply problem, parts, ammo etc

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    Very interesting and cool!

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    Sort of fits in with the thread
    April 1975, Obviously not Soviets, but if you look you will see most have the same weapon. Interesting commentary,
    More than likely they would have already been issued a superb rifle and for what ever the reason exchanged them for the M 16



    The Fall of Saigon, 1975 M16 NVA (6).jpg
    We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union

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