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    Krags in Wehrmacht: WW2

    So, I'm sitting here watching Hogan's Hero's. The scam has a truck crashing the gate. Interestingly, all the guards behind the barricade are holding Krags. So, was the prop person stupid or well versed in history? The Germans were well known for using what they captured. Browning Hi-Powers from FN, Polish Vis 35's, etc. Any evidence what they captured in Norway was spread around for non front line use?

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    never go by what type of rifle they use in a TV series or movie as a indication that what they really used in a war/conflict whatever. don't scrutinize it just enjoy the series or movie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghoulardi View Post
    never go by what type of rifle they use in a TV series or movie as a indication that what they really used in a war/conflict whatever. don't scrutinize it just enjoy the series or movie
    yes, I get that. sort of why I asked. has anyone seen a Krag with German markings that might have been used by a POW guard?

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    Nazi-Occupation "Stomperud" Krag Rifle





    This lends some credence that they might have been issued to guards at camps and such.

    While information on the Wehrmacht's use of the Krag–Jørgensen is hard to find, it is assumed that it was issued primarily to second line units since the Wehrmacht attempted to only issue firearms in standard calibres to front line troops. It was also issued to the Hird—the armed part of Nasjonal Samling (NS) ("National Unity"), the national-socialist party of Vidkun Quisling's puppet government. It is further likely that the experiments with 7.92 mm ammunition means that the Germans considered a wider use of the Krag–Jørgensen.
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    Thanks Scott. That changes my vote from stupid to learned for the props person. It's also a sad comment of the quality of TV viewing choices in my neighborhood lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don in IA View Post
    Thanks Scott. That changes my vote from stupid to learned for the props person. It's also a sad comment of the quality of TV viewing choices in my neighborhood lol!
    You are welcome Don! Nothing wrong with Hogan's Hero's. Lol
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    Very cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don in IA View Post
    Thanks Scott. That changes my vote from stupid to learned for the props person. It's also a sad comment of the quality of TV viewing choices in my neighborhood lol!
    Dont know why it was decided to issue the camp guards Krags on Hogan's Hero's but the prop department could've made an effort to hunt up some Norwegian Krags to at least make an attempt at being historically accurate. If you look close at the one Schultz carries you'll see that it's actually a U.S. M1898 Springfield Krag. Pretty sure none of those ever fell into German hands.
    For the most part low budget1950's-60's era military/western themed TV shows and movies arent known for their historical accuracy when it comes to weaponary. Seen several war movies were the Japanese soldiers were carrying Lee Enfield No.1's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Has Been View Post
    Dont know why it was decided to issue the camp guards Krags on Hogan's Hero's but the prop department could've made an effort to hunt up some Norwegian Krags to at least make an attempt at being historically accurate. If you look close at the one Schultz carries you'll see that it's actually a U.S. M1898 Springfield Krag. Pretty sure none of those ever fell into German hands.
    For the most part low budget1950's-60's era military/western themed TV shows and movies arent known for their historical accuracy when it comes to weaponary. Seen several war movies were the Japanese soldiers were carrying Lee Enfield No.1's.
    It was 10pm, all the lights were off, eyes still healing from the yanked cataracts, and just grabbing yet another beer, my detailed weapon ID was slipping. But, it's hard to miss that wart magazine sticking out to the side. Since Sgt. Schultz was in charge of the guard crew, he probably had pick of the litter and got the Springfield. Thanks for the positive ID.

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    Stranger things have happened.

    When I lived in Berlin in the 70's lots of Greek and Italian rifle where dug up during street repairs.

    Left over from the last battle.

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