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    Mossberg already has it released, they call it the "Shockwave". https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/ Only real problem I see with the Mossberg's is they are 12 gauge ONLY.

    Here's a letter Mossberg got from ATF explaining the classification: https://www.mossberg.com/wp-content/...ATF-3-2-17.pdf

    Remington's is called the "870-TAC-14" and the base model of it is offered in 12 and 20. https://www.remington.com/other-prod...del-870-tac-14

    Edit: And with both the Rem and Moss, you have to drop extra cash on the upgraded models before you get any kind of a light mounting rail from the factory, which is not even in the convenient spot of the forearm like the Charels Daly. Remington's upgraded model is not offered in 20 ga. Rem and Moss have some work to do in the feature dept.

    Edit 2: If you go with the 12 ga Rem or Moss, in theory the Stream light TL racker-forend should fit those.
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    KRATARC archery quiver on Amazon fits the firearm perfectly, with the light attached:

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    don't call this a shotgun either.
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    Those aren't shotguns.... They are room brooms..... Either for cleaning up or making a mess, but definitely for getting control of the situation quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The War Wagon View Post
    I've seen those around for a while now - I just can't fathom a DECENT 12 gauge round in one those, that wouldn't cause the recoiling barrel to break my nose...
    I got the bright idea a few years ago to replace the buttstock on my 12 GA 870 with a pistol grip. After test firing at the range I put the stock back on! Too old and weak I guess.

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    I load my Mossberg Shokwave >>>>>>12 gauge<<<<<< with Mini-Buck......perfect combination...effective and not wimpy...

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    I picked up one of those Hawk whatever a couple of years ago and loaded it with 3"..... After 5 rounds I took it home cleaned it well and have not touched it since. I can't imagine that bucking bugger with a pistol grip... There's a Mossy 500 with PG back there I've never fired and never shall.... Perhaps 30yrs. ago I'd be more than game to ride those broncs all day, but not now. Recoil is murder on me these days.

    Some buckshot here to that'll corrode before I shoot any, but I'll talk it up a storm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvera View Post
    I load my Mossberg Shokwave >>>>>>12 gauge<<<<<< with Mini-Buck......perfect combination...effective and not wimpy...

    …..wimpers….stop crying
    Silvera,

    HA HA. I have nerve damage in my right hand and limited use. I am almost 70 so I guess you can call me an "old damaged " wimp!:

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    That's why I got the 20 gauge, and have it loaded with 7.5 target loads.

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    I don't know that Mossberg has much catching up do. The 12ga came out in 2017, the 20ga was intro'd in 2018 and the 410 this year. They do cost more than the CD guns, but they are being made.
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